Comments on: Politicide Warning: Zimbabwe http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/1096 This is Zimbabwe is Sokwanele's pro-democracy activist blog. It provides grassroots news and views from Zimbabwe. Sat, 22 Nov 2008 06:06:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Sokwanele http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/1096#comment-247550 Sokwanele Tue, 24 Jun 2008 18:03:56 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=1096#comment-247550 True Grit: Wondering if you have <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7469700.stm" rel="nofollow">seen this link sent to me - it's the BBC</a>? Hope<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('247550','Sokwanele'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('247550','Sokwanele','True Grit: Wondering if you have <a href=\"http:\/\/news.bbc.co.uk\/1\/hi\/world\/africa\/7469700.stm\" rel=\"nofollow\">seen this link sent to me - it\'s the BBC<\/a>?\r\n\r\nHope'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> True Grit: Wondering if you have seen this link sent to me - it’s the BBC?

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]]> By: True Grit http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/1096#comment-247544 True Grit Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:44:44 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=1096#comment-247544 The Dutch minister of foreign affairs has confirmed in the Dutch Parliament today, that there is a world consensus, with particular reference to Zimbabwe, that national governments have a RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT their citizens from human rights abuses. Furthermore, he confirmed that he is having ongoing discussions with the French government, as well as the American United Nations representative as to how to intervene. He stated, in effect, that if the Zimbabwe government cannot exercise this responsibilty themselves, an outside force could, and would, come in and see to it that the human rights abuses were stopped.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('247544','True Grit'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('247544','True Grit','The Dutch minister of foreign affairs has confirmed in the Dutch Parliament today, that there is a world consensus, with particular reference to Zimbabwe, that national governments have a RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT\r\ntheir citizens from human rights abuses. Furthermore, he confirmed that he is having ongoing discussions with the French government, as well as the American United Nations representative as to how to intervene. He stated, in effect, that if the Zimbabwe government cannot exercise this responsibilty themselves, an outside force could, and would, come in and see to it that the human rights abuses were stopped.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> The Dutch minister of foreign affairs has confirmed in the Dutch Parliament today, that there is a world consensus, with particular reference to Zimbabwe, that national governments have a RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT
their citizens from human rights abuses. Furthermore, he confirmed that he is having ongoing discussions with the French government, as well as the American United Nations representative as to how to intervene. He stated, in effect, that if the Zimbabwe government cannot exercise this responsibilty themselves, an outside force could, and would, come in and see to it that the human rights abuses were stopped.
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]]> By: True Grit http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/1096#comment-247389 True Grit Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:47:23 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=1096#comment-247389 Faraway, yes amazing, apparently he only escaped his home with minutes to spare and chose the Dutch Embassy as a neutral safe house. What were they going to do if not arrest him? Now today, in an interview with the Dutch media, he said that he had been told by the Dutch Ambassador that Mugabe's regime had contacted the Embassy to tell Morgan that he can come out, and that they can assure him that he will be safe. Would you trust them? Or the militant thugs who are allowed to rampage above the law? In my opinion he should ask someone to helicopter him out of there. I don't think his life is safe. These assurances count for nothing once he is back home.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('247389','True Grit'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('247389','True Grit','Faraway, yes amazing, apparently he only escaped his home with minutes to spare and chose the Dutch Embassy as a neutral safe house. What were they going to do if not arrest him? Now today, in an interview with the Dutch media, he said that he had been told by the Dutch Ambassador that Mugabe\'s regime had contacted the Embassy to tell Morgan that he can come out, and that they can assure him that he will be safe.\r\n\r\nWould you trust them? Or the militant thugs who are allowed to rampage above the law? In my opinion he should ask someone to helicopter him out of there. I don\'t think his life is safe. These assurances count for nothing once he is back home.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> Faraway, yes amazing, apparently he only escaped his home with minutes to spare and chose the Dutch Embassy as a neutral safe house. What were they going to do if not arrest him? Now today, in an interview with the Dutch media, he said that he had been told by the Dutch Ambassador that Mugabe’s regime had contacted the Embassy to tell Morgan that he can come out, and that they can assure him that he will be safe.

Would you trust them? Or the militant thugs who are allowed to rampage above the law? In my opinion he should ask someone to helicopter him out of there. I don’t think his life is safe. These assurances count for nothing once he is back home.

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]]> By: Faraway http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/1096#comment-247375 Faraway Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:09:42 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=1096#comment-247375 How come this wasn't reported by anyone else yesterday ? Senegal's Wade says soldiers targeted Tsvangirai Reuters Tue 24 Jun 2008, 7:45 GMT DAKAR, June 24 (Reuters) - Senegalese President Abdoulaye Wade called for Zimbabwe's presidential election run-off to be postponed, saying soldiers entered the home of opposition leader Morgan Tsvangirai at the weekend, forcing him to flee. "I learned that soldiers entered Morgan Tsvangirai's home on Sunday, June 22, looking for him and that he is only safe because, alerted by friends, he left in a hurry a few minutes earlier," Wade said in a statement dated June 23 and received by Reuters on Tuesday. (Reporting by Alistair Thomson)<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('247375','Faraway'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('247375','Faraway','How come this wasn\'t reported by anyone else yesterday ?\r\n\r\nSenegal\'s Wade says soldiers targeted Tsvangirai \r\nReuters\r\n\r\nTue 24 Jun 2008, 7:45 GMT\r\n\r\nDAKAR, June 24 (Reuters) - Senegalese President Abdoulaye Wade called for \r\nZimbabwe\'s presidential election run-off to be postponed, saying soldiers entered the home of opposition leader Morgan Tsvangirai at the weekend, forcing him to flee.\r\n\r\n\"I learned that soldiers entered Morgan Tsvangirai\'s home on Sunday, June 22, looking for him and that he is only safe because, alerted by friends, he left in a hurry a few minutes earlier,\" Wade said in a statement dated June 23 and received by Reuters on Tuesday. (Reporting by Alistair Thomson)'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> How come this wasn’t reported by anyone else yesterday ?

Senegal’s Wade says soldiers targeted Tsvangirai
Reuters

Tue 24 Jun 2008, 7:45 GMT

DAKAR, June 24 (Reuters) - Senegalese President Abdoulaye Wade called for
Zimbabwe’s presidential election run-off to be postponed, saying soldiers entered the home of opposition leader Morgan Tsvangirai at the weekend, forcing him to flee.

“I learned that soldiers entered Morgan Tsvangirai’s home on Sunday, June 22, looking for him and that he is only safe because, alerted by friends, he left in a hurry a few minutes earlier,” Wade said in a statement dated June 23 and received by Reuters on Tuesday. (Reporting by Alistair Thomson)

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]]> By: True Grit http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/1096#comment-247337 True Grit Tue, 24 Jun 2008 11:58:37 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=1096#comment-247337 Can anybody make sense of this Comment from Zimbabwe Today in yesterday's post from Moses Moyo entitled The War of the Words? Ladies and Gentlemen, we thank the MDC President for being there for his country. To him we say thank you very much Mr President, you have shown the world that Mugabe is not what people thought he was. We are ready to deal with Zanu-PF through violence. We have been trying to give democracy a chance but Zanu-PF refused the people of Zimbabwe to choose a leader of their choice; therefore we are here to inform the people that sooner or later we will do it. This has to be clear to Zanu-PF and the people of Zimbabwe that we are an independent group. We only love peace, but Zanu-PF has forced us to do this. Those who are willing to join us please come to Mocambique, just ask for Tiro-tiro, Sebastiao or Muhondo @kiosk zvangu Bairro pedaco, you will be referred to many people. Plz be patient with our officers as they will use different screening techniques. CIO are also welcome. do not carry anything with you as you will be searched, and anything found will be disposed of in front of you, be it mobile phone, cash, anything. Brigadier Dzambo Marufu 23 June 2008.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('247337','True Grit'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('247337','True Grit','Can anybody make sense of this Comment from \r\nZimbabwe Today in yesterday\'s post from Moses Moyo entitled The War of the Words?\r\n\r\nLadies and Gentlemen, we thank the MDC President for being there for his country. To him we say thank you very much Mr President, you have shown the world that Mugabe is not what people thought he was. We are ready to deal with Zanu-PF through violence. We have been trying to give democracy a chance but Zanu-PF refused the people of Zimbabwe to choose a leader of their choice; therefore we are here to inform the people that sooner or later we will do it.\r\n\r\nThis has to be clear to Zanu-PF and the people of Zimbabwe that we are an independent group. We only love peace, but Zanu-PF has forced us to do this. Those who are willing to join us please come to Mocambique, just ask for Tiro-tiro, Sebastiao or Muhondo @kiosk zvangu Bairro pedaco, you will be referred to many people. Plz be patient with our officers as they will use different screening techniques.\r\nCIO are also welcome. do not carry anything with you as you will be searched, and anything found will be disposed of in front of you, be it mobile phone, cash, anything.\r\nBrigadier Dzambo Marufu\r\n23 June 2008.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> Can anybody make sense of this Comment from
Zimbabwe Today in yesterday’s post from Moses Moyo entitled The War of the Words?

Ladies and Gentlemen, we thank the MDC President for being there for his country. To him we say thank you very much Mr President, you have shown the world that Mugabe is not what people thought he was. We are ready to deal with Zanu-PF through violence. We have been trying to give democracy a chance but Zanu-PF refused the people of Zimbabwe to choose a leader of their choice; therefore we are here to inform the people that sooner or later we will do it.

This has to be clear to Zanu-PF and the people of Zimbabwe that we are an independent group. We only love peace, but Zanu-PF has forced us to do this. Those who are willing to join us please come to Mocambique, just ask for Tiro-tiro, Sebastiao or Muhondo @kiosk zvangu Bairro pedaco, you will be referred to many people. Plz be patient with our officers as they will use different screening techniques.
CIO are also welcome. do not carry anything with you as you will be searched, and anything found will be disposed of in front of you, be it mobile phone, cash, anything.
Brigadier Dzambo Marufu
23 June 2008.

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]]> By: Faraway http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/1096#comment-247306 Faraway Tue, 24 Jun 2008 10:14:11 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=1096#comment-247306 This has been my suspicion from the start. The regime is keen on wiping out half the population. The want to do away with the poor and starving. Less people to control. More food for themselves. We all know Mugabe's regime will never work with the MDC. So a government of unity is a hopeless dream on some part of the brokers dealing with him now. This regime would rather go down fighting till the very end. So the time has come for the UN to step in with force, and make Mugabe an offer he cannot refuse!<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('247306','Faraway'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('247306','Faraway','This has been my suspicion from the start. The regime is keen on wiping out half the population. The want to do away with the poor and starving. Less people to control. More food for themselves.\r\n\r\nWe all know Mugabe\'s regime will never work with the MDC. So a government of unity is a hopeless dream on some part of the brokers dealing with him now.\r\n\r\nThis regime would rather go down fighting till the very end.\r\n\r\nSo the time has come for the UN to step in with force, and make Mugabe an offer he cannot refuse!'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> This has been my suspicion from the start. The regime is keen on wiping out half the population. The want to do away with the poor and starving. Less people to control. More food for themselves.

We all know Mugabe’s regime will never work with the MDC. So a government of unity is a hopeless dream on some part of the brokers dealing with him now.

This regime would rather go down fighting till the very end.

So the time has come for the UN to step in with force, and make Mugabe an offer he cannot refuse!

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