Comments on: Statement from the Movement For Democratic Change on the outcome of the SADC Extra-Ordinary summit on the Zimbabwe dialogue http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/2556 This is Zimbabwe is Sokwanele's pro-democracy activist blog. It provides grassroots news and views from Zimbabwe. Wed, 08 Feb 2012 04:20:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Anonymous http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/2556/comment-page-1#comment-272372 Anonymous Sun, 16 Nov 2008 08:37:00 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=2556#comment-272372 <blockquote><a href='#comment-272331' rel="nofollow">Quoting Nationalist Nkalanga</a>Morgan Wake Up. You need to get into the office and do some work pronto. What alternatives are yuou offering the people? You are not saying. In the absence of alternatives i guess we just have to eat the pudding and be more careful of what we append our signatures to. Its time to roll up the sleeves and get the job done from within. Its going to be hardwork but start forming a government and win over the Civil Servants and you will be right.</blockquote> It is not Morgan's war alone its every Zim citizen's obligation to fight this monater of Dictator. Options and alternatives should be brain stormed by every concerned citizens. SADC has shown its undisputed insecerity towards the people of Zimbabwe. They are willing to sacrifice the people of Zimbabwe to safeguard theur interest of their disgracefull comrade. SHAME ON THEM<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('272372','Anonymous'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('272372','Anonymous','<blockquote><a href=\'#comment-272331\' rel=\"nofollow\">Quoting Nationalist Nkalanga<\/a>Morgan Wake Up. You need to get into the office and do some work pronto. What alternatives are yuou offering the people? You are not saying. In the absence of alternatives i guess we just have to eat the pudding and be more careful of what we append our signatures to. Its time to roll up the sleeves and get the job done from within. Its going to be hardwork but start forming a government and win over the Civil Servants and you will be right.<\/blockquote>\r\n\r\nIt is not Morgan\'s war alone its every Zim citizen\'s obligation to fight this monater of Dictator. Options and alternatives should be brain stormed by every concerned citizens. SADC has shown its undisputed insecerity towards the people of Zimbabwe. They are willing to sacrifice the people of Zimbabwe to safeguard theur interest of their disgracefull comrade. SHAME ON THEM'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>

Quoting Nationalist NkalangaMorgan Wake Up. You need to get into the office and do some work pronto. What alternatives are yuou offering the people? You are not saying. In the absence of alternatives i guess we just have to eat the pudding and be more careful of what we append our signatures to. Its time to roll up the sleeves and get the job done from within. Its going to be hardwork but start forming a government and win over the Civil Servants and you will be right.

It is not Morgan’s war alone its every Zim citizen’s obligation to fight this monater of Dictator. Options and alternatives should be brain stormed by every concerned citizens. SADC has shown its undisputed insecerity towards the people of Zimbabwe. They are willing to sacrifice the people of Zimbabwe to safeguard theur interest of their disgracefull comrade. SHAME ON THEM

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]]> By: Nationalist Nkalanga http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/2556/comment-page-1#comment-272331 Nationalist Nkalanga Wed, 12 Nov 2008 05:30:50 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=2556#comment-272331 Morgan Wake Up. You need to get into the office and do some work pronto. What alternatives are yuou offering the people? You are not saying. In the absence of alternatives i guess we just have to eat the pudding and be more careful of what we append our signatures to. Its time to roll up the sleeves and get the job done from within. Its going to be hardwork but start forming a government and win over the Civil Servants and you will be right.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('272331','Nationalist Nkalanga'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('272331','Nationalist Nkalanga','Morgan Wake Up. You need to get into the office and do some work pronto. What alternatives are yuou offering the people? You are not saying. In the absence of alternatives i guess we just have to eat the pudding and be more careful of what we append our signatures to. Its time to roll up the sleeves and get the job done from within. Its going to be hardwork but start forming a government and win over the Civil Servants and you will be right.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> Morgan Wake Up. You need to get into the office and do some work pronto. What alternatives are yuou offering the people? You are not saying. In the absence of alternatives i guess we just have to eat the pudding and be more careful of what we append our signatures to. Its time to roll up the sleeves and get the job done from within. Its going to be hardwork but start forming a government and win over the Civil Servants and you will be right.
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]]> By: True Grit http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/2556/comment-page-1#comment-272325 True Grit Tue, 11 Nov 2008 18:27:15 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=2556#comment-272325 "This is preeminently the time to speak the truth, the whole truth, frankly and boldly. Nor need we shrink from honesty facing conditions in our country today. this great Nation will endure as it So first of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself - nameless, unreasoning unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance." President F.D.Roosevelt, Jan.20th, 1933 But things are not so simple in today's Zimbabwe where executive power to meet the crisis cannot be won by fair and free election. So there is only one peaceful option for Tsvangirai to take. He should go back to the African Union and he should ask them to grant him the same broad executive power to wage a war against the emergency, as great as the power that would be given to a leader if Zimbabwe was in fact invaded by a foreign foe. That is what FDR asked of his Congress in a democratic environment. That is what Tsvangirai should ask of Africa. If the AU agrees, and Mugabe objects, then he (Mugabe) becomes the de facto common enemy of his country.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('272325','True Grit'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('272325','True Grit','\"This is preeminently the time to speak the truth, the whole truth, frankly and boldly.\r\nNor need we shrink from honesty facing conditions in our country today. this great Nation will endure as it So first of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself - nameless, unreasoning unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance.\"\r\n\r\nPresident F.D.Roosevelt, Jan.20th, 1933\r\n\r\nBut things are not so simple in today\'s Zimbabwe where executive power to meet the crisis cannot be won by fair and free election. So there is only one peaceful option for Tsvangirai to take. He should go back to the African Union and he should ask them to grant him the same broad executive power to wage a war against the emergency, as great as the power that would be given to a leader if Zimbabwe was in fact invaded by a foreign foe. That is what FDR asked of his Congress in a democratic environment. That is what Tsvangirai should ask of Africa. If the AU agrees, and Mugabe objects, then he (Mugabe) becomes the de facto common enemy of his country.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> “This is preeminently the time to speak the truth, the whole truth, frankly and boldly.
Nor need we shrink from honesty facing conditions in our country today. this great Nation will endure as it So first of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself – nameless, unreasoning unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance.”

President F.D.Roosevelt, Jan.20th, 1933

But things are not so simple in today’s Zimbabwe where executive power to meet the crisis cannot be won by fair and free election. So there is only one peaceful option for Tsvangirai to take. He should go back to the African Union and he should ask them to grant him the same broad executive power to wage a war against the emergency, as great as the power that would be given to a leader if Zimbabwe was in fact invaded by a foreign foe. That is what FDR asked of his Congress in a democratic environment. That is what Tsvangirai should ask of Africa. If the AU agrees, and Mugabe objects, then he (Mugabe) becomes the de facto common enemy of his country.

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]]> By: Faraway http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/2556/comment-page-1#comment-272314 Faraway Tue, 11 Nov 2008 00:48:29 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=2556#comment-272314 Well, we all know what a crafty man Mugabe can be. He's just playing mind games with the MDC. The unity deal was a farce created by buddy Mbeki to save Mugabe from collapse. Now, if Mugabe the magician can get that unity deal going, we all know how he will side step the opposition, lock them up or just shoot them dead. He will do whatever the hell he wants, because he owns Zimbabwe and that is that. The real answer lies with the people within. Here's a great way to disperse news to the news starved Zimbabweans, to get them motivated. This how the South Koreans do it. Maybe our Avaaz friends could set this up for a massive drop, launched from neighbouring friendly countries. story http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7719755.stm video at http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7719064.stm<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('272314','Faraway'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('272314','Faraway','Well, we all know what a crafty man Mugabe can be. He\'s just playing mind games with the MDC. The unity deal was a farce created by buddy Mbeki to save Mugabe from collapse. Now, if Mugabe the magician can get that unity deal going, we all know how he will side step the opposition, lock them up or just shoot them dead. He will do whatever the hell he wants, because he owns Zimbabwe and that is that.\r\n\r\nThe real answer lies with the people within. \r\nHere\'s a great way to disperse news to the news starved Zimbabweans, to get them motivated. This how the South Koreans do it.\r\n\r\nMaybe our Avaaz friends could set this up for a massive drop, launched from neighbouring friendly countries.\r\n\r\nstory\r\nhttp:\/\/news.bbc.co.uk\/2\/hi\/asia-pacific\/7719755.stm\r\n\r\nvideo at\r\nhttp:\/\/news.bbc.co.uk\/2\/hi\/asia-pacific\/7719064.stm'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> Well, we all know what a crafty man Mugabe can be. He’s just playing mind games with the MDC. The unity deal was a farce created by buddy Mbeki to save Mugabe from collapse. Now, if Mugabe the magician can get that unity deal going, we all know how he will side step the opposition, lock them up or just shoot them dead. He will do whatever the hell he wants, because he owns Zimbabwe and that is that.

The real answer lies with the people within.
Here’s a great way to disperse news to the news starved Zimbabweans, to get them motivated. This how the South Koreans do it.

Maybe our Avaaz friends could set this up for a massive drop, launched from neighbouring friendly countries.

story
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7719755.stm

video at
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7719064.stm

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]]> By: Concerned http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/2556/comment-page-1#comment-272312 Concerned Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:10:31 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=2556#comment-272312 Perhaps there is another way to resolve the Zimbabwe issue. One must admit that sharing power with Mugabe et al is not what the people want; maybe it is a good thing thing that the deadlock cannot be resolved; maybe we need to find another peaceful route to a more acceptable outcome that can bring real change, and fast! I would like to hear those who criticise the current process come up with a better option.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('272312','Concerned'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('272312','Concerned','Perhaps there is another way to resolve the Zimbabwe issue. One must admit that sharing power with Mugabe et al is not what the people want; maybe it is a good thing thing that the deadlock cannot be resolved; maybe we need to find another peaceful route to a more acceptable outcome that can bring real change, and fast!\r\nI would like to hear those who criticise the current process come up with a better option.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> Perhaps there is another way to resolve the Zimbabwe issue. One must admit that sharing power with Mugabe et al is not what the people want; maybe it is a good thing thing that the deadlock cannot be resolved; maybe we need to find another peaceful route to a more acceptable outcome that can bring real change, and fast!
I would like to hear those who criticise the current process come up with a better option.
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]]> By: Anon http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/2556/comment-page-1#comment-272310 Anon Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:46:25 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=2556#comment-272310 the SADC Extra-Ordinary summit on the Zimbabwe dialogue November 10th, 2008 MDC...please have the teachers / lawyers in your leadership ranks break down to you that 'EXTRA-ORDINARY' is exactly what you asked for and just what you got. [<em>Edit...</em>]<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('272310','Anon'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('272310','Anon','the SADC Extra-Ordinary summit on the Zimbabwe dialogue\r\nNovember 10th, 2008\r\n\r\nMDC...please have the teachers \/ lawyers in your leadership ranks break down to you that \'EXTRA-ORDINARY\' is exactly what you asked for and just what you got.\r\n\r\n[<em>Edit...<\/em>]'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> the SADC Extra-Ordinary summit on the Zimbabwe dialogue
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MDC…please have the teachers / lawyers in your leadership ranks break down to you that ‘EXTRA-ORDINARY’ is exactly what you asked for and just what you got.

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]]> By: LuanshyaBlue http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/2556/comment-page-1#comment-272309 LuanshyaBlue Mon, 10 Nov 2008 16:45:27 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=2556#comment-272309 No surprises then! Mugabe as predictable as ever. I thought you might like to see the email I have just sent to the secretariat of SADC after Tomaz Salomao made his announcement that the home affairs ministry should be shared (sic) Dear Sirs, I write with regard to the announcement today, by your seceraty general, concerning the situation in Zimbabwe following the discussions in Sandton. I, like millions of concerned observers around the world, am appalled by the way all the local politicians in the area, except it seems for Seretse Ian Khama, are content to allow Mugabe and his cohorts to continue their reign of terror without fear of criticism. Even as I write Mugabe's thugs are persecuting the populace of Zimbabwe and your organisation does nothing to intervene. My heart bleeds for the people of Zimbabwe and DRC. You have the power to do something about Zimbabwe yet you refuse to even follow the statement of Ian Khama in denouncing Mugabe as being illegitimate. How, pray, can this be? Makes me feel a little better, but does it do any good?<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('272309','LuanshyaBlue'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('272309','LuanshyaBlue','No surprises then!\r\nMugabe as predictable as ever.\r\nI thought you might like to see the email I have just sent to the secretariat of SADC after Tomaz Salomao made his announcement that the home affairs ministry should be shared (sic)\r\nDear Sirs,\r\nI write with regard to the announcement today, by your seceraty general, \r\nconcerning the situation in Zimbabwe following the discussions in Sandton.\r\nI, like millions of concerned observers around the world, am appalled by the \r\nway all the local politicians in the area, except it seems for Seretse Ian \r\nKhama, are content to allow Mugabe and his cohorts to continue their reign \r\nof terror without fear of criticism.\r\nEven as I write Mugabe\'s thugs are persecuting the populace of Zimbabwe and \r\nyour organisation does nothing to intervene.\r\nMy heart bleeds for the people of Zimbabwe and DRC. You have the power to do \r\nsomething about Zimbabwe yet you refuse to even follow the statement of Ian \r\nKhama in denouncing Mugabe as being illegitimate.\r\nHow, pray, can this be?\r\n\r\nMakes me feel a little better, but does it do any good?'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> No surprises then!
Mugabe as predictable as ever.
I thought you might like to see the email I have just sent to the secretariat of SADC after Tomaz Salomao made his announcement that the home affairs ministry should be shared (sic)
Dear Sirs,
I write with regard to the announcement today, by your seceraty general,
concerning the situation in Zimbabwe following the discussions in Sandton.
I, like millions of concerned observers around the world, am appalled by the
way all the local politicians in the area, except it seems for Seretse Ian
Khama, are content to allow Mugabe and his cohorts to continue their reign
of terror without fear of criticism.
Even as I write Mugabe’s thugs are persecuting the populace of Zimbabwe and
your organisation does nothing to intervene.
My heart bleeds for the people of Zimbabwe and DRC. You have the power to do
something about Zimbabwe yet you refuse to even follow the statement of Ian
Khama in denouncing Mugabe as being illegitimate.
How, pray, can this be?

Makes me feel a little better, but does it do any good?

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