Comments on: A currency in crisis http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/1158 This is Zimbabwe is Sokwanele's pro-democracy activist blog. It provides grassroots news and views from Zimbabwe. Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:42:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Ants http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/1158#comment-255140 Ants Fri, 04 Jul 2008 11:19:04 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=1158#comment-255140 Mbeki & Bob might be "thick like theives", but they are not supported. Even the South African paper The Sowetan contains outspoken articles against them:- http://www.sowetan.co.za/News/Article.aspx?id=796290 There is good sense in Africa - only trouble it appears to be only in civilian's hands and not leaders heads. Quite a snag, really....<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('255140','Ants'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('255140','Ants','Mbeki &amp; Bob might be \"thick like theives\", but they are not supported. Even the South African paper The Sowetan contains outspoken articles against them:-\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.sowetan.co.za\/News\/Article.aspx?id=796290\r\n\r\nThere is good sense in Africa - only trouble it appears to be only in civilian\'s hands and not leaders heads. Quite a snag, really....'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> Mbeki & Bob might be “thick like theives”, but they are not supported. Even the South African paper The Sowetan contains outspoken articles against them:-

http://www.sowetan.co.za/News/Article.aspx?id=796290

There is good sense in Africa - only trouble it appears to be only in civilian’s hands and not leaders heads. Quite a snag, really….

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]]> By: True Grit http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/1158#comment-254756 True Grit Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:07:15 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=1158#comment-254756 @ CN, 3/7, 20.24 Yes, you are right, a most interesting article. The comments are also interesting, and I liked one in particular from 'Brazilian' "GNU is the way the AU and Thabo Mbeki convinced themselves that they can give the world the impression that they disapprove of Robert Mugabe's despotic rule and at the same time do nothing about it. They seem to believe that murder,rape,intimidation and torture are things one can get away with. Just stick with your rhetoric that says you are fighting imperialism and never mind the fact that that imperialism is non-existent. Never mind that the truth is that you are a tyrant who is imposing himself on a country that doesn't want you."<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('254756','True Grit'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('254756','True Grit','@ CN, 3\/7, 20.24\r\n\r\nYes, you are right, a most interesting article. The comments are also interesting, and I liked one in particular from \'Brazilian\'\r\n\r\n\"GNU is the way the AU and Thabo Mbeki convinced themselves that they can give the world the impression that they disapprove of Robert Mugabe\'s despotic rule and at the same time do nothing about it. They seem to believe that murder,rape,intimidation and torture are things one can get away with. Just stick with your rhetoric that says you are fighting imperialism and never mind the fact that that imperialism is non-existent. Never mind that the truth is that you are a tyrant who is imposing himself on a country that doesn\'t want you.\"'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> @ CN, 3/7, 20.24

Yes, you are right, a most interesting article. The comments are also interesting, and I liked one in particular from ‘Brazilian’

“GNU is the way the AU and Thabo Mbeki convinced themselves that they can give the world the impression that they disapprove of Robert Mugabe’s despotic rule and at the same time do nothing about it. They seem to believe that murder,rape,intimidation and torture are things one can get away with. Just stick with your rhetoric that says you are fighting imperialism and never mind the fact that that imperialism is non-existent. Never mind that the truth is that you are a tyrant who is imposing himself on a country that doesn’t want you.”

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]]> By: CN http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/1158#comment-254607 CN Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:24:30 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=1158#comment-254607 Very interesting article in the Gaurdian today: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jul/03/zimbabwe.africanunion<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('254607','CN'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('254607','CN','Very interesting article in the Gaurdian today:\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.guardian.co.uk\/commentisfree\/2008\/jul\/03\/zimbabwe.africanunion'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> Very interesting article in the Gaurdian today:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jul/03/zimbabwe.africanunion

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]]> By: BeeSA http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/1158#comment-254582 BeeSA Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:19:27 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=1158#comment-254582 Mugabe takes another "World 1st"!! He's produced the highest inflation rate known to man and now he's crashed incredibly advanced technology with all his zero's. It's so far beyond our imaginations that we do have to laugh lest we just fall down in a heap and cry. It's always darkest before the dawn. We're lifting our faces towards the East, waiting for the sunrise...<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('254582','BeeSA'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('254582','BeeSA','Mugabe takes another \"World 1st\"!! He\'s produced the highest inflation rate known to man and now he\'s crashed incredibly advanced technology with all his zero\'s. It\'s so far beyond our imaginations that we do have to laugh lest we just fall down in a heap and cry.\r\n\r\nIt\'s always darkest before the dawn. We\'re lifting our faces towards the East, waiting for the sunrise...'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> Mugabe takes another “World 1st”!! He’s produced the highest inflation rate known to man and now he’s crashed incredibly advanced technology with all his zero’s. It’s so far beyond our imaginations that we do have to laugh lest we just fall down in a heap and cry.

It’s always darkest before the dawn. We’re lifting our faces towards the East, waiting for the sunrise…

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]]> By: S Davies http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/1158#comment-254505 S Davies Thu, 03 Jul 2008 15:10:11 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=1158#comment-254505 I have a question about sanctions, especially for those living in Zimbabwe. For instance, some of us helped put pressure to stop the German bank-note paper being delivered. I feel really good that this campaign actually came through - but what will the consequences be for our Zimbabwean friends? Many people are arguing (e.g. Toronto reporter Olivia Ward and a Canadian Zimbabwe expert called Professor Shackleton) that sanctions are either ineffective, or would hurt ordinary people more. I wrote to her to try to debate this, but what do ordinary Zimbabweans say? Are there particular sanction measures that would be more effective against the junta? If it were possible - for instance - to prevent the importation of luxury vehicles and spare parts for trucks.. COSATU has called for a demo at Beit Bridge on Saturday and is going to attempt a blockade. They've also called on Trade Union members everywhere to refuse to serve Mugabe or his ruling elite. So are we in a position to tell e.g. Pick N Pay at Musina, who's doing Uncle Bob's shopping for him? Smart sanctions, is the idea...but they would have to be not only smart but smartly applied, to be effective.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('254505','S Davies'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('254505','S Davies','I have a question about sanctions, especially for those living in Zimbabwe. \r\n\r\nFor instance, some of us helped put pressure to stop the German bank-note paper being delivered. I feel really good that this campaign actually came through - but what will the consequences be for our Zimbabwean friends? \r\n\r\nMany people are arguing (e.g. Toronto reporter Olivia Ward and a Canadian Zimbabwe expert called Professor Shackleton) that sanctions are either ineffective, or would hurt ordinary people more. I wrote to her to try to debate this, but what do ordinary Zimbabweans say? \r\n\r\nAre there particular sanction measures that would be more effective against the junta? If it were possible - for instance - to prevent the importation of luxury vehicles and spare parts for trucks.. \r\n\r\nCOSATU has called for a demo at Beit Bridge on Saturday and is going to attempt a blockade. They\'ve also called on Trade Union members everywhere to refuse to serve Mugabe or his ruling elite. So are we in a position to tell e.g. Pick N Pay at Musina, who\'s doing Uncle Bob\'s shopping for him? \r\n\r\nSmart sanctions, is the idea...but they would have to be not only smart but smartly applied, to be effective.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> I have a question about sanctions, especially for those living in Zimbabwe.

For instance, some of us helped put pressure to stop the German bank-note paper being delivered. I feel really good that this campaign actually came through - but what will the consequences be for our Zimbabwean friends?

Many people are arguing (e.g. Toronto reporter Olivia Ward and a Canadian Zimbabwe expert called Professor Shackleton) that sanctions are either ineffective, or would hurt ordinary people more. I wrote to her to try to debate this, but what do ordinary Zimbabweans say?

Are there particular sanction measures that would be more effective against the junta? If it were possible - for instance - to prevent the importation of luxury vehicles and spare parts for trucks..

COSATU has called for a demo at Beit Bridge on Saturday and is going to attempt a blockade. They’ve also called on Trade Union members everywhere to refuse to serve Mugabe or his ruling elite. So are we in a position to tell e.g. Pick N Pay at Musina, who’s doing Uncle Bob’s shopping for him?

Smart sanctions, is the idea…but they would have to be not only smart but smartly applied, to be effective.

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]]> By: Mike http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/1158#comment-254452 Mike Thu, 03 Jul 2008 13:35:03 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=1158#comment-254452 A few weeks ago I worked out the going rate for an individual crumb of bread. That figure ($1000 or $1 million in old money) is already hopelessly out of date!<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('254452','Mike'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('254452','Mike','A few weeks ago I worked out the going rate for an individual crumb of bread. That figure ($1000 or $1 million in old money) is already hopelessly out of date!'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> A few weeks ago I worked out the going rate for an individual crumb of bread. That figure ($1000 or $1 million in old money) is already hopelessly out of date!
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]]> By: Andy K http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/1158#comment-254420 Andy K Thu, 03 Jul 2008 11:59:46 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=1158#comment-254420 Can anyone split a twenty....You have to joke about it or you would cry. Mugabe has all he will ever need in his palace in the country and so does his hentchmen. What about the people, he must know that it the peope that make money for a country. Zimbabwe can't be loaned anymore money from the world bank or ther countries ecuse they know it's just too uch of a risk. The country can't last for ever it's just a matter of time before it implodes, I just hope that when it does the casulties are not few. Keep it peacefull Andy K<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('254420','Andy K'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('254420','Andy K','Can anyone split a twenty....You have to joke about it or you would cry.\r\nMugabe has all he will ever need in his palace in the country and so does his hentchmen.\r\nWhat about the people, he must know that it the peope that make money for a country. Zimbabwe can\'t be loaned anymore money from the world bank or ther countries ecuse they know it\'s just too uch of a risk.\r\nThe country can\'t last for ever it\'s just a matter of time before it implodes, I just hope that when it does the casulties are not few.\r\nKeep it peacefull\r\nAndy K'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> Can anyone split a twenty….You have to joke about it or you would cry.
Mugabe has all he will ever need in his palace in the country and so does his hentchmen.
What about the people, he must know that it the peope that make money for a country. Zimbabwe can’t be loaned anymore money from the world bank or ther countries ecuse they know it’s just too uch of a risk.
The country can’t last for ever it’s just a matter of time before it implodes, I just hope that when it does the casulties are not few.
Keep it peacefull
Andy K
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]]> By: Faraway http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/1158#comment-254416 Faraway Thu, 03 Jul 2008 11:45:40 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=1158#comment-254416 Add to that, newspapers in shambles. http://www.herald.co.zw/inside.aspx?sectid=1018&cat=1<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('254416','Faraway'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('254416','Faraway','Add to that, newspapers in shambles.\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.herald.co.zw\/inside.aspx?sectid=1018&amp;cat=1'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> Add to that, newspapers in shambles.

http://www.herald.co.zw/inside.aspx?sectid=1018&cat=1

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