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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;It&#8217;s scandalous for SADC to remain silent on Zimbabwe&#8221;: President Levy Mwanawasa, SADC Chairperson</title>
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		<title>By: Kaluba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaluba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 09:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saw the speech live on TV yesterday. Levy was visibly annoyed with his now well understood &quot;wont take no bullshit stance&quot;.

Mbeki and Mugabe both forget history all too well. To say Lusaka is meddling is spitting on our faces. Thats the same city both men called home not too long ago.

They forget that that Zambia was the OTHER Rhodesia and she too lost lives so Mugabe would be free. Am in my early 30&#039;s but still remember what it feels like to feel the ground shake during an air raids.

To say go away today is to say you went it alone. Stop building castles in the sky. Build schools and hospitals.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;246571&#039;,&#039;Kaluba&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;246571&#039;,&#039;Kaluba&#039;,&#039;Saw the speech live on TV yesterday. Levy was visibly annoyed with his now well understood \&quot;wont take no bullshit stance\&quot;.\r\n\r\nMbeki and Mugabe both forget history all too well. To say Lusaka is meddling is spitting on our faces. Thats the same city both men called home not too long ago.\r\n\r\nThey forget that that Zambia was the OTHER Rhodesia and she too lost lives so Mugabe would be free. Am in my early 30\&#039;s but still remember what it feels like to feel the ground shake during an air raids.\r\n\r\nTo say go away today is to say you went it alone. Stop building castles in the sky. Build schools and hospitals.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saw the speech live on TV yesterday. Levy was visibly annoyed with his now well understood &#8220;wont take no bullshit stance&#8221;.</p>
<p>Mbeki and Mugabe both forget history all too well. To say Lusaka is meddling is spitting on our faces. Thats the same city both men called home not too long ago.</p>
<p>They forget that that Zambia was the OTHER Rhodesia and she too lost lives so Mugabe would be free. Am in my early 30&#8242;s but still remember what it feels like to feel the ground shake during an air raids.</p>
<p>To say go away today is to say you went it alone. Stop building castles in the sky. Build schools and hospitals.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('246571','Kaluba'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('246571','Kaluba','Saw the speech live on TV yesterday. Levy was visibly annoyed with his now well understood \&quot;wont take no bullshit stance\&quot;.\r\n\r\nMbeki and Mugabe both forget history all too well. To say Lusaka is meddling is spitting on our faces. Thats the same city both men called home not too long ago.\r\n\r\nThey forget that that Zambia was the OTHER Rhodesia and she too lost lives so Mugabe would be free. Am in my early 30\'s but still remember what it feels like to feel the ground shake during an air raids.\r\n\r\nTo say go away today is to say you went it alone. Stop building castles in the sky. Build schools and hospitals.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: Mike S, London</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike S, London</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 07:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said. Its good to see that at last there are a few African leaders who are prepared to put countries &amp; their people above the needs of their friends in power. Now its time for some action from SADC.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;246511&#039;,&#039;Mike S, London&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;246511&#039;,&#039;Mike S, London&#039;,&#039;Well said. Its good to see that at last there are a few African leaders who are prepared to put countries &amp; their people above the needs of their friends in power. Now its time for some action from SADC.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said. Its good to see that at last there are a few African leaders who are prepared to put countries &amp; their people above the needs of their friends in power. Now its time for some action from SADC.
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		<title>By: Imani Idani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Imani Idani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 06:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I pity everybody who stands for democracy because the devilish fellows who call themselves liberators will not yield power until the whole region is in turmoil. The stupid liberators will blame everything on the whiteman! But we are now prisoners in our own country!&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;246450&#039;,&#039;Imani Idani&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;246450&#039;,&#039;Imani Idani&#039;,&#039;I pity everybody who stands for democracy because the devilish fellows who call themselves liberators will not yield power until the whole region is in turmoil. The stupid liberators will blame everything on the whiteman! But we are now prisoners in our own country!&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I pity everybody who stands for democracy because the devilish fellows who call themselves liberators will not yield power until the whole region is in turmoil. The stupid liberators will blame everything on the whiteman! But we are now prisoners in our own country!
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		<title>By: Henrik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henrik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 00:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please stay determined like this, Mr. Mwanawasa. Surely Mr. &quot;No crisis&quot; Mbeki will continue with his absurd beating about the bush, so we need someone to stay focused. You should boycot any meeting where Mugabe attends, and break diplomatic connections with his illegitimate rule.

As a non African I still feel ashamed that the world does nothing to help, but maybe it is now time for the MDC to call for full scale UN sanctions and not just the travel bans that lets Mugabe &amp; wife visit Italy. Like the ANC called for sanctions during apartheid.

Life goes on and by tomorrow Zimbabwe will not be breaking news on BBC, Sky and CNN anymore. It will just be &quot;well, that&#039;s Africa, we don&#039;t care, these crazy African people are like that&quot;. I feel so frustrated that I am not able to sleep (2 AM CET) but we haven&#039;t heard anything usefull from MDC other than &quot;we give up&quot;. If I lived in Zimbabwe, today would be the day where I would have decided to leave. 

At the same time I find it very strange that many of my friends from other African countries just shrug their shoulders and say that it is Mugabe&#039;s country because of history. Why do many Africans support a fascist dictator like Mugabe just because he is black and a former liberator? I don&#039;t support the US&#039; abuses of human right in Guantanamo just because the Americans are our friends and liberated us from nazi Germany. 

I don&#039;t get it and on a sad day like today I am so disappointed finding people clinging to &quot;it is Mugabe&#039;s country&quot; - like the majority of its people don&#039;t matter at all. 

Sorry bout the not very constructive comments here, but my heart is bleading and causes the brain to go crazy :-(&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;246295&#039;,&#039;Henrik&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;246295&#039;,&#039;Henrik&#039;,&#039;Please stay determined like this, Mr. Mwanawasa. Surely Mr. \&quot;No crisis\&quot; Mbeki will continue with his absurd beating about the bush, so we need someone to stay focused. You should boycot any meeting where Mugabe attends, and break diplomatic connections with his illegitimate rule.\r\n\r\nAs a non African I still feel ashamed that the world does nothing to help, but maybe it is now time for the MDC to call for full scale UN sanctions and not just the travel bans that lets Mugabe &amp; wife visit Italy. Like the ANC called for sanctions during apartheid.\r\n\r\nLife goes on and by tomorrow Zimbabwe will not be breaking news on BBC, Sky and CNN anymore. It will just be \&quot;well, that\&#039;s Africa, we don\&#039;t care, these crazy African people are like that\&quot;. I feel so frustrated that I am not able to sleep (2 AM CET) but we haven\&#039;t heard anything usefull from MDC other than \&quot;we give up\&quot;. If I lived in Zimbabwe, today would be the day where I would have decided to leave. \r\n\r\nAt the same time I find it very strange that many of my friends from other African countries just shrug their shoulders and say that it is Mugabe\&#039;s country because of history. Why do many Africans support a fascist dictator like Mugabe just because he is black and a former liberator? I don\&#039;t support the US\&#039; abuses of human right in Guantanamo just because the Americans are our friends and liberated us from nazi Germany. \r\n\r\nI don\&#039;t get it and on a sad day like today I am so disappointed finding people clinging to \&quot;it is Mugabe\&#039;s country\&quot; - like the majority of its people don\&#039;t matter at all. \r\n\r\nSorry bout the not very constructive comments here, but my heart is bleading and causes the brain to go crazy :-(&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please stay determined like this, Mr. Mwanawasa. Surely Mr. &#8220;No crisis&#8221; Mbeki will continue with his absurd beating about the bush, so we need someone to stay focused. You should boycot any meeting where Mugabe attends, and break diplomatic connections with his illegitimate rule.</p>
<p>As a non African I still feel ashamed that the world does nothing to help, but maybe it is now time for the MDC to call for full scale UN sanctions and not just the travel bans that lets Mugabe &amp; wife visit Italy. Like the ANC called for sanctions during apartheid.</p>
<p>Life goes on and by tomorrow Zimbabwe will not be breaking news on BBC, Sky and CNN anymore. It will just be &#8220;well, that&#8217;s Africa, we don&#8217;t care, these crazy African people are like that&#8221;. I feel so frustrated that I am not able to sleep (2 AM CET) but we haven&#8217;t heard anything usefull from MDC other than &#8220;we give up&#8221;. If I lived in Zimbabwe, today would be the day where I would have decided to leave. </p>
<p>At the same time I find it very strange that many of my friends from other African countries just shrug their shoulders and say that it is Mugabe&#8217;s country because of history. Why do many Africans support a fascist dictator like Mugabe just because he is black and a former liberator? I don&#8217;t support the US&#8217; abuses of human right in Guantanamo just because the Americans are our friends and liberated us from nazi Germany. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t get it and on a sad day like today I am so disappointed finding people clinging to &#8220;it is Mugabe&#8217;s country&#8221; &#8211; like the majority of its people don&#8217;t matter at all. </p>
<p>Sorry bout the not very constructive comments here, but my heart is bleading and causes the brain to go crazy <img src='http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' />
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('246295','Henrik'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('246295','Henrik','Please stay determined like this, Mr. Mwanawasa. Surely Mr. \&quot;No crisis\&quot; Mbeki will continue with his absurd beating about the bush, so we need someone to stay focused. You should boycot any meeting where Mugabe attends, and break diplomatic connections with his illegitimate rule.\r\n\r\nAs a non African I still feel ashamed that the world does nothing to help, but maybe it is now time for the MDC to call for full scale UN sanctions and not just the travel bans that lets Mugabe &amp;amp; wife visit Italy. Like the ANC called for sanctions during apartheid.\r\n\r\nLife goes on and by tomorrow Zimbabwe will not be breaking news on BBC, Sky and CNN anymore. It will just be \&quot;well, that\'s Africa, we don\'t care, these crazy African people are like that\&quot;. I feel so frustrated that I am not able to sleep (2 AM CET) but we haven\'t heard anything usefull from MDC other than \&quot;we give up\&quot;. If I lived in Zimbabwe, today would be the day where I would have decided to leave. \r\n\r\nAt the same time I find it very strange that many of my friends from other African countries just shrug their shoulders and say that it is Mugabe\'s country because of history. Why do many Africans support a fascist dictator like Mugabe just because he is black and a former liberator? I don\'t support the US\' abuses of human right in Guantanamo just because the Americans are our friends and liberated us from nazi Germany. \r\n\r\nI don\'t get it and on a sad day like today I am so disappointed finding people clinging to \&quot;it is Mugabe\'s country\&quot; - like the majority of its people don\'t matter at all. \r\n\r\nSorry bout the not very constructive comments here, but my heart is bleading and causes the brain to go crazy :-('); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: Michael Hart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Hart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 22:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo President Mwanawasa. I solute you for the courage that you are showing. As a Zambian by birth I am proud that you are our President, taking a lead when others are silent. I pray that our neighbours can be inspired by your leadership and that democracy can be restored in Zimbabwe.

Michael Hart 
Formerly of Chingola now in Ireland&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;246261&#039;,&#039;Michael Hart&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;246261&#039;,&#039;Michael Hart&#039;,&#039;Bravo President Mwanawasa. I solute you for the courage that you are showing. As a Zambian by birth I am proud that you are our President, taking a lead when others are silent. I pray that our neighbours can be inspired by your leadership and that democracy can be restored in Zimbabwe.\r\n\r\nMichael Hart \r\nFormerly of Chingola now in Ireland&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo President Mwanawasa. I solute you for the courage that you are showing. As a Zambian by birth I am proud that you are our President, taking a lead when others are silent. I pray that our neighbours can be inspired by your leadership and that democracy can be restored in Zimbabwe.</p>
<p>Michael Hart<br />
Formerly of Chingola now in Ireland
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		<title>By: Senator David Coltart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Senator David Coltart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 21:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good on you President Mwanawasa. You are doing Africa proud. But now we need firm action from SADC under your leadership Sir!.

Senator David Coltart&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;246190&#039;,&#039;Senator David Coltart&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;246190&#039;,&#039;Senator David Coltart&#039;,&#039;Good on you President Mwanawasa. You are doing Africa proud. But now we need firm action from SADC under your leadership Sir!.\r\n\r\nSenator David Coltart&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good on you President Mwanawasa. You are doing Africa proud. But now we need firm action from SADC under your leadership Sir!.</p>
<p>Senator David Coltart
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		<title>By: David Wheeler</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Wheeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 21:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good on yer, President Mwanawasa
Mugabe has divided Africa into two clear groups - those who believe in democracy and the rule of law, and those who don&#039;t.  We shall remember both.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;246188&#039;,&#039;David Wheeler&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;246188&#039;,&#039;David Wheeler&#039;,&#039;Good on yer, President Mwanawasa\r\nMugabe has divided Africa into two clear groups - those who believe in democracy and the rule of law, and those who don\&#039;t.  We shall remember both.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good on yer, President Mwanawasa<br />
Mugabe has divided Africa into two clear groups &#8211; those who believe in democracy and the rule of law, and those who don&#8217;t.  We shall remember both.
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