Comments on: Links ~ 10 July 2008 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/1205 This is Zimbabwe is Sokwanele's pro-democracy activist blog. It provides grassroots news and views from Zimbabwe. Wed, 17 Mar 2010 01:43:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Living Zimbabwe http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/1205/comment-page-1#comment-269570 Living Zimbabwe Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:38:37 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=1205#comment-269570 How the world just continues to sit back and watch is beyond me. What I find even more appalling is how African leaders don’t seem to be helping much and taking any action to help the situation in Zimbabwe. It looks like it is at a point where Zimbabweans at home are living in fear and will not dare to take drastic measures to help the nation.
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]]> By: Mosquito http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/1205/comment-page-1#comment-264598 Mosquito Wed, 16 Jul 2008 03:02:43 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=1205#comment-264598 Seems like Black Empowerment being used for wrong reasons. Mbeki needs Mugabe faction to succeed with the Land Grab as he plans same for SA. It's all or nothing for him same as Mugabe. Mao killed 60 million in re-arranging his country, and that's what these men have in mind.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('264598','Mosquito'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('264598','Mosquito','Seems like Black Empowerment being used for wrong reasons.\r\nMbeki needs Mugabe faction to succeed with the Land Grab\r\nas he plans same for SA. It\'s all or nothing for him same as Mugabe.\r\nMao killed 60 million in re-arranging his country, and that\'s what \r\nthese men have in mind.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> Seems like Black Empowerment being used for wrong reasons.
Mbeki needs Mugabe faction to succeed with the Land Grab
as he plans same for SA. It’s all or nothing for him same as Mugabe.
Mao killed 60 million in re-arranging his country, and that’s what
these men have in mind.
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]]> By: mama http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/1205/comment-page-1#comment-260579 mama Sat, 12 Jul 2008 07:35:35 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=1205#comment-260579 Paul thanks for keeping us up to speed on this story I posted your blog in various place I hope you got lots of hits...heres hoping UK Home Office works out how to solve this problem and common sense will prevail..It's only taken us all 10 years to persuade them there is a problem in Zimbabwe lets hope it will not take them that long to solve it...every news item in the media from every angle will not let this slip onto the back burner.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('260579','mama'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('260579','mama','Paul thanks for keeping us up to speed on this story I posted your blog in various place I hope you got lots of hits...heres hoping UK Home Office works out how to solve this problem and common sense will prevail..It\'s only taken us all 10 years to persuade them there is a problem in Zimbabwe lets hope it will not take them that long to solve it...every news item in the media from every angle will not let this slip onto the back burner.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> Paul thanks for keeping us up to speed on this story I posted your blog in various place I hope you got lots of hits…heres hoping UK Home Office works out how to solve this problem and common sense will prevail..It’s only taken us all 10 years to persuade them there is a problem in Zimbabwe lets hope it will not take them that long to solve it…every news item in the media from every angle will not let this slip onto the back burner.
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]]> By: paul canning http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/1205/comment-page-1#comment-260290 paul canning Fri, 11 Jul 2008 20:50:14 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=1205#comment-260290 The Channel Four News report can be viewed here http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1529573111/bclid1659956787/bctid1662450021 and there's an embed code available<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('260290','paul canning'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('260290','paul canning','The Channel Four News report can be viewed here\r\nhttp:\/\/link.brightcove.com\/services\/link\/bcpid1529573111\/bclid1659956787\/bctid1662450021\r\nand there\'s an embed code available'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> The Channel Four News report can be viewed here
http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1529573111/bclid1659956787/bctid1662450021
and there’s an embed code available
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]]> By: paul canning http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/1205/comment-page-1#comment-260195 paul canning Fri, 11 Jul 2008 16:44:48 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=1205#comment-260195 The Archbishop of York's support for a protest about the situation of Zimbabwean refugees was covered by the BBC + ITN today, which is wonderful. BBC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7501288.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7502187.stm ITN:http://itn.co.uk/news/05d4f6b6cb0e104c13fa8424010dc1cb.html<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('260195','paul canning'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('260195','paul canning','The Archbishop of York\'s support for a protest about the situation of Zimbabwean refugees was covered by the BBC + ITN today, which is wonderful.\r\n\r\nBBC: http:\/\/news.bbc.co.uk\/1\/hi\/uk\/7501288.stm\r\nhttp:\/\/news.bbc.co.uk\/1\/hi\/uk\/7502187.stm\r\nITN:http:\/\/itn.co.uk\/news\/05d4f6b6cb0e104c13fa8424010dc1cb.html'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> The Archbishop of York’s support for a protest about the situation of Zimbabwean refugees was covered by the BBC + ITN today, which is wonderful.

BBC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7501288.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7502187.stm
ITN:http://itn.co.uk/news/05d4f6b6cb0e104c13fa8424010dc1cb.html

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]]> By: Thutshu http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/1205/comment-page-1#comment-260157 Thutshu Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:55:36 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=1205#comment-260157 I have met Perence Shiri in real life in the 80s. Trust me the picture shown looks good. To me he struck me as a cannabis abusing red-eyed orgre. He boasted that he had killed lots of young Metebele boys. This was at an officers' mess. Then, I thought the issue was that of subduing a tribe which was being made to succumb to a new leadership by a different tribe. The TV and radio were flooded with Zanu songs Like 'zanu vanhu, vahnhu izanu' played adnauesium along with 5 year plans 'Gore rekusandura ...blah blah blah' etc. Speaking si Ndebele in Harare was akin to signing your death warrant. The Matebele were dissidents, period. Few people in Harare undersstood or sympathised with the plight of the Matebele people then. There were military advisors from Britain and everywhere else who came to offer military advice during this period. No news was relayed to the west about the atrocities. And Mugabe was wallwing in the western limelight as the true African revolutionary until Mandela was released. Perence Shiri has been in the UK as late as the early 2000s doing some military course. Now, we have an issue here. These people in all honesty needed psychological help, then, rather than military advice and training. After their so called military venture in Matebeleland they felt invincible. It is shocking to see this happening to the Shona the junta's own people, because they are obviously in the majority and they have now denounced their heroes whom they used to praise sing and encourage to perpetrate these murders to get rid of the scum in the form of people from Matebeland as well as the Midlands. They forgot one thing. That the so called junta was learning a lesson about dictatorship. That you could maintain it by public torture, using brainwashed youth. Now no one is singing Zanu praise songs, they sre singing funeral ones, countyrwide. I pity Robert M. He dug his pit let him fall in it. Indeed he is slipping into it. As for Grace I wonder if she accords him any conjugal rights any more. Remember there's wind that she is related to Chiwenga, making Mugabe a perfect victim of this JOC web and manipulation. And China has signed another arms deal with these people. God help us!!<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('260157','Thutshu'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('260157','Thutshu','I have met Perence Shiri in real life in the 80s. Trust me the picture shown looks good. To me he struck me as a cannabis abusing red-eyed orgre. He boasted that he had killed lots of young Metebele boys. This was at an officers\' mess.\r\n\r\nThen, I thought the issue was that of subduing a tribe which was being made to succumb to a new leadership by a different tribe. \r\n\r\nThe TV and radio were flooded with Zanu songs Like \'zanu vanhu, vahnhu izanu\' played adnauesium along with 5 year plans \'Gore rekusandura ...blah blah blah\' etc. Speaking si Ndebele in Harare was akin to signing your death warrant. The Matebele were dissidents, period. Few people in Harare undersstood or sympathised with the plight of the Matebele people then. \r\n\r\nThere were military advisors from Britain and everywhere else who came to offer military advice during this period. No news was relayed to the west about the atrocities. And Mugabe was wallwing in the western limelight as the true African revolutionary until Mandela was released.\r\n\r\nPerence Shiri has been in the UK as late as the early 2000s doing some military course.\r\n\r\nNow, we have an issue here. These people in all honesty needed psychological help, then, rather than military advice and training. After their so called military venture in Matebeleland they felt invincible. It is shocking to see this happening to the Shona the junta\'s own people, because they are obviously in the majority and they have now denounced their heroes whom they used to praise sing and encourage to perpetrate these murders to get rid of the scum in the form of people from Matebeland as well as the Midlands.\r\n\r\nThey forgot one thing. That the so called junta was learning a lesson about dictatorship. That you could maintain it by public torture, using brainwashed youth. \r\n\r\nNow no one is singing Zanu praise songs, they sre singing funeral ones, countyrwide. I pity Robert M. He dug his pit let him fall in it. Indeed he is slipping into it. As for Grace I wonder if she accords him any conjugal rights any more. \r\n\r\nRemember there\'s wind that she is related to Chiwenga, making Mugabe a perfect victim of this JOC web and manipulation.\r\n\r\nAnd China has signed another arms deal with these people. \r\n\r\nGod help us!!'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> I have met Perence Shiri in real life in the 80s. Trust me the picture shown looks good. To me he struck me as a cannabis abusing red-eyed orgre. He boasted that he had killed lots of young Metebele boys. This was at an officers’ mess.

Then, I thought the issue was that of subduing a tribe which was being made to succumb to a new leadership by a different tribe.

The TV and radio were flooded with Zanu songs Like ‘zanu vanhu, vahnhu izanu’ played adnauesium along with 5 year plans ‘Gore rekusandura …blah blah blah’ etc. Speaking si Ndebele in Harare was akin to signing your death warrant. The Matebele were dissidents, period. Few people in Harare undersstood or sympathised with the plight of the Matebele people then.

There were military advisors from Britain and everywhere else who came to offer military advice during this period. No news was relayed to the west about the atrocities. And Mugabe was wallwing in the western limelight as the true African revolutionary until Mandela was released.

Perence Shiri has been in the UK as late as the early 2000s doing some military course.

Now, we have an issue here. These people in all honesty needed psychological help, then, rather than military advice and training. After their so called military venture in Matebeleland they felt invincible. It is shocking to see this happening to the Shona the junta’s own people, because they are obviously in the majority and they have now denounced their heroes whom they used to praise sing and encourage to perpetrate these murders to get rid of the scum in the form of people from Matebeland as well as the Midlands.

They forgot one thing. That the so called junta was learning a lesson about dictatorship. That you could maintain it by public torture, using brainwashed youth.

Now no one is singing Zanu praise songs, they sre singing funeral ones, countyrwide. I pity Robert M. He dug his pit let him fall in it. Indeed he is slipping into it. As for Grace I wonder if she accords him any conjugal rights any more.

Remember there’s wind that she is related to Chiwenga, making Mugabe a perfect victim of this JOC web and manipulation.

And China has signed another arms deal with these people.

God help us!!

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]]> By: justfoodnow http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/1205/comment-page-1#comment-260118 justfoodnow Fri, 11 Jul 2008 13:55:11 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=1205#comment-260118 And the world is quiet and they jump around threatening sanctions and yet they DO NOTHING!!!! So are we waiting for another Rwanda? Or do we just wait until there is no-one let?<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('260118','justfoodnow'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('260118','justfoodnow','And the world is quiet and they jump around threatening sanctions and yet they DO NOTHING!!!! So are we waiting for another Rwanda? Or do we just wait until there is no-one let?'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> And the world is quiet and they jump around threatening sanctions and yet they DO NOTHING!!!! So are we waiting for another Rwanda? Or do we just wait until there is no-one let?
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