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		<title>By: Alysha</title>
		<link>http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/2587/comment-page-1#comment-272996</link>
		<dc:creator>Alysha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 19:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In two weeks, we are having a fundraising event to help stop violence and genocide in the world. (www.globalsoul.org) I am looking for photographs from Zimbabwe showing both the violence that has/is taken/taking place there and also the beauty of the country&#039;s landscape for a slideshow that will be part of the event. I need high resolution photographs. Please contact me if you can help.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;272996&#039;,&#039;Alysha&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;272996&#039;,&#039;Alysha&#039;,&#039;In two weeks, we are having a fundraising event to help stop violence and genocide in the world. (www.globalsoul.org) I am looking for photographs from Zimbabwe showing both the violence that has\/is taken\/taking place there and also the beauty of the country\&#039;s landscape for a slideshow that will be part of the event. I need high resolution photographs. Please contact me if you can help.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In two weeks, we are having a fundraising event to help stop violence and genocide in the world. (www.globalsoul.org) I am looking for photographs from Zimbabwe showing both the violence that has/is taken/taking place there and also the beauty of the country&#8217;s landscape for a slideshow that will be part of the event. I need high resolution photographs. Please contact me if you can help.
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		<title>By: Natalie Jollands</title>
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		<dc:creator>Natalie Jollands</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have created a group on Facebook called prayers for Zimbabwe and Magabe, It was created for all people aware of Zimbabwe&#039;s situation and any who wanted to voice their views and what ultimately could or should be done.

I have titled it Prayer as I believe this Zimbabwe and its people are in desperate need of Gods work. (When has prayer hurt anyone) other then bring about greater good.

I think a good place to start would be getting in contact with people from Zimbabwe and enquiring their prayer needs, if neccessary encourage them to pray.

I am from South Africa and Zimbabwe is a situation close to my heart as Im sure it is to many others. It would shock South Africans to know just how much coverage there is of Zimbabwe&#039;s situation in the UK!

Be The Change you want to see!!!
Zimbabwe, we have brother s and sisters who are starving and being beaten to death for what?   Exactly&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;272822&#039;,&#039;Natalie Jollands&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;272822&#039;,&#039;Natalie Jollands&#039;,&#039;I have created a group on Facebook called prayers for Zimbabwe and Magabe, It was created for all people aware of Zimbabwe\&#039;s situation and any who wanted to voice their views and what ultimately could or should be done.\r\n\r\nI have titled it Prayer as I believe this Zimbabwe and its people are in desperate need of Gods work. (When has prayer hurt anyone) other then bring about greater good.\r\n\r\nI think a good place to start would be getting in contact with people from Zimbabwe and enquiring their prayer needs, if neccessary encourage them to pray.\r\n\r\nI am from South Africa and Zimbabwe is a situation close to my heart as Im sure it is to many others. It would shock South Africans to know just how much coverage there is of Zimbabwe\&#039;s situation in the UK!\r\n\r\nBe The Change you want to see!!!\r\nZimbabwe, we have brother s and sisters who are starving and being beaten to death for what?   Exactly&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have created a group on Facebook called prayers for Zimbabwe and Magabe, It was created for all people aware of Zimbabwe&#8217;s situation and any who wanted to voice their views and what ultimately could or should be done.</p>
<p>I have titled it Prayer as I believe this Zimbabwe and its people are in desperate need of Gods work. (When has prayer hurt anyone) other then bring about greater good.</p>
<p>I think a good place to start would be getting in contact with people from Zimbabwe and enquiring their prayer needs, if neccessary encourage them to pray.</p>
<p>I am from South Africa and Zimbabwe is a situation close to my heart as Im sure it is to many others. It would shock South Africans to know just how much coverage there is of Zimbabwe&#8217;s situation in the UK!</p>
<p>Be The Change you want to see!!!<br />
Zimbabwe, we have brother s and sisters who are starving and being beaten to death for what?   Exactly
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('272822','Natalie Jollands'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('272822','Natalie Jollands','I have created a group on Facebook called prayers for Zimbabwe and Magabe, It was created for all people aware of Zimbabwe\'s situation and any who wanted to voice their views and what ultimately could or should be done.\r\n\r\nI have titled it Prayer as I believe this Zimbabwe and its people are in desperate need of Gods work. (When has prayer hurt anyone) other then bring about greater good.\r\n\r\nI think a good place to start would be getting in contact with people from Zimbabwe and enquiring their prayer needs, if neccessary encourage them to pray.\r\n\r\nI am from South Africa and Zimbabwe is a situation close to my heart as Im sure it is to many others. It would shock South Africans to know just how much coverage there is of Zimbabwe\'s situation in the UK!\r\n\r\nBe The Change you want to see!!!\r\nZimbabwe, we have brother s and sisters who are starving and being beaten to death for what?   Exactly'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: Brenda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brenda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 10:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone from South Africa reading here can contact Beverly Cameron at 082-338-4899
Sam  078 972 4150
Bernie 011 477 9458 / 082 855 5582 
of Save the Children

to donate goods and/or money for the refugee children at Musina.

Goods can be delivered to Save The Children&#039;s offices in Pretoria or collected by the above.  Details are:

2nd Floor
SAQA House
1067 Arcadia Street 
HATFIELD

Bloggers at 24.com are campaigning for this cause. 
Read Stray Cat at http://blogs.24.com/ViewBlog.aspx?blogid=8c214a8f-9475-4a8a-8504-d9a74091d4d7&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;272697&#039;,&#039;Brenda&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;272697&#039;,&#039;Brenda&#039;,&#039;Anyone from South Africa reading here can contact Beverly Cameron at 082-338-4899\r\nSam  078 972 4150\r\nBernie 011 477 9458 \/ 082 855 5582 \r\nof Save the Children\r\n\r\nto donate goods and\/or money for the refugee children at Musina.\r\n\r\nGoods can be delivered to Save The Children\&#039;s offices in Pretoria or collected by the above.  Details are:\r\n\r\n2nd Floor\r\nSAQA House\r\n1067 Arcadia Street \r\nHATFIELD\r\n\r\nBloggers at 24.com are campaigning for this cause. \r\nRead Stray Cat at http:\/\/blogs.24.com\/ViewBlog.aspx?blogid=8c214a8f-9475-4a8a-8504-d9a74091d4d7&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone from South Africa reading here can contact Beverly Cameron at 082-338-4899<br />
Sam  078 972 4150<br />
Bernie 011 477 9458 / 082 855 5582<br />
of Save the Children</p>
<p>to donate goods and/or money for the refugee children at Musina.</p>
<p>Goods can be delivered to Save The Children&#8217;s offices in Pretoria or collected by the above.  Details are:</p>
<p>2nd Floor<br />
SAQA House<br />
1067 Arcadia Street<br />
HATFIELD</p>
<p>Bloggers at 24.com are campaigning for this cause.<br />
Read Stray Cat at <a href="http://blogs.24.com/ViewBlog.aspx?blogid=8c214a8f-9475-4a8a-8504-d9a74091d4d7" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.24.com/ViewBlog.aspx?blogid=8c214a8f-9475-4a8a-8504-d9a74091d4d7</a>
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('272697','Brenda'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('272697','Brenda','Anyone from South Africa reading here can contact Beverly Cameron at 082-338-4899\r\nSam  078 972 4150\r\nBernie 011 477 9458 \/ 082 855 5582 \r\nof Save the Children\r\n\r\nto donate goods and\/or money for the refugee children at Musina.\r\n\r\nGoods can be delivered to Save The Children\'s offices in Pretoria or collected by the above.  Details are:\r\n\r\n2nd Floor\r\nSAQA House\r\n1067 Arcadia Street \r\nHATFIELD\r\n\r\nBloggers at 24.com are campaigning for this cause. \r\nRead Stray Cat at http:\/\/blogs.24.com\/ViewBlog.aspx?blogid=8c214a8f-9475-4a8a-8504-d9a74091d4d7'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: Mike Ancovic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Ancovic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 15:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-272478&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@The GoWayBird&lt;/a&gt; An organised petition is good as it can be done fast but needed is a weekly virgil like in London at the Zim embassy in front of all South African embassies; plus a PR campaign to boycott the 2010 FIFA soccer world cup in South Africa, exposing the ANC government as a bunch of people with no respect for human rights and dignity. We&#039;re ready to get involved as we did when fighting against apartheid.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;272674&#039;,&#039;Mike Ancovic&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;272674&#039;,&#039;Mike Ancovic&#039;,&#039;&lt;a href=\&#039;#comment-272478\&#039; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;@The GoWayBird&lt;\/a&gt; An organised petition is good as it can be done fast but needed is a weekly virgil like in London at the Zim embassy in front of all South African embassies; plus a PR campaign to boycott the 2010 FIFA soccer world cup in South Africa, exposing the ANC government as a bunch of people with no respect for human rights and dignity. We\&#039;re ready to get involved as we did when fighting against apartheid.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='#comment-272478' rel="nofollow">@The GoWayBird</a> An organised petition is good as it can be done fast but needed is a weekly virgil like in London at the Zim embassy in front of all South African embassies; plus a PR campaign to boycott the 2010 FIFA soccer world cup in South Africa, exposing the ANC government as a bunch of people with no respect for human rights and dignity. We&#8217;re ready to get involved as we did when fighting against apartheid.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('272674','Mike Ancovic'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('272674','Mike Ancovic','&lt;a href=\'#comment-272478\' rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;@The GoWayBird&lt;\/a&gt; An organised petition is good as it can be done fast but needed is a weekly virgil like in London at the Zim embassy in front of all South African embassies; plus a PR campaign to boycott the 2010 FIFA soccer world cup in South Africa, exposing the ANC government as a bunch of people with no respect for human rights and dignity. We\'re ready to get involved as we did when fighting against apartheid.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: Matibili.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matibili.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To you all

As for Zimbabwe&#039;s situation, how can you realistically discuss peacefull means to oust Mugabe. Know you not his language and world view.

Talk and use diplomacy and he will hit you hard physically. A mad man like that needs a hard smack across the face to make him come to his senses.

Inciting people to demonstrate en masse is a wish which is impossible to realise. 

Remember the system has imprinted it into every person&#039;s mind that you should act as an individual no wonder people get victimised individually to instill fear in them (a Smith stragey)

As TUTU said these snakes need military intervention and imprisonment. 

Theorising about violence and its past is all a fad, some mordern/current problems are still being resolved violently especially with ogres like those in zanu.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;272649&#039;,&#039;Matibili.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;272649&#039;,&#039;Matibili.&#039;,&#039;To you all\r\n\r\nAs for Zimbabwe\&#039;s situation, how can you realistically discuss peacefull means to oust Mugabe. Know you not his language and world view.\r\n\r\nTalk and use diplomacy and he will hit you hard physically. A mad man like that needs a hard smack across the face to make him come to his senses.\r\n\r\nInciting people to demonstrate en masse is a wish which is impossible to realise. \r\n\r\nRemember the system has imprinted it into every person\&#039;s mind that you should act as an individual no wonder people get victimised individually to instill fear in them (a Smith stragey)\r\n\r\nAs TUTU said these snakes need military intervention and imprisonment. \r\n\r\nTheorising about violence and its past is all a fad, some mordern\/current problems are still being resolved violently especially with ogres like those in zanu.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To you all</p>
<p>As for Zimbabwe&#8217;s situation, how can you realistically discuss peacefull means to oust Mugabe. Know you not his language and world view.</p>
<p>Talk and use diplomacy and he will hit you hard physically. A mad man like that needs a hard smack across the face to make him come to his senses.</p>
<p>Inciting people to demonstrate en masse is a wish which is impossible to realise. </p>
<p>Remember the system has imprinted it into every person&#8217;s mind that you should act as an individual no wonder people get victimised individually to instill fear in them (a Smith stragey)</p>
<p>As TUTU said these snakes need military intervention and imprisonment. </p>
<p>Theorising about violence and its past is all a fad, some mordern/current problems are still being resolved violently especially with ogres like those in zanu.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('272649','Matibili.'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('272649','Matibili.','To you all\r\n\r\nAs for Zimbabwe\'s situation, how can you realistically discuss peacefull means to oust Mugabe. Know you not his language and world view.\r\n\r\nTalk and use diplomacy and he will hit you hard physically. A mad man like that needs a hard smack across the face to make him come to his senses.\r\n\r\nInciting people to demonstrate en masse is a wish which is impossible to realise. \r\n\r\nRemember the system has imprinted it into every person\'s mind that you should act as an individual no wonder people get victimised individually to instill fear in them (a Smith stragey)\r\n\r\nAs TUTU said these snakes need military intervention and imprisonment. \r\n\r\nTheorising about violence and its past is all a fad, some mordern\/current problems are still being resolved violently especially with ogres like those in zanu.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: Lobengula</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lobengula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Claudia &amp; UK diaspora:

Zimbabwe did indeed win independence from England through violence. That is history.

Truth be told, Zimbabweans then turned their collective backs to the murder of some 20 thousand Ndebele instead of confronting Mubgabe then and there. Hitler was actually stopped dead in his tracks by a local German mayor who stood up to Hitler early on before he usurped power over life and death as Mugabe has done through the indifference of Zimbabweans and particularly the members of ZANU-PF who, much to their chagrin, are now suffering with everyone else.

As long as &quot;it isn&#039;t me&quot; go ahead and feed friends and neighbors to the crocodile was the mantra of the day. Trouble is...now it&#039;s them too and nobody to turn to and nobody else to feed to the croc.

Dear UK, if someone is beating you over the head with a knobkerrie and you&#039;ve asked them politely to stop many times...then what...just kneel there and be beaten to death. Great idea! 

As for me, &quot;Give me liberty or give me death&quot;.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;272644&#039;,&#039;Lobengula&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;272644&#039;,&#039;Lobengula&#039;,&#039;To Claudia &amp; UK diaspora:\r\n\r\nZimbabwe did indeed win independence from England through violence. That is history.\r\n\r\nTruth be told, Zimbabweans then turned their collective backs to the murder of some 20 thousand Ndebele instead of confronting Mubgabe then and there. Hitler was actually stopped dead in his tracks by a local German mayor who stood up to Hitler early on before he usurped power over life and death as Mugabe has done through the indifference of Zimbabweans and particularly the members of ZANU-PF who, much to their chagrin, are now suffering with everyone else.\r\n\r\nAs long as \&quot;it isn\&#039;t me\&quot; go ahead and feed friends and neighbors to the crocodile was the mantra of the day. Trouble is...now it\&#039;s them too and nobody to turn to and nobody else to feed to the croc.\r\n\r\nDear UK, if someone is beating you over the head with a knobkerrie and you\&#039;ve asked them politely to stop many times...then what...just kneel there and be beaten to death. Great idea! \r\n\r\nAs for me, \&quot;Give me liberty or give me death\&quot;.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Claudia &amp; UK diaspora:</p>
<p>Zimbabwe did indeed win independence from England through violence. That is history.</p>
<p>Truth be told, Zimbabweans then turned their collective backs to the murder of some 20 thousand Ndebele instead of confronting Mubgabe then and there. Hitler was actually stopped dead in his tracks by a local German mayor who stood up to Hitler early on before he usurped power over life and death as Mugabe has done through the indifference of Zimbabweans and particularly the members of ZANU-PF who, much to their chagrin, are now suffering with everyone else.</p>
<p>As long as &#8220;it isn&#8217;t me&#8221; go ahead and feed friends and neighbors to the crocodile was the mantra of the day. Trouble is&#8230;now it&#8217;s them too and nobody to turn to and nobody else to feed to the croc.</p>
<p>Dear UK, if someone is beating you over the head with a knobkerrie and you&#8217;ve asked them politely to stop many times&#8230;then what&#8230;just kneel there and be beaten to death. Great idea! </p>
<p>As for me, &#8220;Give me liberty or give me death&#8221;.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('272644','Lobengula'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('272644','Lobengula','To Claudia &amp;amp; UK diaspora:\r\n\r\nZimbabwe did indeed win independence from England through violence. That is history.\r\n\r\nTruth be told, Zimbabweans then turned their collective backs to the murder of some 20 thousand Ndebele instead of confronting Mubgabe then and there. Hitler was actually stopped dead in his tracks by a local German mayor who stood up to Hitler early on before he usurped power over life and death as Mugabe has done through the indifference of Zimbabweans and particularly the members of ZANU-PF who, much to their chagrin, are now suffering with everyone else.\r\n\r\nAs long as \&quot;it isn\'t me\&quot; go ahead and feed friends and neighbors to the crocodile was the mantra of the day. Trouble is...now it\'s them too and nobody to turn to and nobody else to feed to the croc.\r\n\r\nDear UK, if someone is beating you over the head with a knobkerrie and you\'ve asked them politely to stop many times...then what...just kneel there and be beaten to death. Great idea! \r\n\r\nAs for me, \&quot;Give me liberty or give me death\&quot;.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: UK Diaspora</title>
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		<dc:creator>UK Diaspora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-272639&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Quoting Lobengula&lt;/a&gt; to Claudia: but didn&#039;t Zimbabwe and the United States gain independence from England through violence?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Independence???? No. What Zimbabweans won was decades of servitude to a dictator and thug who started murdering the Ndelebe two years after he got to power.

The lesson is very simple and very clear: anyone who thinks that violence is a solution should &lt;u&gt;never EVER EVER EVER&lt;/u&gt; be allowed to rule a country.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;272641&#039;,&#039;UK Diaspora&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;272641&#039;,&#039;UK Diaspora&#039;,&#039;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href=\&#039;#comment-272639\&#039; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Quoting Lobengula&lt;\/a&gt; to Claudia: but didn\&#039;t Zimbabwe and the United States gain independence from England through violence?&lt;\/blockquote&gt;\r\n\r\nIndependence???? No. What Zimbabweans won was decades of servitude to a dictator and thug who started murdering the Ndelebe two years after he got to power.\r\n\r\nThe lesson is very simple and very clear: anyone who thinks that violence is a solution should &lt;u&gt;never EVER EVER EVER&lt;\/u&gt; be allowed to rule a country.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a href='#comment-272639' rel="nofollow">Quoting Lobengula</a> to Claudia: but didn&#8217;t Zimbabwe and the United States gain independence from England through violence?</p></blockquote>
<p>Independence???? No. What Zimbabweans won was decades of servitude to a dictator and thug who started murdering the Ndelebe two years after he got to power.</p>
<p>The lesson is very simple and very clear: anyone who thinks that violence is a solution should <u>never EVER EVER EVER</u> be allowed to rule a country.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('272641','UK Diaspora'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('272641','UK Diaspora','&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href=\'#comment-272639\' rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Quoting Lobengula&lt;\/a&gt; to Claudia: but didn\'t Zimbabwe and the United States gain independence from England through violence?&lt;\/blockquote&gt;\r\n\r\nIndependence???? No. What Zimbabweans won was decades of servitude to a dictator and thug who started murdering the Ndelebe two years after he got to power.\r\n\r\nThe lesson is very simple and very clear: anyone who thinks that violence is a solution should &lt;u&gt;never EVER EVER EVER&lt;\/u&gt; be allowed to rule a country.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: claudia lutter</title>
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		<dc:creator>claudia lutter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to Lobengula

what is that suppose to mean...because people have done it before you can do it again..haven&#039;t we all learned from the past? how can you adjudge people using violance to get what they want and use the same arms ... you obviously got a resolution, so go for it, what stops you from doing so?&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;272640&#039;,&#039;claudia lutter&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;272640&#039;,&#039;claudia lutter&#039;,&#039;to Lobengula\r\n\r\nwhat is that suppose to mean...because people have done it before you can do it again..haven\&#039;t we all learned from the past? how can you adjudge people using violance to get what they want and use the same arms ... you obviously got a resolution, so go for it, what stops you from doing so?&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to Lobengula</p>
<p>what is that suppose to mean&#8230;because people have done it before you can do it again..haven&#8217;t we all learned from the past? how can you adjudge people using violance to get what they want and use the same arms &#8230; you obviously got a resolution, so go for it, what stops you from doing so?
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		<title>By: Lobengula</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lobengula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to Claudia:

WOZA and similar demonstrations, while commendable, are too easily swept aside by heavily armed and violent police.

You say violence is never the answer but didn&#039;t Zimbabwe and the United States gain independence from England through violence?&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;272639&#039;,&#039;Lobengula&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;272639&#039;,&#039;Lobengula&#039;,&#039;to Claudia:\r\n\r\nWOZA and similar demonstrations, while commendable, are too easily swept aside by heavily armed and violent police.\r\n\r\nYou say violence is never the answer but didn\&#039;t Zimbabwe and the United States gain independence from England through violence?&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to Claudia:</p>
<p>WOZA and similar demonstrations, while commendable, are too easily swept aside by heavily armed and violent police.</p>
<p>You say violence is never the answer but didn&#8217;t Zimbabwe and the United States gain independence from England through violence?
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		<title>By: claudia lutter</title>
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		<dc:creator>claudia lutter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to Lobengula
 ... there was a demonstration from the Woza yesterday which startet with a handful people and it ended with 200... it ended as it begans, very quick cos of the police intervention, but they spread their flyer all over.. I know of the difficult coordination for a bigger demonstration, but does that mean it&#039;s not worse trying it and it also started very little in the former DDR... not that I want to compare it, but for me is violance never the answer.. it will only create more violance&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;272636&#039;,&#039;claudia lutter&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;272636&#039;,&#039;claudia lutter&#039;,&#039;to Lobengula\r\n ... there was a demonstration from the Woza yesterday which startet with a handful people and it ended with 200... it ended as it begans, very quick cos of the police intervention, but they spread their flyer all over.. I know of the difficult coordination for a bigger demonstration, but does that mean it\&#039;s not worse trying it and it also started very little in the former DDR... not that I want to compare it, but for me is violance never the answer.. it will only create more violance&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to Lobengula<br />
 &#8230; there was a demonstration from the Woza yesterday which startet with a handful people and it ended with 200&#8230; it ended as it begans, very quick cos of the police intervention, but they spread their flyer all over.. I know of the difficult coordination for a bigger demonstration, but does that mean it&#8217;s not worse trying it and it also started very little in the former DDR&#8230; not that I want to compare it, but for me is violance never the answer.. it will only create more violance
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		<title>By: Lobengula</title>
		<link>http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/2587/comment-page-1#comment-272634</link>
		<dc:creator>Lobengula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For Claudia Lutter

Yours was the only answer I&#039;ve seen with any teeth at all...ALL Zimbabweans take to the street at one time. That would overwhelm attempts at control by police intervention. Only massive numbers will work. Little groups here and there are easily crushed by the &quot;security forces&quot;. Time sensitive coordination is the only way that can happen and it will be very very difficult..

That could well be the start of &quot;pressure from within&quot;. 

Any other ideas I might suggest would be censored by this site which is why I&#039;ve never included them.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;272634&#039;,&#039;Lobengula&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;272634&#039;,&#039;Lobengula&#039;,&#039;For Claudia Lutter\r\n\r\nYours was the only answer I\&#039;ve seen with any teeth at all...ALL Zimbabweans take to the street at one time. That would overwhelm attempts at control by police intervention. Only massive numbers will work. Little groups here and there are easily crushed by the \&quot;security forces\&quot;. Time sensitive coordination is the only way that can happen and it will be very very difficult..\r\n\r\nThat could well be the start of \&quot;pressure from within\&quot;. \r\n\r\nAny other ideas I might suggest would be censored by this site which is why I\&#039;ve never included them.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For Claudia Lutter</p>
<p>Yours was the only answer I&#8217;ve seen with any teeth at all&#8230;ALL Zimbabweans take to the street at one time. That would overwhelm attempts at control by police intervention. Only massive numbers will work. Little groups here and there are easily crushed by the &#8220;security forces&#8221;. Time sensitive coordination is the only way that can happen and it will be very very difficult..</p>
<p>That could well be the start of &#8220;pressure from within&#8221;. </p>
<p>Any other ideas I might suggest would be censored by this site which is why I&#8217;ve never included them.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('272634','Lobengula'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('272634','Lobengula','For Claudia Lutter\r\n\r\nYours was the only answer I\'ve seen with any teeth at all...ALL Zimbabweans take to the street at one time. That would overwhelm attempts at control by police intervention. Only massive numbers will work. Little groups here and there are easily crushed by the \&quot;security forces\&quot;. Time sensitive coordination is the only way that can happen and it will be very very difficult..\r\n\r\nThat could well be the start of \&quot;pressure from within\&quot;. \r\n\r\nAny other ideas I might suggest would be censored by this site which is why I\'ve never included them.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: ommoder</title>
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		<dc:creator>ommoder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I answer to Kl:
Please contact the Zimbabwe Exiles Forum in SA, where you can send money to support Zim refugees who have benn tortured a home. Sometimes those people dont have the money to have their  residence permit prologed which they need to have a bit time to recover. Every one can contact my under the address s&#105;&#103;rid.&#100;ei&#115;s&#110;er&#64;t&#45;o&#110;&#108;i&#110;e.de if one wants to know a private address of someone who was tortured but is still in Zimbabwe because he has family and no passport but has no access to foreign currency which means the family is starving.The family even looks after destitute children in the streets giving them a part of what they have so scarcely, just to dry their tears a bit.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;272632&#039;,&#039;ommoder&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;272632&#039;,&#039;ommoder&#039;,&#039;I answer to Kl:\r\nPlease contact the Zimbabwe Exiles Forum in SA, where you can send money to support Zim refugees who have benn tortured a home. Sometimes those people dont have the money to have their  residence permit prologed which they need to have a bit time to recover. Every one can contact my under the address &#115;&#105;g&#114;id.deis&#115;n&#101;&#114;&#64;t&#45;o&#110;l&#105;ne&#46;d&#101; if one wants to know a private address of someone who was tortured but is still in Zimbabwe because he has family and no passport but has no access to foreign currency which means the family is starving.The family even looks after destitute children in the streets giving them a part of what they have so scarcely, just to dry their tears a bit.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I answer to Kl:<br />
Please contact the Zimbabwe Exiles Forum in SA, where you can send money to support Zim refugees who have benn tortured a home. Sometimes those people dont have the money to have their  residence permit prologed which they need to have a bit time to recover. Every one can contact my under the address <a href="&#109;&#97;&#105;lt&#111;:&#115;&#105;g&#114;&#105;&#100;&#46;&#100;e&#105;&#115;&#115;&#110;&#101;r&#64;&#116;&#45;&#111;&#110;l&#105;&#110;&#101;.d&#101;">&#115;ig&#114;&#105;d&#46;deis&#115;ne&#114;&#64;&#116;&#45;onli&#110;&#101;&#46;d&#101;</a> if one wants to know a private address of someone who was tortured but is still in Zimbabwe because he has family and no passport but has no access to foreign currency which means the family is starving.The family even looks after destitute children in the streets giving them a part of what they have so scarcely, just to dry their tears a bit.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('272632','ommoder'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('272632','ommoder','I answer to Kl:\r\nPlease contact the Zimbabwe Exiles Forum in SA, where you can send money to support Zim refugees who have benn tortured a home. Sometimes those people dont have the money to have their  residence permit prologed which they need to have a bit time to recover. Every one can contact my under the address <a href="m&#97;&#105;&#108;&#116;&#111;&#58;&#115;ig&#114;i&#100;&#46;deis&#115;&#110;e&#114;&#64;&#116;&#45;&#111;nli&#110;e&#46;de">s&#105;&#103;r&#105;d.d&#101;&#105;&#115;&#115;n&#101;&#114;&#64;t&#45;&#111;nl&#105;&#110;&#101;&#46;d&#101;</a> if one wants to know a private address of someone who was tortured but is still in Zimbabwe because he has family and no passport but has no access to foreign currency which means the family is starving.The family even looks after destitute children in the streets giving them a part of what they have so scarcely, just to dry their tears a bit.&#8217;); return false;&#8221;>Quote from this comment</div>
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		<title>By: KL</title>
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		<dc:creator>KL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 01:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I love that there is so much interest and passion in wanting  to aid zimbabwe through this difficult time. What I want and I&#039;m sure many of you may be interested in as well is possibly a website with information as to how to go about helping. If anyone knows any at all I would greatly appreciate it :)&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;272627&#039;,&#039;KL&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;272627&#039;,&#039;KL&#039;,&#039;So I love that there is so much interest and passion in wanting  to aid zimbabwe through this difficult time. What I want and I\&#039;m sure many of you may be interested in as well is possibly a website with information as to how to go about helping. If anyone knows any at all I would greatly appreciate it :)&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I love that there is so much interest and passion in wanting  to aid zimbabwe through this difficult time. What I want and I&#8217;m sure many of you may be interested in as well is possibly a website with information as to how to go about helping. If anyone knows any at all I would greatly appreciate it <img src='http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('272627','KL'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('272627','KL','So I love that there is so much interest and passion in wanting  to aid zimbabwe through this difficult time. What I want and I\'m sure many of you may be interested in as well is possibly a website with information as to how to go about helping. If anyone knows any at all I would greatly appreciate it :)'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: claudia lutter</title>
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		<dc:creator>claudia lutter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 15:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to know how many of these comments are actually coming from Zimbabwean? my advice would be the same as before: go on the street ALL of Zimbabwean... by the way, haven&#039;t seen many white recently or in the past at these demonstrations ... if the pressure is not coming from outside it can only come from inside.. what is your answer Lobengula?&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;272617&#039;,&#039;claudia lutter&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;272617&#039;,&#039;claudia lutter&#039;,&#039;I would like to know how many of these comments are actually coming from Zimbabwean? my advice would be the same as before: go on the street ALL of Zimbabwean... by the way, haven\&#039;t seen many white recently or in the past at these demonstrations ... if the pressure is not coming from outside it can only come from inside.. what is your answer Lobengula?&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to know how many of these comments are actually coming from Zimbabwean? my advice would be the same as before: go on the street ALL of Zimbabwean&#8230; by the way, haven&#8217;t seen many white recently or in the past at these demonstrations &#8230; if the pressure is not coming from outside it can only come from inside.. what is your answer Lobengula?
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		<title>By: Lobengula</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lobengula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 14:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a simple question to ask all Zimbabweans while we continue to wring our collective hands over current conditions and then call for &quot;putting pressure&quot; on others to somehow solve our problems for us...see all of the hand-wringing suggestions above.They&#039;ve all been tried before - ad nauseam.

The question:

What should a people do if their government makes war on them? 

So far all we have done is politely ask them not to while our people are starved, beaten, murdered, raped and humiliated to the point of a multiple disease disaster and a humanitarian debacle. Maybe WE should DO something to rid ourselves of the problem. Everyone else in the world knows what that problem is!&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;272616&#039;,&#039;Lobengula&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;272616&#039;,&#039;Lobengula&#039;,&#039;I have a simple question to ask all Zimbabweans while we continue to wring our collective hands over current conditions and then call for \&quot;putting pressure\&quot; on others to somehow solve our problems for us...see all of the hand-wringing suggestions above.They\&#039;ve all been tried before - ad nauseam.\r\n\r\nThe question:\r\n\r\nWhat should a people do if their government makes war on them? \r\n\r\nSo far all we have done is politely ask them not to while our people are starved, beaten, murdered, raped and humiliated to the point of a multiple disease disaster and a humanitarian debacle. Maybe WE should DO something to rid ourselves of the problem. Everyone else in the world knows what that problem is!&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a simple question to ask all Zimbabweans while we continue to wring our collective hands over current conditions and then call for &#8220;putting pressure&#8221; on others to somehow solve our problems for us&#8230;see all of the hand-wringing suggestions above.They&#8217;ve all been tried before &#8211; ad nauseam.</p>
<p>The question:</p>
<p>What should a people do if their government makes war on them? </p>
<p>So far all we have done is politely ask them not to while our people are starved, beaten, murdered, raped and humiliated to the point of a multiple disease disaster and a humanitarian debacle. Maybe WE should DO something to rid ourselves of the problem. Everyone else in the world knows what that problem is!
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('272616','Lobengula'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('272616','Lobengula','I have a simple question to ask all Zimbabweans while we continue to wring our collective hands over current conditions and then call for \&quot;putting pressure\&quot; on others to somehow solve our problems for us...see all of the hand-wringing suggestions above.They\'ve all been tried before - ad nauseam.\r\n\r\nThe question:\r\n\r\nWhat should a people do if their government makes war on them? \r\n\r\nSo far all we have done is politely ask them not to while our people are starved, beaten, murdered, raped and humiliated to the point of a multiple disease disaster and a humanitarian debacle. Maybe WE should DO something to rid ourselves of the problem. Everyone else in the world knows what that problem is!'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: Hjieronymus Bosch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hjieronymus Bosch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 12:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone stopped to ask the Elephants, Lions, Zebras and Bobyjons etc. etc. what they think of all this?

Afterall, the people, it seems get the Government they deserve?&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;272544&#039;,&#039;Hjieronymus Bosch&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;272544&#039;,&#039;Hjieronymus Bosch&#039;,&#039;Has anyone stopped to ask the Elephants, Lions, Zebras and Bobyjons etc. etc. what they think of all this?\r\n\r\nAfterall, the people, it seems get the Government they deserve?&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone stopped to ask the Elephants, Lions, Zebras and Bobyjons etc. etc. what they think of all this?</p>
<p>Afterall, the people, it seems get the Government they deserve?
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 11:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>specific Zimbabwe appeal from Save the Children. Save the Children are currently on the ground now in Zimbabwe. So the best way to raise awareness is send this link to everyone you know.

https://www.savethechildren.org.uk/secure/7052.htm&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;272542&#039;,&#039;Jim&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;272542&#039;,&#039;Jim&#039;,&#039;specific Zimbabwe appeal from Save the Children. Save the Children are currently on the ground now in Zimbabwe. So the best way to raise awareness is send this link to everyone you know.\r\n\r\nhttps:\/\/www.savethechildren.org.uk\/secure\/7052.htm&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>specific Zimbabwe appeal from Save the Children. Save the Children are currently on the ground now in Zimbabwe. So the best way to raise awareness is send this link to everyone you know.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.savethechildren.org.uk/secure/7052.htm" rel="nofollow">https://www.savethechildren.org.uk/secure/7052.htm</a>
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		<title>By: KaryAnn</title>
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		<dc:creator>KaryAnn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 04:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am very interested in helping the people of Zimbabwe with the Cholera out break. I have researched online but can&#039;t find any sites dedicated to the cause. I would like to do fundraising and raise awareness of the issue in my community. If anyone has any information that would be great. Thank you :)&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;272539&#039;,&#039;KaryAnn&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;272539&#039;,&#039;KaryAnn&#039;,&#039;I am very interested in helping the people of Zimbabwe with the Cholera out break. I have researched online but can\&#039;t find any sites dedicated to the cause. I would like to do fundraising and raise awareness of the issue in my community. If anyone has any information that would be great. Thank you :)&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am very interested in helping the people of Zimbabwe with the Cholera out break. I have researched online but can&#8217;t find any sites dedicated to the cause. I would like to do fundraising and raise awareness of the issue in my community. If anyone has any information that would be great. Thank you <img src='http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>By: ommoder</title>
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		<dc:creator>ommoder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to comment to &quot;Concerned citizen&quot;:

Gono is not the problem he is just an opportunistic idiot, who does exactly what he is told to do by his &quot;Seniors&quot;. Even if you bomb him today there will be another two or three who will behave quite the same.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;272510&#039;,&#039;ommoder&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;272510&#039;,&#039;ommoder&#039;,&#039;I want to comment to \&quot;Concerned citizen\&quot;:\r\n\r\nGono is not the problem he is just an opportunistic idiot, who does exactly what he is told to do by his \&quot;Seniors\&quot;. Even if you bomb him today there will be another two or three who will behave quite the same.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to comment to &#8220;Concerned citizen&#8221;:</p>
<p>Gono is not the problem he is just an opportunistic idiot, who does exactly what he is told to do by his &#8220;Seniors&#8221;. Even if you bomb him today there will be another two or three who will behave quite the same.
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		<title>By: Concerned citizen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Concerned citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 13:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to congratulate you on this initiative, it is very valuable and already you see that there actually are things each and every one of us can do. By sharing ideas you can come to more and better ideas.

I would suggest making sure Gono can&#039;t go to his office anymore! It is unacceptable that his term is extended and i dont understand why there is so little public outcry over that, why people or the army didnt spontaneously block him from going to work yesterday. He is THE main cause of the economic hardships and as long as he is in there, nobody&#039;s life will improve even a bit. Why would anybody believe his hollow promise of bringing down inflation below double digit numbers by 2013, and why does he set such an un ambigious target? by that time the country will be really gone..... the army could start turning their anger on his office and ousting him instead of on innocent civilians they are supposed to protect - their first line of duty is towards the people though they seem to have forgotten that after all those years.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;272504&#039;,&#039;Concerned citizen&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;272504&#039;,&#039;Concerned citizen&#039;,&#039;I want to congratulate you on this initiative, it is very valuable and already you see that there actually are things each and every one of us can do. By sharing ideas you can come to more and better ideas.\r\n\r\nI would suggest making sure Gono can\&#039;t go to his office anymore! It is unacceptable that his term is extended and i dont understand why there is so little public outcry over that, why people or the army didnt spontaneously block him from going to work yesterday. He is THE main cause of the economic hardships and as long as he is in there, nobody\&#039;s life will improve even a bit. Why would anybody believe his hollow promise of bringing down inflation below double digit numbers by 2013, and why does he set such an un ambigious target? by that time the country will be really gone..... the army could start turning their anger on his office and ousting him instead of on innocent civilians they are supposed to protect - their first line of duty is towards the people though they seem to have forgotten that after all those years.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to congratulate you on this initiative, it is very valuable and already you see that there actually are things each and every one of us can do. By sharing ideas you can come to more and better ideas.</p>
<p>I would suggest making sure Gono can&#8217;t go to his office anymore! It is unacceptable that his term is extended and i dont understand why there is so little public outcry over that, why people or the army didnt spontaneously block him from going to work yesterday. He is THE main cause of the economic hardships and as long as he is in there, nobody&#8217;s life will improve even a bit. Why would anybody believe his hollow promise of bringing down inflation below double digit numbers by 2013, and why does he set such an un ambigious target? by that time the country will be really gone&#8230;.. the army could start turning their anger on his office and ousting him instead of on innocent civilians they are supposed to protect &#8211; their first line of duty is towards the people though they seem to have forgotten that after all those years.
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