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	<title>Comments on: Memorandum of Understanding between the Zimbabwe African National Union (Patriotic Front) and the two Movement for Democratic Change formations</title>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Zimbabwean people have suffered enough so MDC should deal with this matter wisely. Talks fine but dont be swallowed please like ZAPU&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;271555&#039;,&#039;Susan&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;271555&#039;,&#039;Susan&#039;,&#039;The Zimbabwean people have suffered enough so MDC should deal with this matter wisely. Talks fine but dont be swallowed please like ZAPU&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Zimbabwean people have suffered enough so MDC should deal with this matter wisely. Talks fine but dont be swallowed please like ZAPU
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		<title>By: Matibili</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matibili</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 22:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The two MDC formations are a sign of the potential of impending problems before the talks even start. Wonder what each stands for in these crucial times.

This smacks of the traits similar to what we saw during the split within the Patriotic Front of the late 70s.

Which later led to further bloodshed after the &#039;independence&#039; celebrations and all pomp and ceremony.

Wonder how serious the disagreements are to warrant such an embarrassing state of affairs and the expression &#039;The two MDC formations.&#039;

We need urgent MDC maturity before this crucial stage ends up being a triad of political gymnastics and a display of disunity for a nation beset with intellectual rather than humane leaders.

Leaves a sour taste in my mouth/mind!?&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;271543&#039;,&#039;Matibili&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;271543&#039;,&#039;Matibili&#039;,&#039;The two MDC formations are a sign of the potential of impending problems before the talks even start. Wonder what each stands for in these crucial times.\r\n\r\nThis smacks of the traits similar to what we saw during the split within the Patriotic Front of the late 70s.\r\n\r\nWhich later led to further bloodshed after the \&#039;independence\&#039; celebrations and all pomp and ceremony.\r\n\r\nWonder how serious the disagreements are to warrant such an embarrassing state of affairs and the expression \&#039;The two MDC formations.\&#039;\r\n\r\nWe need urgent MDC maturity before this crucial stage ends up being a triad of political gymnastics and a display of disunity for a nation beset with intellectual rather than humane leaders.\r\n\r\nLeaves a sour taste in my mouth\/mind!?&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The two MDC formations are a sign of the potential of impending problems before the talks even start. Wonder what each stands for in these crucial times.</p>
<p>This smacks of the traits similar to what we saw during the split within the Patriotic Front of the late 70s.</p>
<p>Which later led to further bloodshed after the &#8216;independence&#8217; celebrations and all pomp and ceremony.</p>
<p>Wonder how serious the disagreements are to warrant such an embarrassing state of affairs and the expression &#8216;The two MDC formations.&#8217;</p>
<p>We need urgent MDC maturity before this crucial stage ends up being a triad of political gymnastics and a display of disunity for a nation beset with intellectual rather than humane leaders.</p>
<p>Leaves a sour taste in my mouth/mind!?
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('271543','Matibili'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('271543','Matibili','The two MDC formations are a sign of the potential of impending problems before the talks even start. Wonder what each stands for in these crucial times.\r\n\r\nThis smacks of the traits similar to what we saw during the split within the Patriotic Front of the late 70s.\r\n\r\nWhich later led to further bloodshed after the \'independence\' celebrations and all pomp and ceremony.\r\n\r\nWonder how serious the disagreements are to warrant such an embarrassing state of affairs and the expression \'The two MDC formations.\'\r\n\r\nWe need urgent MDC maturity before this crucial stage ends up being a triad of political gymnastics and a display of disunity for a nation beset with intellectual rather than humane leaders.\r\n\r\nLeaves a sour taste in my mouth\/mind!?'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: Matibili</title>
		<link>http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/1255/comment-page-1#comment-271536</link>
		<dc:creator>Matibili</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the MDC is signing an agreement with zanu. 

Well it will definitely go this way. Tsvangirai will be used to evade the pending sanctions. The rest of the world will see this as things normalising and give a sigh of relief.
Africa especially the Zimbabweans will be flabagasted by this sham. Some will see mugabe as shrewd and Tsvangirai as stupid.

How will he reverse what he has already bound himself to.

To whom is mugabe going to be accountable to for the atrocities he perpetrated during his early reign until now.

And we see him signing an agreement of national unity. Now Mr Tsvangirai, with whom has mugabe united with? 

Remember he eliminates those who are against him. I hope this is not a treacherous trap.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;271536&#039;,&#039;Matibili&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;271536&#039;,&#039;Matibili&#039;,&#039;So the MDC is signing an agreement with zanu. \r\n\r\nWell it will definitely go this way. Tsvangirai will be used to evade the pending sanctions. The rest of the world will see this as things normalising and give a sigh of relief.\r\nAfrica especially the Zimbabweans will be flabagasted by this sham. Some will see mugabe as shrewd and Tsvangirai as stupid.\r\n\r\nHow will he reverse what he has already bound himself to.\r\n\r\nTo whom is mugabe going to be accountable to for the atrocities he perpetrated during his early reign until now.\r\n\r\nAnd we see him signing an agreement of national unity. Now Mr Tsvangirai, with whom has mugabe united with? \r\n\r\nRemember he eliminates those who are against him. I hope this is not a treacherous trap.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the MDC is signing an agreement with zanu. </p>
<p>Well it will definitely go this way. Tsvangirai will be used to evade the pending sanctions. The rest of the world will see this as things normalising and give a sigh of relief.<br />
Africa especially the Zimbabweans will be flabagasted by this sham. Some will see mugabe as shrewd and Tsvangirai as stupid.</p>
<p>How will he reverse what he has already bound himself to.</p>
<p>To whom is mugabe going to be accountable to for the atrocities he perpetrated during his early reign until now.</p>
<p>And we see him signing an agreement of national unity. Now Mr Tsvangirai, with whom has mugabe united with? </p>
<p>Remember he eliminates those who are against him. I hope this is not a treacherous trap.
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		<title>By: Chenayi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chenayi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope  all goes well for Zimbabwe after the talks between Mugabe and President Tsvangirai. As a lady in her late teens looking forward to going for University I really want Zimbabwe to be a place full of justice, peace and sovereignity. Truly speaking Mugabe you have paralysed us!!! Wakura pfungwa dzako dzasakara chibvuma kusiira vechidiki nyika ( You are now old and this is affecting your line of thinking, accept the fact that you can nolonger rule this country we  now want CHANGE). President Tsvangirai thank you for being man enough and Mugabe you are just but a coward! Mugabe you are leaving your children a bad omen or maybe they are not your children thats why you are not the least worried. 

    WE LOVE YOU PRESIDENT TSVANGIRAI AND WE 
     WILL STAND BY YOU ALWAYS!!!&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;271533&#039;,&#039;Chenayi&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;271533&#039;,&#039;Chenayi&#039;,&#039;I hope  all goes well for Zimbabwe after the talks between Mugabe and President Tsvangirai. As a lady in her late teens looking forward to going for University I really want Zimbabwe to be a place full of justice, peace and sovereignity. Truly speaking Mugabe you have paralysed us!!! Wakura pfungwa dzako dzasakara chibvuma kusiira vechidiki nyika ( You are now old and this is affecting your line of thinking, accept the fact that you can nolonger rule this country we  now want CHANGE). President Tsvangirai thank you for being man enough and Mugabe you are just but a coward! Mugabe you are leaving your children a bad omen or maybe they are not your children thats why you are not the least worried. \r\n\r\n    WE LOVE YOU PRESIDENT TSVANGIRAI AND WE \r\n     WILL STAND BY YOU ALWAYS!!!&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope  all goes well for Zimbabwe after the talks between Mugabe and President Tsvangirai. As a lady in her late teens looking forward to going for University I really want Zimbabwe to be a place full of justice, peace and sovereignity. Truly speaking Mugabe you have paralysed us!!! Wakura pfungwa dzako dzasakara chibvuma kusiira vechidiki nyika ( You are now old and this is affecting your line of thinking, accept the fact that you can nolonger rule this country we  now want CHANGE). President Tsvangirai thank you for being man enough and Mugabe you are just but a coward! Mugabe you are leaving your children a bad omen or maybe they are not your children thats why you are not the least worried. </p>
<p>    WE LOVE YOU PRESIDENT TSVANGIRAI AND WE<br />
     WILL STAND BY YOU ALWAYS!!!
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		<title>By: Refugesta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Refugesta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is actually nothing to discuss with murderous human rights violators. The people of Zimbabwe have the right to justice. Ask any right thinking person if he thinks Mugabe has any place in the leadership of a new Zimbabwe. 
The answer is NO!!!
Consider this quoted from the MOU
&quot;Acknowledging that we have an obligation of establishing a framework of working together in an inclusive government&quot; 
A government inclusive of who? What is an inclusive government anyway? Who decides who will be included. What ever happened to a democratically electd government. The will of the people was expressed clearly despite threats in March. Now we will have a government agreed upon by three men sitting in a room. The response is a simple NO. 

Let there be a referundum on the issue of &quot;an inclusive government&quot;. Let the people be heard. Rule by the people for the people, People! Let us hold fast and not move an inch. These people are murderers they can not be trusted.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;269969&#039;,&#039;Refugesta&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;269969&#039;,&#039;Refugesta&#039;,&#039;There is actually nothing to discuss with murderous human rights violators. The people of Zimbabwe have the right to justice. Ask any right thinking person if he thinks Mugabe has any place in the leadership of a new Zimbabwe. \r\nThe answer is NO!!!\r\nConsider this quoted from the MOU\r\n\&quot;Acknowledging that we have an obligation of establishing a framework of working together in an inclusive government\&quot; \r\nA government inclusive of who? What is an inclusive government anyway? Who decides who will be included. What ever happened to a democratically electd government. The will of the people was expressed clearly despite threats in March. Now we will have a government agreed upon by three men sitting in a room. The response is a simple NO. \r\n\r\nLet there be a referundum on the issue of \&quot;an inclusive government\&quot;. Let the people be heard. Rule by the people for the people, People! Let us hold fast and not move an inch. These people are murderers they can not be trusted.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is actually nothing to discuss with murderous human rights violators. The people of Zimbabwe have the right to justice. Ask any right thinking person if he thinks Mugabe has any place in the leadership of a new Zimbabwe.<br />
The answer is NO!!!<br />
Consider this quoted from the MOU<br />
&#8220;Acknowledging that we have an obligation of establishing a framework of working together in an inclusive government&#8221;<br />
A government inclusive of who? What is an inclusive government anyway? Who decides who will be included. What ever happened to a democratically electd government. The will of the people was expressed clearly despite threats in March. Now we will have a government agreed upon by three men sitting in a room. The response is a simple NO. </p>
<p>Let there be a referundum on the issue of &#8220;an inclusive government&#8221;. Let the people be heard. Rule by the people for the people, People! Let us hold fast and not move an inch. These people are murderers they can not be trusted.
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		<title>By: Malcolm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Malcolm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, I note in the MOU agenda one missing point - salaries for double the bodies in the halls of power. I&#039;m sure Mrs Tsvangirai will want to be better accomodated (she&#039;ll have to have a more palatial and competitive abode to have Grace round for tea), More Mercedes, more shuffling of farm ownerships, more expense accounts etc etc. More for the Zimbabwean taxpayer to fork out, or more to be siphoned off from aid.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;269960&#039;,&#039;Malcolm&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;269960&#039;,&#039;Malcolm&#039;,&#039;By the way, I note in the MOU agenda one missing point - salaries for double the bodies in the halls of power. I\&#039;m sure Mrs Tsvangirai will want to be better accomodated (she\&#039;ll have to have a more palatial and competitive abode to have Grace round for tea), More Mercedes, more shuffling of farm ownerships, more expense accounts etc etc. More for the Zimbabwean taxpayer to fork out, or more to be siphoned off from aid.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, I note in the MOU agenda one missing point &#8211; salaries for double the bodies in the halls of power. I&#8217;m sure Mrs Tsvangirai will want to be better accomodated (she&#8217;ll have to have a more palatial and competitive abode to have Grace round for tea), More Mercedes, more shuffling of farm ownerships, more expense accounts etc etc. More for the Zimbabwean taxpayer to fork out, or more to be siphoned off from aid.
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		<title>By: Malcolm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Malcolm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wallpapering the cracks! Is it possible that Mugabe will use his pen in lieu of his favoured and power of the gun. Tsvangirai has bowed to violence of the militia and pawned peacefull democracy. Somebody will argue that this is an African solution to an African problem. Is it? Seems to me like this is an African politician&#039;s solution to an African politiacian&#039;s problem. Have the supporters of MDC given the party the mandate to enter power sharing deals, and this point is particularly relevant if the results of first round election are taken as a NO MUGABE cry. Has MDC also taken into account any voice of the diaspora, whose support was sought and given and whose voting rights the party argued for, albiet without success. They, the millions of exiled Zimbabweans, were considered to be a substantial factor in MDC arguments. Are they and the home based democratic Zimbabweans to be sidelined whilst politicians wrangle personal deals amongst themselves. Mugabe gets the best of the deal, in the circumstances. MDC hieracy is placated and it&#039;s pre-election policies will be spinned but sacrificed nonetheless. Mbeki is redeemed. SADC and the AU will claim an image as a resourcefull overseeing body. The people&#039;s view just doesn&#039;t seem to feature in all this &#039;saving&#039;. The Memorandum of Understanding simply outlines issues. It awaits how they are going to be individually prioritised and sidestepped.

I am sceptical, on past showings of African politics. This is not to say that things are not evolving, slowly. I do not think that any Zimbabwe crisis resolution along the lines being taken will herald any major change for the better. There is, I fear, scant more than hope.

Tsvangirai will be used to ellict Western support, and he&#039;ll be lucky if he draws into the Zimbabwean ecconomy as much as he believes he would have got if Mugabe was not his bedfellow. I anticipate a slow but inexorable development of anti western tirades coming from a ZANU/MDC camp of &#039;broken promises&#039; accusations. I await the eventual demise of MDC as it&#039;s ethos is eroded starting from the bottom as counillors and MP are bought off one by one until finally it comes to light how much those at the top have stuck their fingers into the till.

Worse, in the regional outlook, power-sharing coming so close on the Kenyan deal sends a strong message to other African governments on how to maintain a grip on power. When your popularity starts to drop off and electoral defeat is on the cards, simply hack a few villagers, wave some guns about. Somebody will come along and broker a deal of protection and continuance of power, and wallpaper over any cracks.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;269921&#039;,&#039;Malcolm&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;269921&#039;,&#039;Malcolm&#039;,&#039;Wallpapering the cracks! Is it possible that Mugabe will use his pen in lieu of his favoured and power of the gun. Tsvangirai has bowed to violence of the militia and pawned peacefull democracy. Somebody will argue that this is an African solution to an African problem. Is it? Seems to me like this is an African politician\&#039;s solution to an African politiacian\&#039;s problem. Have the supporters of MDC given the party the mandate to enter power sharing deals, and this point is particularly relevant if the results of first round election are taken as a NO MUGABE cry. Has MDC also taken into account any voice of the diaspora, whose support was sought and given and whose voting rights the party argued for, albiet without success. They, the millions of exiled Zimbabweans, were considered to be a substantial factor in MDC arguments. Are they and the home based democratic Zimbabweans to be sidelined whilst politicians wrangle personal deals amongst themselves. Mugabe gets the best of the deal, in the circumstances. MDC hieracy is placated and it\&#039;s pre-election policies will be spinned but sacrificed nonetheless. Mbeki is redeemed. SADC and the AU will claim an image as a resourcefull overseeing body. The people\&#039;s view just doesn\&#039;t seem to feature in all this \&#039;saving\&#039;. The Memorandum of Understanding simply outlines issues. It awaits how they are going to be individually prioritised and sidestepped.\r\n\r\nI am sceptical, on past showings of African politics. This is not to say that things are not evolving, slowly. I do not think that any Zimbabwe crisis resolution along the lines being taken will herald any major change for the better. There is, I fear, scant more than hope.\r\n\r\nTsvangirai will be used to ellict Western support, and he\&#039;ll be lucky if he draws into the Zimbabwean ecconomy as much as he believes he would have got if Mugabe was not his bedfellow. I anticipate a slow but inexorable development of anti western tirades coming from a ZANU\/MDC camp of \&#039;broken promises\&#039; accusations. I await the eventual demise of MDC as it\&#039;s ethos is eroded starting from the bottom as counillors and MP are bought off one by one until finally it comes to light how much those at the top have stuck their fingers into the till.\r\n\r\nWorse, in the regional outlook, power-sharing coming so close on the Kenyan deal sends a strong message to other African governments on how to maintain a grip on power. When your popularity starts to drop off and electoral defeat is on the cards, simply hack a few villagers, wave some guns about. Somebody will come along and broker a deal of protection and continuance of power, and wallpaper over any cracks.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wallpapering the cracks! Is it possible that Mugabe will use his pen in lieu of his favoured and power of the gun. Tsvangirai has bowed to violence of the militia and pawned peacefull democracy. Somebody will argue that this is an African solution to an African problem. Is it? Seems to me like this is an African politician&#8217;s solution to an African politiacian&#8217;s problem. Have the supporters of MDC given the party the mandate to enter power sharing deals, and this point is particularly relevant if the results of first round election are taken as a NO MUGABE cry. Has MDC also taken into account any voice of the diaspora, whose support was sought and given and whose voting rights the party argued for, albiet without success. They, the millions of exiled Zimbabweans, were considered to be a substantial factor in MDC arguments. Are they and the home based democratic Zimbabweans to be sidelined whilst politicians wrangle personal deals amongst themselves. Mugabe gets the best of the deal, in the circumstances. MDC hieracy is placated and it&#8217;s pre-election policies will be spinned but sacrificed nonetheless. Mbeki is redeemed. SADC and the AU will claim an image as a resourcefull overseeing body. The people&#8217;s view just doesn&#8217;t seem to feature in all this &#8216;saving&#8217;. The Memorandum of Understanding simply outlines issues. It awaits how they are going to be individually prioritised and sidestepped.</p>
<p>I am sceptical, on past showings of African politics. This is not to say that things are not evolving, slowly. I do not think that any Zimbabwe crisis resolution along the lines being taken will herald any major change for the better. There is, I fear, scant more than hope.</p>
<p>Tsvangirai will be used to ellict Western support, and he&#8217;ll be lucky if he draws into the Zimbabwean ecconomy as much as he believes he would have got if Mugabe was not his bedfellow. I anticipate a slow but inexorable development of anti western tirades coming from a ZANU/MDC camp of &#8216;broken promises&#8217; accusations. I await the eventual demise of MDC as it&#8217;s ethos is eroded starting from the bottom as counillors and MP are bought off one by one until finally it comes to light how much those at the top have stuck their fingers into the till.</p>
<p>Worse, in the regional outlook, power-sharing coming so close on the Kenyan deal sends a strong message to other African governments on how to maintain a grip on power. When your popularity starts to drop off and electoral defeat is on the cards, simply hack a few villagers, wave some guns about. Somebody will come along and broker a deal of protection and continuance of power, and wallpaper over any cracks.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('269921','Malcolm'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('269921','Malcolm','Wallpapering the cracks! Is it possible that Mugabe will use his pen in lieu of his favoured and power of the gun. Tsvangirai has bowed to violence of the militia and pawned peacefull democracy. Somebody will argue that this is an African solution to an African problem. Is it? Seems to me like this is an African politician\'s solution to an African politiacian\'s problem. Have the supporters of MDC given the party the mandate to enter power sharing deals, and this point is particularly relevant if the results of first round election are taken as a NO MUGABE cry. Has MDC also taken into account any voice of the diaspora, whose support was sought and given and whose voting rights the party argued for, albiet without success. They, the millions of exiled Zimbabweans, were considered to be a substantial factor in MDC arguments. Are they and the home based democratic Zimbabweans to be sidelined whilst politicians wrangle personal deals amongst themselves. Mugabe gets the best of the deal, in the circumstances. MDC hieracy is placated and it\'s pre-election policies will be spinned but sacrificed nonetheless. Mbeki is redeemed. SADC and the AU will claim an image as a resourcefull overseeing body. The people\'s view just doesn\'t seem to feature in all this \'saving\'. The Memorandum of Understanding simply outlines issues. It awaits how they are going to be individually prioritised and sidestepped.\r\n\r\nI am sceptical, on past showings of African politics. This is not to say that things are not evolving, slowly. I do not think that any Zimbabwe crisis resolution along the lines being taken will herald any major change for the better. There is, I fear, scant more than hope.\r\n\r\nTsvangirai will be used to ellict Western support, and he\'ll be lucky if he draws into the Zimbabwean ecconomy as much as he believes he would have got if Mugabe was not his bedfellow. I anticipate a slow but inexorable development of anti western tirades coming from a ZANU\/MDC camp of \'broken promises\' accusations. I await the eventual demise of MDC as it\'s ethos is eroded starting from the bottom as counillors and MP are bought off one by one until finally it comes to light how much those at the top have stuck their fingers into the till.\r\n\r\nWorse, in the regional outlook, power-sharing coming so close on the Kenyan deal sends a strong message to other African governments on how to maintain a grip on power. When your popularity starts to drop off and electoral defeat is on the cards, simply hack a few villagers, wave some guns about. Somebody will come along and broker a deal of protection and continuance of power, and wallpaper over any cracks.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>4 million of us who have been fortunate enough to escape the country are still very much concerned about where this is all going, and if we will ever be able to come home. 

My plea to the MDC is - when you negotiate details on a new election, please insist that Zimbabweans overseas be allowed to vote.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;269910&#039;,&#039;Graham&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;269910&#039;,&#039;Graham&#039;,&#039;4 million of us who have been fortunate enough to escape the country are still very much concerned about where this is all going, and if we will ever be able to come home. \r\n\r\nMy plea to the MDC is - when you negotiate details on a new election, please insist that Zimbabweans overseas be allowed to vote.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>4 million of us who have been fortunate enough to escape the country are still very much concerned about where this is all going, and if we will ever be able to come home. </p>
<p>My plea to the MDC is &#8211; when you negotiate details on a new election, please insist that Zimbabweans overseas be allowed to vote.
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		<title>By: Prosperous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prosperous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of us Zimbabweans are suspicious of Zanu PF shaking hands with MDC.  We do not like the looks of things at all.

I hope MDC will stand their ground with the rest of the issues.

At first you said no talks if Mugabe goes ahead with the sham election, now you seem to be signing to talk.  Mugabe is clearly not interested in anything but himself, not the zimbabwe people and only obsessed on trying to outwit the western world.

Please, MDC, be wise!  If you had not signed, the economic collapse would have kicked Zanu PF out.  

Lots of blood was shed, please remember that, please remember too from the past that Zanu PF will always try and swallow the opposition, Nkomo, is a good example, after he killed Nkomo&#039;s followers, he made Nkomo second in charge.

In my opinion, the only only only reason that Zanu PF are un-sincerely signing for talks and negotiations is so that the travel bans can be lifted, not because they are interested in what the Zimbabwean people want.  

Its not an historic moment, it is clear to see that Zanu PF are being superficial about this whole thing, hence MDC people are still living in the bush, fearing for their lives.  

Morgan, please dont eat with your enemy, think of the people starving.  Rather sit  by and watch him eat.  

We all smell a rat!!!&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;269905&#039;,&#039;Prosperous&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;269905&#039;,&#039;Prosperous&#039;,&#039;Most of us Zimbabweans are suspicious of Zanu PF shaking hands with MDC.  We do not like the looks of things at all.\r\n\r\nI hope MDC will stand their ground with the rest of the issues.\r\n\r\nAt first you said no talks if Mugabe goes ahead with the sham election, now you seem to be signing to talk.  Mugabe is clearly not interested in anything but himself, not the zimbabwe people and only obsessed on trying to outwit the western world.\r\n\r\nPlease, MDC, be wise!  If you had not signed, the economic collapse would have kicked Zanu PF out.  \r\n\r\nLots of blood was shed, please remember that, please remember too from the past that Zanu PF will always try and swallow the opposition, Nkomo, is a good example, after he killed Nkomo\&#039;s followers, he made Nkomo second in charge.\r\n\r\nIn my opinion, the only only only reason that Zanu PF are un-sincerely signing for talks and negotiations is so that the travel bans can be lifted, not because they are interested in what the Zimbabwean people want.  \r\n\r\nIts not an historic moment, it is clear to see that Zanu PF are being superficial about this whole thing, hence MDC people are still living in the bush, fearing for their lives.  \r\n\r\nMorgan, please dont eat with your enemy, think of the people starving.  Rather sit  by and watch him eat.  \r\n\r\nWe all smell a rat!!!&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of us Zimbabweans are suspicious of Zanu PF shaking hands with MDC.  We do not like the looks of things at all.</p>
<p>I hope MDC will stand their ground with the rest of the issues.</p>
<p>At first you said no talks if Mugabe goes ahead with the sham election, now you seem to be signing to talk.  Mugabe is clearly not interested in anything but himself, not the zimbabwe people and only obsessed on trying to outwit the western world.</p>
<p>Please, MDC, be wise!  If you had not signed, the economic collapse would have kicked Zanu PF out.  </p>
<p>Lots of blood was shed, please remember that, please remember too from the past that Zanu PF will always try and swallow the opposition, Nkomo, is a good example, after he killed Nkomo&#8217;s followers, he made Nkomo second in charge.</p>
<p>In my opinion, the only only only reason that Zanu PF are un-sincerely signing for talks and negotiations is so that the travel bans can be lifted, not because they are interested in what the Zimbabwean people want.  </p>
<p>Its not an historic moment, it is clear to see that Zanu PF are being superficial about this whole thing, hence MDC people are still living in the bush, fearing for their lives.  </p>
<p>Morgan, please dont eat with your enemy, think of the people starving.  Rather sit  by and watch him eat.  </p>
<p>We all smell a rat!!!
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		<title>By: mama</title>
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		<dc:creator>mama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to know where one puts their anger the suppression of it will only let it simmer again and will eventually boil over....Yes we can put it aside for now but there has to be a way for ordinary folk to re-dress their pain and anger and all that has happened....time heals all wounds as they say but unless lessons are learnt from the mistakes we will just repeat them...I am torn between being hopeful and being realistic..the hope comes from the trying the realism comes from the past and like you I think we all are suspicious...but I saw a group that prays in North Carolina and their prayers are &quot;Zimbabwe Will Be Saved&quot; their positiveness has lead me to dispel my doubts and focus on the positive outcome....Ever noticed how God answers our prayers but usually not in the ways we imagined...&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;269899&#039;,&#039;mama&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;269899&#039;,&#039;mama&#039;,&#039;I want to know where one puts their anger the suppression of it will only let it simmer again and will eventually boil over....Yes we can put it aside for now but there has to be a way for ordinary folk to re-dress their pain and anger and all that has happened....time heals all wounds as they say but unless lessons are learnt from the mistakes we will just repeat them...I am torn between being hopeful and being realistic..the hope comes from the trying the realism comes from the past and like you I think we all are suspicious...but I saw a group that prays in North Carolina and their prayers are \&quot;Zimbabwe Will Be Saved\&quot; their positiveness has lead me to dispel my doubts and focus on the positive outcome....Ever noticed how God answers our prayers but usually not in the ways we imagined...&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to know where one puts their anger the suppression of it will only let it simmer again and will eventually boil over&#8230;.Yes we can put it aside for now but there has to be a way for ordinary folk to re-dress their pain and anger and all that has happened&#8230;.time heals all wounds as they say but unless lessons are learnt from the mistakes we will just repeat them&#8230;I am torn between being hopeful and being realistic..the hope comes from the trying the realism comes from the past and like you I think we all are suspicious&#8230;but I saw a group that prays in North Carolina and their prayers are &#8220;Zimbabwe Will Be Saved&#8221; their positiveness has lead me to dispel my doubts and focus on the positive outcome&#8230;.Ever noticed how God answers our prayers but usually not in the ways we imagined&#8230;
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('269899','mama'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('269899','mama','I want to know where one puts their anger the suppression of it will only let it simmer again and will eventually boil over....Yes we can put it aside for now but there has to be a way for ordinary folk to re-dress their pain and anger and all that has happened....time heals all wounds as they say but unless lessons are learnt from the mistakes we will just repeat them...I am torn between being hopeful and being realistic..the hope comes from the trying the realism comes from the past and like you I think we all are suspicious...but I saw a group that prays in North Carolina and their prayers are \&quot;Zimbabwe Will Be Saved\&quot; their positiveness has lead me to dispel my doubts and focus on the positive outcome....Ever noticed how God answers our prayers but usually not in the ways we imagined...'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: arachesostufo</title>
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		<dc:creator>arachesostufo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 00:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>free Zimbabwe!

this is my hope frome venice&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;269829&#039;,&#039;arachesostufo&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;269829&#039;,&#039;arachesostufo&#039;,&#039;free Zimbabwe!\r\n\r\nthis is my hope frome venice&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>free Zimbabwe!</p>
<p>this is my hope frome venice
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its a shame&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;269826&#039;,&#039;Anonymous&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;269826&#039;,&#039;Anonymous&#039;,&#039;its a shame&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its a shame
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