Comments on: The only problem is that we do not know who listens http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/2231 This is Zimbabwe is Sokwanele's pro-democracy activist blog. It provides grassroots news and views from Zimbabwe. Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:14:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Australia http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/2231/comment-page-1#comment-272586 Australia Tue, 09 Dec 2008 12:22:34 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=2231#comment-272586 We have been watching for a year or so now and please know we grieve for Zim. Some suggest that Zim people are too warm hearted and will reluctantly rebel. I do not know. I do know that history tells us that faced with starvation people will rise up, if only to feed their children. We hope that with their reputation at stake the SADC steps in and takes over. But it won't happen. They will talk forever and wring their hands and do as the SADC always does..nothing. SA is to blame. It is the southern Africa lever for change but it is led by little men and women terrified of losing their perks. History will judge them as complicit in Mugabe's despotism. Their names will be known in history as those who said "Mugabe's fine. All's well, it's the UK's fault." Zimbabwe is South Africa's fault.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('272586','Australia'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('272586','Australia','We have been watching for a year or so now and please know we grieve for Zim. Some suggest that Zim people are too warm hearted and will reluctantly rebel. I do not know. I do know that history tells us that faced with starvation people will rise up, if only to feed their children. We hope that with their reputation at stake the SADC steps in and takes over. But it won\'t happen. They will talk forever and wring their hands and do as the SADC always does..nothing. \r\nSA is to blame. It is the southern Africa lever for change but it is led by little men and women terrified of losing their perks. History will judge them as complicit in Mugabe\'s despotism. Their names will be known in history as those who said \"Mugabe\'s fine. All\'s well, it\'s the UK\'s fault.\" \r\nZimbabwe is South Africa\'s fault.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> We have been watching for a year or so now and please know we grieve for Zim. Some suggest that Zim people are too warm hearted and will reluctantly rebel. I do not know. I do know that history tells us that faced with starvation people will rise up, if only to feed their children. We hope that with their reputation at stake the SADC steps in and takes over. But it won’t happen. They will talk forever and wring their hands and do as the SADC always does..nothing.
SA is to blame. It is the southern Africa lever for change but it is led by little men and women terrified of losing their perks. History will judge them as complicit in Mugabe’s despotism. Their names will be known in history as those who said “Mugabe’s fine. All’s well, it’s the UK’s fault.”
Zimbabwe is South Africa’s fault.
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]]> By: Concerned http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/2231/comment-page-1#comment-272195 Concerned Thu, 16 Oct 2008 21:17:14 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=2231#comment-272195 I think it is time for the international community to say to the SADC and AU, "your time is running out, do the right thing (Get rid of Mugabe and his comrades ) or we act." Being accused of colonialism should not stop them from getting involved (and doing whatever it takes)in a preventable humanitarian disaster. Perhaps instead of threatening other countries into doing something, they should offer them big incentives to bring about a very favourable solution to the problem?<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('272195','Concerned'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('272195','Concerned','I think it is time for the international community to say to the SADC and AU, \"your time is running out, do the right thing (Get rid of Mugabe and his comrades ) or we act.\"\r\nBeing accused of colonialism should not stop them from getting involved (and doing whatever it takes)in a preventable humanitarian disaster. \r\nPerhaps instead of threatening other countries into doing something, they should offer them big incentives to bring about a very favourable solution to the problem?'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> I think it is time for the international community to say to the SADC and AU, “your time is running out, do the right thing (Get rid of Mugabe and his comrades ) or we act.”
Being accused of colonialism should not stop them from getting involved (and doing whatever it takes)in a preventable humanitarian disaster.
Perhaps instead of threatening other countries into doing something, they should offer them big incentives to bring about a very favourable solution to the problem?
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]]> By: Henrik http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/2231/comment-page-1#comment-272191 Henrik Wed, 15 Oct 2008 23:20:26 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=2231#comment-272191 Scandinavian media follow the situation closely and yesterday morning Danish national radio broadcasted interviews made undercover in Harare last week. (Listen to part of the interview in English here: http://dr.dk/Nyheder/Udland/2008/10/13/172200.htm - choose "Mike, en ung mand..." to the right) The problem is - we are white. The minute we start to interfere, we are accused of colonialism, sadly not only by Mugabe & co, but also by many African leaders and even other African citizens who think we should mind our own business. We refuse. No matter colour, religion, faith, gender - nobody should have to suffer like this because of mismanagement from a corrupt (or even evil) government. So again: We are listening - but unfortunately history shows that rebellion has to come from inside. Only then will help from outside be seen as help and not interference...<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('272191','Henrik'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('272191','Henrik','Scandinavian media follow the situation closely and yesterday morning Danish national radio broadcasted interviews made undercover in Harare last week.\r\n\r\n(Listen to part of the interview in English here: \r\nhttp:\/\/dr.dk\/Nyheder\/Udland\/2008\/10\/13\/172200.htm - choose \"Mike, en ung mand...\" to the right)\r\n\r\nThe problem is - we are white. The minute we start to interfere, we are accused of colonialism, sadly not only by Mugabe & co, but also by many African leaders and even other African citizens who think we should mind our own business. We refuse. No matter colour, religion, faith, gender - nobody should have to suffer like this because of mismanagement from a corrupt (or even evil) government.\r\n\r\nSo again: We are listening - but unfortunately history shows that rebellion has to come from inside. Only then will help from outside be seen as help and not interference...'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> Scandinavian media follow the situation closely and yesterday morning Danish national radio broadcasted interviews made undercover in Harare last week.

(Listen to part of the interview in English here:
http://dr.dk/Nyheder/Udland/2008/10/13/172200.htm – choose “Mike, en ung mand…” to the right)

The problem is – we are white. The minute we start to interfere, we are accused of colonialism, sadly not only by Mugabe & co, but also by many African leaders and even other African citizens who think we should mind our own business. We refuse. No matter colour, religion, faith, gender – nobody should have to suffer like this because of mismanagement from a corrupt (or even evil) government.

So again: We are listening – but unfortunately history shows that rebellion has to come from inside. Only then will help from outside be seen as help and not interference…

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]]> By: Only http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/2231/comment-page-1#comment-272186 Only Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:23:22 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=2231#comment-272186 I would like to encourage you , despite I have no power to change the situation. But at least, you will feel that someone else is listenimg to you.. >.me, and the people that visit my blog, a single personal blog. And that is because I mentioned your blog in mi blog today, as part of Blog Action Day. This is all I can do right now, but, please, keep your smile, and your hope. With my best wishes Only, from Spain<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('272186','Only'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('272186','Only','I would like to encourage you , despite I have no power to change the situation. But at least, you will feel that someone else is listenimg to you.. >.me, and the people that visit my blog, a single personal blog. And that is because I mentioned your blog in mi blog today, as part of Blog Action Day. This is all I can do right now, but, please, keep your smile, and your hope.\r\n\r\nWith my best wishes\r\n\r\nOnly, \r\n from Spain'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> I would like to encourage you , despite I have no power to change the situation. But at least, you will feel that someone else is listenimg to you.. >.me, and the people that visit my blog, a single personal blog. And that is because I mentioned your blog in mi blog today, as part of Blog Action Day. This is all I can do right now, but, please, keep your smile, and your hope.

With my best wishes

Only,
from Spain

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]]> By: LuanshyaBlue http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/2231/comment-page-1#comment-272175 LuanshyaBlue Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:31:53 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=2231#comment-272175 Please believe that there are people all over the world who are listening to you. People who are powerless to help but none the less thinking of you. We realised right from the word go, and have been saying so, that any 'agreement' produced by Mbeki with the connivance of Mugabe was worthless. But what could the MDC do to alter things - nothing? It is not the wider international community which should be 'doing something', it is SADC. The so called leaders of al the southern African countries should be shouting from the rooftops that Mugabe is illegitimate. But other than Ian Khama and the late President Mwanawasa, they have all been disgustingly silent. Believe me when I say that the wider international community is only waiting for SADC to get rid of the scourge of Mugabe (and his cohorts). The day after that happens, more aid than you can possibly imagine will flow into Zimbabwe. We are with you in mind and spirit every single day that passes by and Mugabe remains in power. Go well as best you can.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('272175','LuanshyaBlue'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('272175','LuanshyaBlue','Please believe that there are people all over the world who are listening to you. People who are powerless to help but none the less thinking of you.\r\nWe realised right from the word go, and have been saying so, that any \'agreement\' produced by Mbeki with the connivance of Mugabe was worthless. But what could the MDC do to alter things - nothing?\r\nIt is not the wider international community which should be \'doing something\', it is SADC. The so called leaders of al the southern African countries should be shouting from the rooftops that Mugabe is illegitimate. But other than Ian Khama and the late President Mwanawasa, they have all been disgustingly silent.\r\nBelieve me when I say that the wider international community is only waiting for SADC to get rid of the scourge of Mugabe (and his cohorts). The day after that happens, more aid than you can possibly imagine will flow into Zimbabwe.\r\nWe are with you in mind and spirit every single day that passes by and Mugabe remains in power.\r\nGo well as best you can.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> Please believe that there are people all over the world who are listening to you. People who are powerless to help but none the less thinking of you.
We realised right from the word go, and have been saying so, that any ‘agreement’ produced by Mbeki with the connivance of Mugabe was worthless. But what could the MDC do to alter things – nothing?
It is not the wider international community which should be ‘doing something’, it is SADC. The so called leaders of al the southern African countries should be shouting from the rooftops that Mugabe is illegitimate. But other than Ian Khama and the late President Mwanawasa, they have all been disgustingly silent.
Believe me when I say that the wider international community is only waiting for SADC to get rid of the scourge of Mugabe (and his cohorts). The day after that happens, more aid than you can possibly imagine will flow into Zimbabwe.
We are with you in mind and spirit every single day that passes by and Mugabe remains in power.
Go well as best you can.
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