Comments on: Links ~ 15 July 2008 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/1220 This is Zimbabwe is Sokwanele's pro-democracy activist blog. It provides grassroots news and views from Zimbabwe. Wed, 08 Feb 2012 04:20:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: paul canning http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/1220/comment-page-1#comment-265087 paul canning Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:23:22 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=1220#comment-265087 OK :} I take your point, but I'm just not seeing any acknowledgment of you guys and it's you and your sources who are risking everything - underlined even more by the latest threats to 'independent media' (which backhandedly are a compliment) rather than the CNN's/HuffPost's. Even with the G8, and that was a direct lift from the No. 10 Twitter: source, Sokwanele. On those CNN comments - yes! I have been scanning comments on US news reports and the ignorance is breathtaking. This is why I keep pressing the liberals in US to cover yourselves - because what you're doing is astonishing and heroic.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('265087','paul canning'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('265087','paul canning','OK :} I take your point, but I\'m just not seeing any acknowledgment of you guys and it\'s you and your sources who are risking everything - underlined even more by the latest threats to \'independent media\' (which backhandedly are a compliment) rather than the CNN\'s\/HuffPost\'s. Even with the G8, and that was a direct lift from the No. 10 Twitter: source, Sokwanele.\r\n\r\nOn those CNN comments - yes! I have been scanning comments on US news reports and the ignorance is breathtaking. This is why I keep pressing the liberals in US to cover yourselves - because what you\'re doing is astonishing and heroic.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> OK :} I take your point, but I’m just not seeing any acknowledgment of you guys and it’s you and your sources who are risking everything – underlined even more by the latest threats to ‘independent media’ (which backhandedly are a compliment) rather than the CNN’s/HuffPost’s. Even with the G8, and that was a direct lift from the No. 10 Twitter: source, Sokwanele.

On those CNN comments – yes! I have been scanning comments on US news reports and the ignorance is breathtaking. This is why I keep pressing the liberals in US to cover yourselves – because what you’re doing is astonishing and heroic.

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]]> By: Sokwanele http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/1220/comment-page-1#comment-265041 Sokwanele Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:27:09 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=1220#comment-265041 Hi Paul - don't be angry. The images we published were widely circulated on email - in fact, I received them from one of our activists, from JAG and also from a third source all on the same day. There's a big network of people sharing and distributing info as widely as they can so there's no telling who CNN may have received them from. We don't worry too much about being credited (although it would obviously be nice if we were the first source) - our bigger concern is ensuring the stories are told and heard. I had a look at the CNN story - some of the comments being left are disconcerting and wildly inaccurate, to say the least! That's what got me angry! Hope.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('265041','Sokwanele'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('265041','Sokwanele','Hi Paul - don\'t be angry. The images we published were widely circulated on email - in fact, I received them from one of our activists, from JAG and also from a third source all on the same day. There\'s a big network of people sharing and distributing info as widely as they can so there\'s no telling who CNN may have received them from. We don\'t worry too much about being credited (although it would obviously be nice if we were the first source) - our bigger concern is ensuring the stories are told and heard. I had a look at the CNN story - some of the comments being left are disconcerting and wildly inaccurate, to say the least! That\'s what got me angry! Hope.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> Hi Paul – don’t be angry. The images we published were widely circulated on email – in fact, I received them from one of our activists, from JAG and also from a third source all on the same day. There’s a big network of people sharing and distributing info as widely as they can so there’s no telling who CNN may have received them from. We don’t worry too much about being credited (although it would obviously be nice if we were the first source) – our bigger concern is ensuring the stories are told and heard. I had a look at the CNN story – some of the comments being left are disconcerting and wildly inaccurate, to say the least! That’s what got me angry! Hope.
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]]> By: paul canning http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/1220/comment-page-1#comment-265005 paul canning Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:22:58 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=1220#comment-265005 I could spit. CNN have taken your photos and made a story - about white farmers. This was picked up today and ran on the front page of HuffingtonPost (which is now a bigger online news source than the Drudge Report). I have told them how angry I am - nowhere is their any acknowledgment of Sokwanele. http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/africa/07/15/zimbabwe.farmers/index.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/15/mugabe-allies-terrorize-f_n_112960.html<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('265005','paul canning'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('265005','paul canning','I could spit.\r\n\r\nCNN have taken your photos and made a story - about white farmers.\r\n\r\nThis was picked up today and ran on the front page of HuffingtonPost (which is now a bigger online news source than the Drudge Report).\r\n\r\nI have told them how angry I am - nowhere is their any acknowledgment of Sokwanele.\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.cnn.com\/2008\/WORLD\/africa\/07\/15\/zimbabwe.farmers\/index.html\r\nhttp:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/2008\/07\/15\/mugabe-allies-terrorize-f_n_112960.html'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> I could spit.

CNN have taken your photos and made a story – about white farmers.

This was picked up today and ran on the front page of HuffingtonPost (which is now a bigger online news source than the Drudge Report).

I have told them how angry I am – nowhere is their any acknowledgment of Sokwanele.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/africa/07/15/zimbabwe.farmers/index.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/15/mugabe-allies-terrorize-f_n_112960.html

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]]> By: True Grit http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/1220/comment-page-1#comment-264889 True Grit Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:18:58 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=1220#comment-264889 From Condoleeza Rice, US Secretary of State's moving speech to the AGOA Forum yesterday: "...more than any two peoples anywhere in the world, the American people and the people of Africa share a lasting common bond. It was the stolen sons and daughters of Africa who showed America the true promise of our independence - the true meaning of what the ringing phrase 'all men are created equal' had to mean. It was Africa's struggle for liberation half a century ago that inspired the struggle for justice among descendents of Africa in my country and in my hometown. And in this new century it will be the partnership between your nations and ours, between your peoples and ours, that will enable all the people of Africa to achieve the hope and the respect and the justice that they deserve." "Now this is not to say that there are not still major challenges. There are, as we see in the heartbreaking plight of the Zimbabwean people. In the Mugabe regime we see the page of history that Africa must turn. A leader for independence, who inherited a nation full of promise, but which has devolved into a tyranny that values nothing but power..."<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('264889','True Grit'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('264889','True Grit','From Condoleeza Rice, US Secretary of State\'s\r\nmoving speech to the AGOA Forum yesterday:\r\n\r\n\"...more than any two peoples anywhere in the world, the American people and the people of Africa share a lasting common bond. It was the stolen sons and daughters of Africa who showed America the true promise of our independence -\r\nthe true meaning of what the ringing phrase\r\n\'all men are created equal\' had to mean. It was Africa\'s struggle for liberation half a century ago that inspired the struggle for justice among descendents of Africa in my country and in my hometown. And in this new century it will be the partnership between your nations and ours, between your peoples and ours, that will enable all the people of Africa to achieve the hope and the respect and the justice that they deserve.\"\r\n\r\n\"Now this is not to say that there are not still major challenges. There are, as we see in the heartbreaking plight of the Zimbabwean people. In the Mugabe regime we see the page of history that Africa must turn. A leader for independence, who inherited a nation full of promise, but which has devolved into a tyranny that values nothing but power...\"'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> From Condoleeza Rice, US Secretary of State’s
moving speech to the AGOA Forum yesterday:

“…more than any two peoples anywhere in the world, the American people and the people of Africa share a lasting common bond. It was the stolen sons and daughters of Africa who showed America the true promise of our independence -
the true meaning of what the ringing phrase
‘all men are created equal’ had to mean. It was Africa’s struggle for liberation half a century ago that inspired the struggle for justice among descendents of Africa in my country and in my hometown. And in this new century it will be the partnership between your nations and ours, between your peoples and ours, that will enable all the people of Africa to achieve the hope and the respect and the justice that they deserve.”

“Now this is not to say that there are not still major challenges. There are, as we see in the heartbreaking plight of the Zimbabwean people. In the Mugabe regime we see the page of history that Africa must turn. A leader for independence, who inherited a nation full of promise, but which has devolved into a tyranny that values nothing but power…”

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]]> By: its-not-ok http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/1220/comment-page-1#comment-264882 its-not-ok Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:06:16 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=1220#comment-264882 To reiterate comments by others, I am EXTREMELY concerned that any talks resulting in ANY agreement other than a TRANSITIONAL GOVERNMENT which leads to critically required CONSTITUTIONAL AMMENDMENTS [limiting Presidential powers to the absolute minimum], a complete and transparent revamp of the VOTERS ROLL and fresh ELECTIONS within a specific timeframe, RUN and ORGANISED by a body totally independent of the political parties contesting, with free access to all and any international monitors, will deny the people of Zimbabwe their legitimate right to democracy. Anything less than this will be a travesty of all justice and morality and will mean that all that have recently suffered and died will have been in vain.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('264882','its-not-ok'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('264882','its-not-ok','To reiterate comments by others, I am EXTREMELY concerned that any talks resulting in ANY agreement other than a TRANSITIONAL GOVERNMENT which leads to critically required CONSTITUTIONAL AMMENDMENTS [limiting Presidential powers to the absolute minimum], a complete and transparent revamp of the VOTERS ROLL and fresh ELECTIONS within a specific timeframe, RUN and ORGANISED by a body totally independent of the political parties contesting, with free access to all and any international monitors, will deny the people of Zimbabwe their legitimate right to democracy. \r\nAnything less than this will be a travesty of all justice and morality and will mean that all that have recently suffered and died will have been in vain.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> To reiterate comments by others, I am EXTREMELY concerned that any talks resulting in ANY agreement other than a TRANSITIONAL GOVERNMENT which leads to critically required CONSTITUTIONAL AMMENDMENTS [limiting Presidential powers to the absolute minimum], a complete and transparent revamp of the VOTERS ROLL and fresh ELECTIONS within a specific timeframe, RUN and ORGANISED by a body totally independent of the political parties contesting, with free access to all and any international monitors, will deny the people of Zimbabwe their legitimate right to democracy.
Anything less than this will be a travesty of all justice and morality and will mean that all that have recently suffered and died will have been in vain.
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