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		<title>By: Ian Mhangamuwe</title>
		<link>http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/1217/comment-page-1#comment-266443</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Mhangamuwe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mugabe must go. Just seen this site www.MugabeGo.com

Some hard vibes there!&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;266443&#039;,&#039;Ian Mhangamuwe&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;266443&#039;,&#039;Ian Mhangamuwe&#039;,&#039;Mugabe must go. Just seen this site www.MugabeGo.com\r\n\r\nSome hard vibes there!&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mugabe must go. Just seen this site <a href="http://www.MugabeGo.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.MugabeGo.com</a></p>
<p>Some hard vibes there!
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		<title>By: Refugesta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Refugesta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 06:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before the international community acts they need to see more deaths, more mutilated bodies, preferably floating in the Zambezi and Limpopo. The truth of the matter is they will not act soon enough. Even when the hired mercenaries are proven to exist they will first deliberate on the validity of the evidence etc. How many will be traumatised by what they have seen by then? How many people will have died by then? Died of the various reasons why people in Zimbabwe die everyday. The life expectancy is 37years currently and this is not because of the mercenaries. This situation has not been acceptable for a long time now. Proving the presence of mercenaries will not accelerate anything. Zimbabweans we need to defend ourselves, no one will in a long time yet. How far does this have to go?&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;265639&#039;,&#039;Refugesta&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;265639&#039;,&#039;Refugesta&#039;,&#039;Before the international community acts they need to see more deaths, more mutilated bodies, preferably floating in the Zambezi and Limpopo. The truth of the matter is they will not act soon enough. Even when the hired mercenaries are proven to exist they will first deliberate on the validity of the evidence etc. How many will be traumatised by what they have seen by then? How many people will have died by then? Died of the various reasons why people in Zimbabwe die everyday. The life expectancy is 37years currently and this is not because of the mercenaries. This situation has not been acceptable for a long time now. Proving the presence of mercenaries will not accelerate anything. Zimbabweans we need to defend ourselves, no one will in a long time yet. How far does this have to go?&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before the international community acts they need to see more deaths, more mutilated bodies, preferably floating in the Zambezi and Limpopo. The truth of the matter is they will not act soon enough. Even when the hired mercenaries are proven to exist they will first deliberate on the validity of the evidence etc. How many will be traumatised by what they have seen by then? How many people will have died by then? Died of the various reasons why people in Zimbabwe die everyday. The life expectancy is 37years currently and this is not because of the mercenaries. This situation has not been acceptable for a long time now. Proving the presence of mercenaries will not accelerate anything. Zimbabweans we need to defend ourselves, no one will in a long time yet. How far does this have to go?
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/1217/comment-page-1#comment-264490</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 00:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We hear various people justifying their inactions by saying that if we do the wrong thing it could end up in a civil war. Perhaps those people can explain what there is about the current situation that distinguishes it from a war. 

I remember the previous war, and it really wasn&#039;t that different except that then there were two groups of people bullying the rural populace into accepting their authority, rather than one.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;264490&#039;,&#039;Mike&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;264490&#039;,&#039;Mike&#039;,&#039;We hear various people justifying their inactions by saying that if we do the wrong thing it could end up in a civil war. Perhaps those people can explain what there is about the current situation that distinguishes it from a war. \r\n\r\nI remember the previous war, and it really wasn\&#039;t that different except that then there were two groups of people bullying the rural populace into accepting their authority, rather than one.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We hear various people justifying their inactions by saying that if we do the wrong thing it could end up in a civil war. Perhaps those people can explain what there is about the current situation that distinguishes it from a war. </p>
<p>I remember the previous war, and it really wasn&#8217;t that different except that then there were two groups of people bullying the rural populace into accepting their authority, rather than one.
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		<title>By: S Davies</title>
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		<dc:creator>S Davies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like Sok I also felt completely chilled on reading this. Although the report I saw came from Harare Tribune which I don&#039;t really trust as a news source, it has the ring of truth. 

When not hand wringing over Zimbabwe, I&#039;m a psychologist by occupation, and from that viewpoint have been wondering about these extremely gruesome acts of torture, which can only occur when in the eyes of the perpetrator, the victim has been completely dehumanised. 

Ghastly as the alcohol fuelled, morally lost Green Bombers and Zimbabwean paramilitaries may be, it seems much more likely from a psychological perspective that these acts are being carried out or at least initiated by foreign mercenaries. 

I am not saying that all Hutus or any other group are bloodthirsty and barbarous. You have to look at the history: how these particular individuals came to carry out such acts in their own country, their sense of frustration and rage at being driven out, their involvement as mercenaries in other conflicts and much else. It is so much easier to see a victim of another ethnic or language group as non-human than one who speaks your own language, even if you hate what that person stand for. Such perpetrators will carry out their acts with the unemotional savage efficiency of Roman soldiers crucifying Jewish dissidents! 

It would be very dangerous, but if it is possible to obtain proof of these foreigners being involved in torture camps, or of material Chinese support for the Zimbabwe military, that is the kind of information that might finally inspire the moribund institutions of the AU, SADC and UN to react, if anything can. Certainly it would cause a fresh torrent of outrage, including in South Africa and make it clear to anyone in ZANU PF who still has a conscience, that criminal prosecution is inevitable for those who collude.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;264337&#039;,&#039;S Davies&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;264337&#039;,&#039;S Davies&#039;,&#039;Like Sok I also felt completely chilled on reading this. Although the report I saw came from Harare Tribune which I don\&#039;t really trust as a news source, it has the ring of truth. \r\n\r\nWhen not hand wringing over Zimbabwe, I\&#039;m a psychologist by occupation, and from that viewpoint have been wondering about these extremely gruesome acts of torture, which can only occur when in the eyes of the perpetrator, the victim has been completely dehumanised. \r\n\r\nGhastly as the alcohol fuelled, morally lost Green Bombers and Zimbabwean paramilitaries may be, it seems much more likely from a psychological perspective that these acts are being carried out or at least initiated by foreign mercenaries. \r\n\r\nI am not saying that all Hutus or any other group are bloodthirsty and barbarous. You have to look at the history: how these particular individuals came to carry out such acts in their own country, their sense of frustration and rage at being driven out, their involvement as mercenaries in other conflicts and much else. It is so much easier to see a victim of another ethnic or language group as non-human than one who speaks your own language, even if you hate what that person stand for. Such perpetrators will carry out their acts with the unemotional savage efficiency of Roman soldiers crucifying Jewish dissidents! \r\n\r\nIt would be very dangerous, but if it is possible to obtain proof of these foreigners being involved in torture camps, or of material Chinese support for the Zimbabwe military, that is the kind of information that might finally inspire the moribund institutions of the AU, SADC and UN to react, if anything can. Certainly it would cause a fresh torrent of outrage, including in South Africa and make it clear to anyone in ZANU PF who still has a conscience, that criminal prosecution is inevitable for those who collude.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like Sok I also felt completely chilled on reading this. Although the report I saw came from Harare Tribune which I don&#8217;t really trust as a news source, it has the ring of truth. </p>
<p>When not hand wringing over Zimbabwe, I&#8217;m a psychologist by occupation, and from that viewpoint have been wondering about these extremely gruesome acts of torture, which can only occur when in the eyes of the perpetrator, the victim has been completely dehumanised. </p>
<p>Ghastly as the alcohol fuelled, morally lost Green Bombers and Zimbabwean paramilitaries may be, it seems much more likely from a psychological perspective that these acts are being carried out or at least initiated by foreign mercenaries. </p>
<p>I am not saying that all Hutus or any other group are bloodthirsty and barbarous. You have to look at the history: how these particular individuals came to carry out such acts in their own country, their sense of frustration and rage at being driven out, their involvement as mercenaries in other conflicts and much else. It is so much easier to see a victim of another ethnic or language group as non-human than one who speaks your own language, even if you hate what that person stand for. Such perpetrators will carry out their acts with the unemotional savage efficiency of Roman soldiers crucifying Jewish dissidents! </p>
<p>It would be very dangerous, but if it is possible to obtain proof of these foreigners being involved in torture camps, or of material Chinese support for the Zimbabwe military, that is the kind of information that might finally inspire the moribund institutions of the AU, SADC and UN to react, if anything can. Certainly it would cause a fresh torrent of outrage, including in South Africa and make it clear to anyone in ZANU PF who still has a conscience, that criminal prosecution is inevitable for those who collude.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('264337','S Davies'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('264337','S Davies','Like Sok I also felt completely chilled on reading this. Although the report I saw came from Harare Tribune which I don\'t really trust as a news source, it has the ring of truth. \r\n\r\nWhen not hand wringing over Zimbabwe, I\'m a psychologist by occupation, and from that viewpoint have been wondering about these extremely gruesome acts of torture, which can only occur when in the eyes of the perpetrator, the victim has been completely dehumanised. \r\n\r\nGhastly as the alcohol fuelled, morally lost Green Bombers and Zimbabwean paramilitaries may be, it seems much more likely from a psychological perspective that these acts are being carried out or at least initiated by foreign mercenaries. \r\n\r\nI am not saying that all Hutus or any other group are bloodthirsty and barbarous. You have to look at the history: how these particular individuals came to carry out such acts in their own country, their sense of frustration and rage at being driven out, their involvement as mercenaries in other conflicts and much else. It is so much easier to see a victim of another ethnic or language group as non-human than one who speaks your own language, even if you hate what that person stand for. Such perpetrators will carry out their acts with the unemotional savage efficiency of Roman soldiers crucifying Jewish dissidents! \r\n\r\nIt would be very dangerous, but if it is possible to obtain proof of these foreigners being involved in torture camps, or of material Chinese support for the Zimbabwe military, that is the kind of information that might finally inspire the moribund institutions of the AU, SADC and UN to react, if anything can. Certainly it would cause a fresh torrent of outrage, including in South Africa and make it clear to anyone in ZANU PF who still has a conscience, that criminal prosecution is inevitable for those who collude.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: Mfan'ekhaya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mfan'ekhaya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 18:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shame

What a shame indeed. Try going on to the u- tube website and see what mugabe did before this. He had murderers trained by the Koreans to kill zimbabwean citizens. 

Koreans, chinese and Hutus are not zimbabwean by the way. How long will it take people like &#039;shame&#039; to stop theorising about the &#039;west&#039;s negative reports&#039;. Do you seriously believe that locals who have witnessed this are lying. 

Please understandad one thing. There is something called propaganda it is used to stifle accurate information and fuel zanu friendly information. 

During an earlier genocidal venture like this (in Matebeleland), any ordinary citizen who said the truth about what was happening was charged with treason.

I am not surprised at all if mugabe and his people are using hutus or anybody else. They have been to the great lakes region on military so called peace keeping operations, I&#039;m sure they saw what could benefit them if a similar situaution arose in their country. Learn this one thing, they are clutching on to power at all costs.

To the extent of treating their own people in a dehumanised and atrociuos manner. Rape, mutilation, torture, beatings, burnings, on ordinary citizens, unarmed is cowardly and disgraceful. And you Shame think reports about this are a western ploy. What a shame!! 

You may be hutu yourself and might have taken offence to what some of your kinsmen have suddenly been turned into, which is a shame!!&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;264185&#039;,&#039;Mfan\&#039;ekhaya&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;264185&#039;,&#039;Mfan\&#039;ekhaya&#039;,&#039;Shame\r\n\r\nWhat a shame indeed. Try going on to the u- tube website and see what mugabe did before this. He had murderers trained by the Koreans to kill zimbabwean citizens. \r\n\r\nKoreans, chinese and Hutus are not zimbabwean by the way. How long will it take people like \&#039;shame\&#039; to stop theorising about the \&#039;west\&#039;s negative reports\&#039;. Do you seriously believe that locals who have witnessed this are lying. \r\n\r\nPlease understandad one thing. There is something called propaganda it is used to stifle accurate information and fuel zanu friendly information. \r\n\r\nDuring an earlier genocidal venture like this (in Matebeleland), any ordinary citizen who said the truth about what was happening was charged with treason.\r\n\r\nI am not surprised at all if mugabe and his people are using hutus or anybody else. They have been to the great lakes region on military so called peace keeping operations, I\&#039;m sure they saw what could benefit them if a similar situaution arose in their country. Learn this one thing, they are clutching on to power at all costs.\r\n\r\nTo the extent of treating their own people in a dehumanised and atrociuos manner. Rape, mutilation, torture, beatings, burnings, on ordinary citizens, unarmed is cowardly and disgraceful. And you Shame think reports about this are a western ploy. What a shame!! \r\n\r\nYou may be hutu yourself and might have taken offence to what some of your kinsmen have suddenly been turned into, which is a shame!!&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shame</p>
<p>What a shame indeed. Try going on to the u- tube website and see what mugabe did before this. He had murderers trained by the Koreans to kill zimbabwean citizens. </p>
<p>Koreans, chinese and Hutus are not zimbabwean by the way. How long will it take people like &#8216;shame&#8217; to stop theorising about the &#8216;west&#8217;s negative reports&#8217;. Do you seriously believe that locals who have witnessed this are lying. </p>
<p>Please understandad one thing. There is something called propaganda it is used to stifle accurate information and fuel zanu friendly information. </p>
<p>During an earlier genocidal venture like this (in Matebeleland), any ordinary citizen who said the truth about what was happening was charged with treason.</p>
<p>I am not surprised at all if mugabe and his people are using hutus or anybody else. They have been to the great lakes region on military so called peace keeping operations, I&#8217;m sure they saw what could benefit them if a similar situaution arose in their country. Learn this one thing, they are clutching on to power at all costs.</p>
<p>To the extent of treating their own people in a dehumanised and atrociuos manner. Rape, mutilation, torture, beatings, burnings, on ordinary citizens, unarmed is cowardly and disgraceful. And you Shame think reports about this are a western ploy. What a shame!! </p>
<p>You may be hutu yourself and might have taken offence to what some of your kinsmen have suddenly been turned into, which is a shame!!
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('264185','Mfan\'ekhaya'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('264185','Mfan\'ekhaya','Shame\r\n\r\nWhat a shame indeed. Try going on to the u- tube website and see what mugabe did before this. He had murderers trained by the Koreans to kill zimbabwean citizens. \r\n\r\nKoreans, chinese and Hutus are not zimbabwean by the way. How long will it take people like \'shame\' to stop theorising about the \'west\'s negative reports\'. Do you seriously believe that locals who have witnessed this are lying. \r\n\r\nPlease understandad one thing. There is something called propaganda it is used to stifle accurate information and fuel zanu friendly information. \r\n\r\nDuring an earlier genocidal venture like this (in Matebeleland), any ordinary citizen who said the truth about what was happening was charged with treason.\r\n\r\nI am not surprised at all if mugabe and his people are using hutus or anybody else. They have been to the great lakes region on military so called peace keeping operations, I\'m sure they saw what could benefit them if a similar situaution arose in their country. Learn this one thing, they are clutching on to power at all costs.\r\n\r\nTo the extent of treating their own people in a dehumanised and atrociuos manner. Rape, mutilation, torture, beatings, burnings, on ordinary citizens, unarmed is cowardly and disgraceful. And you Shame think reports about this are a western ploy. What a shame!! \r\n\r\nYou may be hutu yourself and might have taken offence to what some of your kinsmen have suddenly been turned into, which is a shame!!'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: Tara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The presence of foreign &quot;soldiers&quot; has been reported by human rights groups and local people. It can not be ignored and it doesn&#039;t matter what nationality they might be. 

Should it be true that mercenaries are now &#039;employed&#039; it would be for the benefit of their greater experience in warfare tactics, discipline, etc. something that many of the militia lack. Every effort should be made to confirm if there are indeed mercenaries involved. 

It would certainly, put a whole new perspective on what some seem to regard as an &#039;internal affairs&#039;.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;264099&#039;,&#039;Tara&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;264099&#039;,&#039;Tara&#039;,&#039;The presence of foreign \&quot;soldiers\&quot; has been reported by human rights groups and local people. It can not be ignored and it doesn\&#039;t matter what nationality they might be. \r\n\r\nShould it be true that mercenaries are now \&#039;employed\&#039; it would be for the benefit of their greater experience in warfare tactics, discipline, etc. something that many of the militia lack. Every effort should be made to confirm if there are indeed mercenaries involved. \r\n\r\nIt would certainly, put a whole new perspective on what some seem to regard as an \&#039;internal affairs\&#039;.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The presence of foreign &#8220;soldiers&#8221; has been reported by human rights groups and local people. It can not be ignored and it doesn&#8217;t matter what nationality they might be. </p>
<p>Should it be true that mercenaries are now &#8216;employed&#8217; it would be for the benefit of their greater experience in warfare tactics, discipline, etc. something that many of the militia lack. Every effort should be made to confirm if there are indeed mercenaries involved. </p>
<p>It would certainly, put a whole new perspective on what some seem to regard as an &#8216;internal affairs&#8217;.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('264099','Tara'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('264099','Tara','The presence of foreign \&quot;soldiers\&quot; has been reported by human rights groups and local people. It can not be ignored and it doesn\'t matter what nationality they might be. \r\n\r\nShould it be true that mercenaries are now \'employed\' it would be for the benefit of their greater experience in warfare tactics, discipline, etc. something that many of the militia lack. Every effort should be made to confirm if there are indeed mercenaries involved. \r\n\r\nIt would certainly, put a whole new perspective on what some seem to regard as an \'internal affairs\'.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: Shame</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SHAME ON AFRICA!!!!!!!!!
Will, think for a second that hutus are there only  to kill people????  that is again a shame for African to beleive in Western fablicated story, yes i beleive Mugabe has to go,  but sugesting that Hutus are implicated in these fights?  BIG SHAME ON AFRICANS. Remember British and American Provided maps and sattelites images, wich Kagame used to track and kill about 200 000 of those Hutus, yet he is the one asking Mugabe to not kill his own poeple,  huuum. This shows a desparation (for british) to removing Mugabe by all means.

SHAME ON AFRICA!!!!!!!!!&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;264046&#039;,&#039;Shame&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;264046&#039;,&#039;Shame&#039;,&#039;SHAME ON AFRICA!!!!!!!!!\r\nWill, think for a second that hutus are there only  to kill people????  that is again a shame for African to beleive in Western fablicated story, yes i beleive Mugabe has to go,  but sugesting that Hutus are implicated in these fights?  BIG SHAME ON AFRICANS. Remember British and American Provided maps and sattelites images, wich Kagame used to track and kill about 200 000 of those Hutus, yet he is the one asking Mugabe to not kill his own poeple,  huuum. This shows a desparation (for british) to removing Mugabe by all means.\r\n\r\nSHAME ON AFRICA!!!!!!!!!&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SHAME ON AFRICA!!!!!!!!!<br />
Will, think for a second that hutus are there only  to kill people????  that is again a shame for African to beleive in Western fablicated story, yes i beleive Mugabe has to go,  but sugesting that Hutus are implicated in these fights?  BIG SHAME ON AFRICANS. Remember British and American Provided maps and sattelites images, wich Kagame used to track and kill about 200 000 of those Hutus, yet he is the one asking Mugabe to not kill his own poeple,  huuum. This shows a desparation (for british) to removing Mugabe by all means.</p>
<p>SHAME ON AFRICA!!!!!!!!!
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('264046','Shame'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('264046','Shame','SHAME ON AFRICA!!!!!!!!!\r\nWill, think for a second that hutus are there only  to kill people????  that is again a shame for African to beleive in Western fablicated story, yes i beleive Mugabe has to go,  but sugesting that Hutus are implicated in these fights?  BIG SHAME ON AFRICANS. Remember British and American Provided maps and sattelites images, wich Kagame used to track and kill about 200 000 of those Hutus, yet he is the one asking Mugabe to not kill his own poeple,  huuum. This shows a desparation (for british) to removing Mugabe by all means.\r\n\r\nSHAME ON AFRICA!!!!!!!!!'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: True Grit</title>
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		<dc:creator>True Grit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From: THE WASTE LAND by T.S.Eliot

           Burial of the Dead

What are the roots that clutch, what branches grow out of this stony rubbish? Son of man,
You cannot say, or guess, for you know only
A heap of broken images, where the sun beats,
And the dead tree gives no shelter, the cricket no relief,

And the dry stone no sound of water. Only
There is shadow under this red rock,
Come in under the shadow of this red rock,
And I will show you something different from
Either your shadow at morning 
Striding behind you,
Or your shadow at evening rising to meet you;
I will show you fear in a handful of dust.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;263903&#039;,&#039;True Grit&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;263903&#039;,&#039;True Grit&#039;,&#039;From: THE WASTE LAND by T.S.Eliot\r\n\r\n           Burial of the Dead\r\n\r\nWhat are the roots that clutch, what branches grow out of this stony rubbish? Son of man,\r\nYou cannot say, or guess, for you know only\r\nA heap of broken images, where the sun beats,\r\nAnd the dead tree gives no shelter, the cricket no relief,\r\n\r\nAnd the dry stone no sound of water. Only\r\nThere is shadow under this red rock,\r\nCome in under the shadow of this red rock,\r\nAnd I will show you something different from\r\nEither your shadow at morning \r\nStriding behind you,\r\nOr your shadow at evening rising to meet you;\r\nI will show you fear in a handful of dust.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From: THE WASTE LAND by T.S.Eliot</p>
<p>           Burial of the Dead</p>
<p>What are the roots that clutch, what branches grow out of this stony rubbish? Son of man,<br />
You cannot say, or guess, for you know only<br />
A heap of broken images, where the sun beats,<br />
And the dead tree gives no shelter, the cricket no relief,</p>
<p>And the dry stone no sound of water. Only<br />
There is shadow under this red rock,<br />
Come in under the shadow of this red rock,<br />
And I will show you something different from<br />
Either your shadow at morning<br />
Striding behind you,<br />
Or your shadow at evening rising to meet you;<br />
I will show you fear in a handful of dust.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('263903','True Grit'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('263903','True Grit','From: THE WASTE LAND by T.S.Eliot\r\n\r\n           Burial of the Dead\r\n\r\nWhat are the roots that clutch, what branches grow out of this stony rubbish? Son of man,\r\nYou cannot say, or guess, for you know only\r\nA heap of broken images, where the sun beats,\r\nAnd the dead tree gives no shelter, the cricket no relief,\r\n\r\nAnd the dry stone no sound of water. Only\r\nThere is shadow under this red rock,\r\nCome in under the shadow of this red rock,\r\nAnd I will show you something different from\r\nEither your shadow at morning \r\nStriding behind you,\r\nOr your shadow at evening rising to meet you;\r\nI will show you fear in a handful of dust.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: Fish Eagle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fish Eagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has appeared on the UN website.

&quot;A Third World diplomat told IPS that both Russia and China, which jointly vetoed a Western-sponsored resolution to impose sanctions on Zimbabwe last week, apparently indicated they were willing to abstain on the vote provided the United States, France and Britain would give an &quot;up-front assurance&quot; that the Security Council would hold back the indictment&quot;

link: http://allafrica.com/stories/200807141818.html

This is getting to be really cynical.!!! or is it just me.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;263902&#039;,&#039;Fish Eagle&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;263902&#039;,&#039;Fish Eagle&#039;,&#039;This has appeared on the UN website.\r\n\r\n\&quot;A Third World diplomat told IPS that both Russia and China, which jointly vetoed a Western-sponsored resolution to impose sanctions on Zimbabwe last week, apparently indicated they were willing to abstain on the vote provided the United States, France and Britain would give an \&quot;up-front assurance\&quot; that the Security Council would hold back the indictment\&quot;\r\n\r\nlink: http:\/\/allafrica.com\/stories\/200807141818.html\r\n\r\nThis is getting to be really cynical.!!! or is it just me.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has appeared on the UN website.</p>
<p>&#8220;A Third World diplomat told IPS that both Russia and China, which jointly vetoed a Western-sponsored resolution to impose sanctions on Zimbabwe last week, apparently indicated they were willing to abstain on the vote provided the United States, France and Britain would give an &#8220;up-front assurance&#8221; that the Security Council would hold back the indictment&#8221;</p>
<p>link: <a href="http://allafrica.com/stories/200807141818.html" rel="nofollow">http://allafrica.com/stories/200807141818.html</a></p>
<p>This is getting to be really cynical.!!! or is it just me.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('263902','Fish Eagle'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('263902','Fish Eagle','This has appeared on the UN website.\r\n\r\n\&quot;A Third World diplomat told IPS that both Russia and China, which jointly vetoed a Western-sponsored resolution to impose sanctions on Zimbabwe last week, apparently indicated they were willing to abstain on the vote provided the United States, France and Britain would give an \&quot;up-front assurance\&quot; that the Security Council would hold back the indictment\&quot;\r\n\r\nlink: http:\/\/allafrica.com\/stories\/200807141818.html\r\n\r\nThis is getting to be really cynical.!!! or is it just me.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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