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		<title>By: Faraway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Faraway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 02:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This does not make sense, and you should look into it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/25/AR2008072502569.html

If Irag is banished from the Olympics, how on earth is Zimbabwe, Sudan, Burma etc. allowed in?

China should get an earful of complaints via the IOC.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;271540&#039;,&#039;Faraway&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;271540&#039;,&#039;Faraway&#039;,&#039;This does not make sense, and you should look into it.\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/wp-dyn\/content\/article\/2008\/07\/25\/AR2008072502569.html\r\n\r\nIf Irag is banished from the Olympics, how on earth is Zimbabwe, Sudan, Burma etc. allowed in?\r\n\r\nChina should get an earful of complaints via the IOC.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This does not make sense, and you should look into it.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/25/AR2008072502569.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/25/AR2008072502569.html</a></p>
<p>If Irag is banished from the Olympics, how on earth is Zimbabwe, Sudan, Burma etc. allowed in?</p>
<p>China should get an earful of complaints via the IOC.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('271540','Faraway'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('271540','Faraway','This does not make sense, and you should look into it.\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/wp-dyn\/content\/article\/2008\/07\/25\/AR2008072502569.html\r\n\r\nIf Irag is banished from the Olympics, how on earth is Zimbabwe, Sudan, Burma etc. allowed in?\r\n\r\nChina should get an earful of complaints via the IOC.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: Nell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are the issues between the two tendencies in MDC?

The split seemed to come out of nowhere, especially for those of us trying to follow the issue from afar. 

I realize it&#039;s hard since so much of the discussion and decision-making is now taking place out of the public eye, but could Hope or someone post on what their understanding of the issues between the tendencies?&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;271539&#039;,&#039;Nell&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;271539&#039;,&#039;Nell&#039;,&#039;What are the issues between the two tendencies in MDC?\r\n\r\nThe split seemed to come out of nowhere, especially for those of us trying to follow the issue from afar. \r\n\r\nI realize it\&#039;s hard since so much of the discussion and decision-making is now taking place out of the public eye, but could Hope or someone post on what their understanding of the issues between the tendencies?&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are the issues between the two tendencies in MDC?</p>
<p>The split seemed to come out of nowhere, especially for those of us trying to follow the issue from afar. </p>
<p>I realize it&#8217;s hard since so much of the discussion and decision-making is now taking place out of the public eye, but could Hope or someone post on what their understanding of the issues between the tendencies?
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('271539','Nell'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('271539','Nell','What are the issues between the two tendencies in MDC?\r\n\r\nThe split seemed to come out of nowhere, especially for those of us trying to follow the issue from afar. \r\n\r\nI realize it\'s hard since so much of the discussion and decision-making is now taking place out of the public eye, but could Hope or someone post on what their understanding of the issues between the tendencies?'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: Matibili</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matibili</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The CIO of zimbabwe: 

Have been the worst cowards, doing their nocturnal murderous activities. While zanu signs the fake memo of agreement with the MDC, this goes on.

A headman was also part of this!? A community leader being part of a murder! 

While the party for whom he murders is in pretoria signing a pact of peace!?

When will this madness end. Seen from a world WIDE perspective this is a minor event but trust me evil is doing the rounds in the nation and there shall be retribution.

All the points for the Memomorandum of agreement are a smoke screen. The MDC will realise this when it&#039;s too late. They must have researched on the ZAPU experience. 

This time Mbeki is an extension of zanu in SA.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;271538&#039;,&#039;Matibili&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;271538&#039;,&#039;Matibili&#039;,&#039;The CIO of zimbabwe: \r\n\r\nHave been the worst cowards, doing their nocturnal murderous activities. While zanu signs the fake memo of agreement with the MDC, this goes on.\r\n\r\nA headman was also part of this!? A community leader being part of a murder! \r\n\r\nWhile the party for whom he murders is in pretoria signing a pact of peace!?\r\n\r\nWhen will this madness end. Seen from a world WIDE perspective this is a minor event but trust me evil is doing the rounds in the nation and there shall be retribution.\r\n\r\nAll the points for the Memomorandum of agreement are a smoke screen. The MDC will realise this when it\&#039;s too late. They must have researched on the ZAPU experience. \r\n\r\nThis time Mbeki is an extension of zanu in SA.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The CIO of zimbabwe: </p>
<p>Have been the worst cowards, doing their nocturnal murderous activities. While zanu signs the fake memo of agreement with the MDC, this goes on.</p>
<p>A headman was also part of this!? A community leader being part of a murder! </p>
<p>While the party for whom he murders is in pretoria signing a pact of peace!?</p>
<p>When will this madness end. Seen from a world WIDE perspective this is a minor event but trust me evil is doing the rounds in the nation and there shall be retribution.</p>
<p>All the points for the Memomorandum of agreement are a smoke screen. The MDC will realise this when it&#8217;s too late. They must have researched on the ZAPU experience. </p>
<p>This time Mbeki is an extension of zanu in SA.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('271538','Matibili'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('271538','Matibili','The CIO of zimbabwe: \r\n\r\nHave been the worst cowards, doing their nocturnal murderous activities. While zanu signs the fake memo of agreement with the MDC, this goes on.\r\n\r\nA headman was also part of this!? A community leader being part of a murder! \r\n\r\nWhile the party for whom he murders is in pretoria signing a pact of peace!?\r\n\r\nWhen will this madness end. Seen from a world WIDE perspective this is a minor event but trust me evil is doing the rounds in the nation and there shall be retribution.\r\n\r\nAll the points for the Memomorandum of agreement are a smoke screen. The MDC will realise this when it\'s too late. They must have researched on the ZAPU experience. \r\n\r\nThis time Mbeki is an extension of zanu in SA.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: Matibili</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matibili</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s the way to go Austin. 

Anything that legitimises zanu and mugabe should be viewd with the contempt it deserves.

Sounds like Mbeki et al are arm twisting or have arm twisted Tsvangirai. The result will be another shambles of a governmemt. An internationally cosmetic affair which will absolve mugabe and Mbeki of the worst human and political disaster ever seen in Southern Africa.

It will last till they have retired and by then they will will exclaim oops!

And life goes on.

An African problem solved, left for others to correct, while the boil of homophobia, ethnic hate and disorganisation in once prosperous nations simmers to bursting point.

I really think Mbeki is a shrewd contriver. He is capitalising on the cheapest labour from zim, which he can use and discard willy nilly while his bulldog churns them in and out of his country. There must have been an agreement between the two about this otherwise what kind of statesmanship is this.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;271537&#039;,&#039;Matibili&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;271537&#039;,&#039;Matibili&#039;,&#039;That\&#039;s the way to go Austin. \r\n\r\nAnything that legitimises zanu and mugabe should be viewd with the contempt it deserves.\r\n\r\nSounds like Mbeki et al are arm twisting or have arm twisted Tsvangirai. The result will be another shambles of a governmemt. An internationally cosmetic affair which will absolve mugabe and Mbeki of the worst human and political disaster ever seen in Southern Africa.\r\n\r\nIt will last till they have retired and by then they will will exclaim oops!\r\n\r\nAnd life goes on.\r\n\r\nAn African problem solved, left for others to correct, while the boil of homophobia, ethnic hate and disorganisation in once prosperous nations simmers to bursting point.\r\n\r\nI really think Mbeki is a shrewd contriver. He is capitalising on the cheapest labour from zim, which he can use and discard willy nilly while his bulldog churns them in and out of his country. There must have been an agreement between the two about this otherwise what kind of statesmanship is this.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s the way to go Austin. </p>
<p>Anything that legitimises zanu and mugabe should be viewd with the contempt it deserves.</p>
<p>Sounds like Mbeki et al are arm twisting or have arm twisted Tsvangirai. The result will be another shambles of a governmemt. An internationally cosmetic affair which will absolve mugabe and Mbeki of the worst human and political disaster ever seen in Southern Africa.</p>
<p>It will last till they have retired and by then they will will exclaim oops!</p>
<p>And life goes on.</p>
<p>An African problem solved, left for others to correct, while the boil of homophobia, ethnic hate and disorganisation in once prosperous nations simmers to bursting point.</p>
<p>I really think Mbeki is a shrewd contriver. He is capitalising on the cheapest labour from zim, which he can use and discard willy nilly while his bulldog churns them in and out of his country. There must have been an agreement between the two about this otherwise what kind of statesmanship is this.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('271537','Matibili'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('271537','Matibili','That\'s the way to go Austin. \r\n\r\nAnything that legitimises zanu and mugabe should be viewd with the contempt it deserves.\r\n\r\nSounds like Mbeki et al are arm twisting or have arm twisted Tsvangirai. The result will be another shambles of a governmemt. An internationally cosmetic affair which will absolve mugabe and Mbeki of the worst human and political disaster ever seen in Southern Africa.\r\n\r\nIt will last till they have retired and by then they will will exclaim oops!\r\n\r\nAnd life goes on.\r\n\r\nAn African problem solved, left for others to correct, while the boil of homophobia, ethnic hate and disorganisation in once prosperous nations simmers to bursting point.\r\n\r\nI really think Mbeki is a shrewd contriver. He is capitalising on the cheapest labour from zim, which he can use and discard willy nilly while his bulldog churns them in and out of his country. There must have been an agreement between the two about this otherwise what kind of statesmanship is this.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: True Grit</title>
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		<dc:creator>True Grit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gideon Gono has, of course, been very clever.
He has no need to drain his money out of Zimbabwe via Britain or South Africa and then stash it in East Asia. He gets paid directly from Malaysia and keeps it there. Gideon doesn&#039;t like it to be known that he owns a valuable farm in Mazowa, East of Harare from where he quietly ships out flowers such as roses on a large scale direct to Malaysia. Last year he was estimated to be making an incredible US$3m a week from this venture.

Of course the farm was not his in the first place. He did not buy it, he stole it. He may employ a thousand workers and one Dutch farm manager, who are just doing their jobs, but the sweet smell of success is based on an ownership fraud, as is the case with many other farms owned by the Zim mafia which is a favoured clique of Zanu-PF. They are the ones who glide over potholes in Mercedes comfort. They are the ones who live in elegant homes tended by armies of servants, and who feed themselves from well-stocked freezers.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;271529&#039;,&#039;True Grit&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;271529&#039;,&#039;True Grit&#039;,&#039;Gideon Gono has, of course, been very clever.\r\nHe has no need to drain his money out of Zimbabwe via Britain or South Africa and then stash it in East Asia. He gets paid directly from Malaysia and keeps it there. Gideon doesn\&#039;t like it to be known that he owns a valuable farm in Mazowa, East of Harare from where he quietly ships out flowers such as roses on a large scale direct to Malaysia. Last year he was estimated to be making an incredible US$3m a week from this venture.\r\n\r\nOf course the farm was not his in the first place. He did not buy it, he stole it. He may employ a thousand workers and one Dutch farm manager, who are just doing their jobs, but the sweet smell of success is based on an ownership fraud, as is the case with many other farms owned by the Zim mafia which is a favoured clique of Zanu-PF. They are the ones who glide over potholes in Mercedes comfort. They are the ones who live in elegant homes tended by armies of servants, and who feed themselves from well-stocked freezers.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gideon Gono has, of course, been very clever.<br />
He has no need to drain his money out of Zimbabwe via Britain or South Africa and then stash it in East Asia. He gets paid directly from Malaysia and keeps it there. Gideon doesn&#8217;t like it to be known that he owns a valuable farm in Mazowa, East of Harare from where he quietly ships out flowers such as roses on a large scale direct to Malaysia. Last year he was estimated to be making an incredible US$3m a week from this venture.</p>
<p>Of course the farm was not his in the first place. He did not buy it, he stole it. He may employ a thousand workers and one Dutch farm manager, who are just doing their jobs, but the sweet smell of success is based on an ownership fraud, as is the case with many other farms owned by the Zim mafia which is a favoured clique of Zanu-PF. They are the ones who glide over potholes in Mercedes comfort. They are the ones who live in elegant homes tended by armies of servants, and who feed themselves from well-stocked freezers.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('271529','True Grit'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('271529','True Grit','Gideon Gono has, of course, been very clever.\r\nHe has no need to drain his money out of Zimbabwe via Britain or South Africa and then stash it in East Asia. He gets paid directly from Malaysia and keeps it there. Gideon doesn\'t like it to be known that he owns a valuable farm in Mazowa, East of Harare from where he quietly ships out flowers such as roses on a large scale direct to Malaysia. Last year he was estimated to be making an incredible US$3m a week from this venture.\r\n\r\nOf course the farm was not his in the first place. He did not buy it, he stole it. He may employ a thousand workers and one Dutch farm manager, who are just doing their jobs, but the sweet smell of success is based on an ownership fraud, as is the case with many other farms owned by the Zim mafia which is a favoured clique of Zanu-PF. They are the ones who glide over potholes in Mercedes comfort. They are the ones who live in elegant homes tended by armies of servants, and who feed themselves from well-stocked freezers.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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