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		<title>By: Malcolm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Malcolm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 23:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It has now been suggested that this news item was false and leaked to the media in order to flush out a &#039;mole&#039; in the talks. What drivel. Even if it is not, it makes one wonder what is going on that is so desperately secret that cannot be trusted to the people. Once again one has to wonder if the parties are in fact working to a people&#039;s mandate, and making deals with the Zimbabwean people in mind. 

Democracy under wraps is a contradiction.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;271567&#039;,&#039;Malcolm&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;271567&#039;,&#039;Malcolm&#039;,&#039;It has now been suggested that this news item was false and leaked to the media in order to flush out a \&#039;mole\&#039; in the talks. What drivel. Even if it is not, it makes one wonder what is going on that is so desperately secret that cannot be trusted to the people. Once again one has to wonder if the parties are in fact working to a people\&#039;s mandate, and making deals with the Zimbabwean people in mind. \r\n\r\nDemocracy under wraps is a contradiction.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has now been suggested that this news item was false and leaked to the media in order to flush out a &#8216;mole&#8217; in the talks. What drivel. Even if it is not, it makes one wonder what is going on that is so desperately secret that cannot be trusted to the people. Once again one has to wonder if the parties are in fact working to a people&#8217;s mandate, and making deals with the Zimbabwean people in mind. </p>
<p>Democracy under wraps is a contradiction.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('271567','Malcolm'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('271567','Malcolm','It has now been suggested that this news item was false and leaked to the media in order to flush out a \'mole\' in the talks. What drivel. Even if it is not, it makes one wonder what is going on that is so desperately secret that cannot be trusted to the people. Once again one has to wonder if the parties are in fact working to a people\'s mandate, and making deals with the Zimbabwean people in mind. \r\n\r\nDemocracy under wraps is a contradiction.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: True Grit</title>
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		<dc:creator>True Grit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 23:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: UN assists Mujuru&#039;s venture:

Retired General Solomon Mujuru, husband of Joyce, is not only a main shareholder in this Beitbridge diamond mine, he also shares the spoils together with political strongman Emmerson Mnangagwa (who would love to take over
as President from Mugabe) in Zimbabwe&#039;s gold producing mines such as Kadoma and others.

The Mujurus did not purchase or acquire the River Ranch mine legally. Soloman stole it from Adele and Mike Farquhar at gunpoint. The Farquhars did attemtp to fight back legally, but they didn&#039;t get very far, because the Attorney General was a close relative of Mujuru.

The corruption among Mugabe&#039;s favoured few is literally mind-boggling. It surpasses even Stalin&#039;s cronies of the 1930-50s. And that&#039;s saying something! Thats&#039;s also why they won&#039;t give up power easily. Their only patriotism is to themselves and the masses can go hang. Sanctions against them are essential.
Mugabe once said he had degrees in violence, I would say that he and his henchmen also have top degrees in corruption. How sad for the poor, innocent, and betrayed people! When will they be able to kick out these hooligans?&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;271566&#039;,&#039;True Grit&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;271566&#039;,&#039;True Grit&#039;,&#039;Re: UN assists Mujuru\&#039;s venture:\r\n\r\nRetired General Solomon Mujuru, husband of Joyce, is not only a main shareholder in this Beitbridge diamond mine, he also shares the spoils together with political strongman Emmerson Mnangagwa (who would love to take over\r\nas President from Mugabe) in Zimbabwe\&#039;s gold producing mines such as Kadoma and others.\r\n\r\nThe Mujurus did not purchase or acquire the River Ranch mine legally. Soloman stole it from Adele and Mike Farquhar at gunpoint. The Farquhars did attemtp to fight back legally, but they didn\&#039;t get very far, because the Attorney General was a close relative of Mujuru.\r\n\r\nThe corruption among Mugabe\&#039;s favoured few is literally mind-boggling. It surpasses even Stalin\&#039;s cronies of the 1930-50s. And that\&#039;s saying something! Thats\&#039;s also why they won\&#039;t give up power easily. Their only patriotism is to themselves and the masses can go hang. Sanctions against them are essential.\r\nMugabe once said he had degrees in violence, I would say that he and his henchmen also have top degrees in corruption. How sad for the poor, innocent, and betrayed people! When will they be able to kick out these hooligans?&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: UN assists Mujuru&#8217;s venture:</p>
<p>Retired General Solomon Mujuru, husband of Joyce, is not only a main shareholder in this Beitbridge diamond mine, he also shares the spoils together with political strongman Emmerson Mnangagwa (who would love to take over<br />
as President from Mugabe) in Zimbabwe&#8217;s gold producing mines such as Kadoma and others.</p>
<p>The Mujurus did not purchase or acquire the River Ranch mine legally. Soloman stole it from Adele and Mike Farquhar at gunpoint. The Farquhars did attemtp to fight back legally, but they didn&#8217;t get very far, because the Attorney General was a close relative of Mujuru.</p>
<p>The corruption among Mugabe&#8217;s favoured few is literally mind-boggling. It surpasses even Stalin&#8217;s cronies of the 1930-50s. And that&#8217;s saying something! Thats&#8217;s also why they won&#8217;t give up power easily. Their only patriotism is to themselves and the masses can go hang. Sanctions against them are essential.<br />
Mugabe once said he had degrees in violence, I would say that he and his henchmen also have top degrees in corruption. How sad for the poor, innocent, and betrayed people! When will they be able to kick out these hooligans?
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('271566','True Grit'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('271566','True Grit','Re: UN assists Mujuru\'s venture:\r\n\r\nRetired General Solomon Mujuru, husband of Joyce, is not only a main shareholder in this Beitbridge diamond mine, he also shares the spoils together with political strongman Emmerson Mnangagwa (who would love to take over\r\nas President from Mugabe) in Zimbabwe\'s gold producing mines such as Kadoma and others.\r\n\r\nThe Mujurus did not purchase or acquire the River Ranch mine legally. Soloman stole it from Adele and Mike Farquhar at gunpoint. The Farquhars did attemtp to fight back legally, but they didn\'t get very far, because the Attorney General was a close relative of Mujuru.\r\n\r\nThe corruption among Mugabe\'s favoured few is literally mind-boggling. It surpasses even Stalin\'s cronies of the 1930-50s. And that\'s saying something! Thats\'s also why they won\'t give up power easily. Their only patriotism is to themselves and the masses can go hang. Sanctions against them are essential.\r\nMugabe once said he had degrees in violence, I would say that he and his henchmen also have top degrees in corruption. How sad for the poor, innocent, and betrayed people! When will they be able to kick out these hooligans?'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: Malcolm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Malcolm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 20:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suspect this to be a ploy cooked up between Mbeki and Mugabeites to lay creedance to SA&#039;s claim that sanctions will harm negotiations. I hope those responsible for targeted sanctions do not fall for such a blatant arm wrestling stunt, and remember that all nations reserve their individual right whom to consider personna non grata and how to react to them.

Such stomping out of talks is typical of the Mugabe regime - they were doing it as early as Lancaster House talks. They&#039;ll sit it out until somebody placates them and makes others seek ammends. Thus does Mugabe set himself up as the agrieved part, and at the same time garner a sanctimonius auora and a label of magnaminity when he condescends to re-engage.

Do not forget that in essence Mugabe is a con-man - sometimes crude, sometimes astute. He has all the trappings of a con-man - outward credibility, the ability to cheat and lie, the gift of turning things around and playing on the gullibility of others, ruthlessness, and a lacking of morality.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;271564&#039;,&#039;Malcolm&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;271564&#039;,&#039;Malcolm&#039;,&#039;Suspect this to be a ploy cooked up between Mbeki and Mugabeites to lay creedance to SA\&#039;s claim that sanctions will harm negotiations. I hope those responsible for targeted sanctions do not fall for such a blatant arm wrestling stunt, and remember that all nations reserve their individual right whom to consider personna non grata and how to react to them.\r\n\r\nSuch stomping out of talks is typical of the Mugabe regime - they were doing it as early as Lancaster House talks. They\&#039;ll sit it out until somebody placates them and makes others seek ammends. Thus does Mugabe set himself up as the agrieved part, and at the same time garner a sanctimonius auora and a label of magnaminity when he condescends to re-engage.\r\n\r\nDo not forget that in essence Mugabe is a con-man - sometimes crude, sometimes astute. He has all the trappings of a con-man - outward credibility, the ability to cheat and lie, the gift of turning things around and playing on the gullibility of others, ruthlessness, and a lacking of morality.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suspect this to be a ploy cooked up between Mbeki and Mugabeites to lay creedance to SA&#8217;s claim that sanctions will harm negotiations. I hope those responsible for targeted sanctions do not fall for such a blatant arm wrestling stunt, and remember that all nations reserve their individual right whom to consider personna non grata and how to react to them.</p>
<p>Such stomping out of talks is typical of the Mugabe regime &#8211; they were doing it as early as Lancaster House talks. They&#8217;ll sit it out until somebody placates them and makes others seek ammends. Thus does Mugabe set himself up as the agrieved part, and at the same time garner a sanctimonius auora and a label of magnaminity when he condescends to re-engage.</p>
<p>Do not forget that in essence Mugabe is a con-man &#8211; sometimes crude, sometimes astute. He has all the trappings of a con-man &#8211; outward credibility, the ability to cheat and lie, the gift of turning things around and playing on the gullibility of others, ruthlessness, and a lacking of morality.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('271564','Malcolm'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('271564','Malcolm','Suspect this to be a ploy cooked up between Mbeki and Mugabeites to lay creedance to SA\'s claim that sanctions will harm negotiations. I hope those responsible for targeted sanctions do not fall for such a blatant arm wrestling stunt, and remember that all nations reserve their individual right whom to consider personna non grata and how to react to them.\r\n\r\nSuch stomping out of talks is typical of the Mugabe regime - they were doing it as early as Lancaster House talks. They\'ll sit it out until somebody placates them and makes others seek ammends. Thus does Mugabe set himself up as the agrieved part, and at the same time garner a sanctimonius auora and a label of magnaminity when he condescends to re-engage.\r\n\r\nDo not forget that in essence Mugabe is a con-man - sometimes crude, sometimes astute. He has all the trappings of a con-man - outward credibility, the ability to cheat and lie, the gift of turning things around and playing on the gullibility of others, ruthlessness, and a lacking of morality.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: CC</title>
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		<dc:creator>CC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This just came out in the last few minutes. I hope it&#8217;s not true, and best thoughts to all.</p>
<p><a href="http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5i4kT7pJlnuzY_vpKdTACcQYIPcvQD926V1HO1" rel="nofollow">http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5i4kT7pJlnuzY_vpKdTACcQYIPcvQD926V1HO1</a></p>
<p>Officials say Zimbabwe talks have broken off<br />
By MICHELLE FAUL â€“ 20 minutes ago </p>
<p>JOHANNESBURG, South Africa (AP) â€” Officials close to the Zimbabwe power-sharing talks say negotiations in South Africa have broken off.</p>
<p>Two officials, who insisted on anonymity because all parties agreed to a media blackout during the talks, say the chief negotiators for Zimbabwe President Robert Mugabe are flying home Monday.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('271558','CC'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('271558','CC','This just came out in the last few minutes. I hope it\'s not true, and best thoughts to all.\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/ap.google.com\/article\/ALeqM5i4kT7pJlnuzY_vpKdTACcQYIPcvQD926V1HO1\r\n\r\nOfficials say Zimbabwe talks have broken off\r\nBy MICHELLE FAUL &Atilde;&cent;&acirc;&not;&acirc; 20 minutes ago \r\n\r\nJOHANNESBURG, South Africa (AP) &Atilde;&cent;&acirc;&not;&acirc; Officials close to the Zimbabwe power-sharing talks say negotiations in South Africa have broken off.\r\n\r\nTwo officials, who insisted on anonymity because all parties agreed to a media blackout during the talks, say the chief negotiators for Zimbabwe President Robert Mugabe are flying home Monday.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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