Comments on: ‘Change’ is not enough: Zimbabweans want more http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/4313 This is Zimbabwe is Sokwanele's pro-democracy activist blog. It provides grassroots news and views from Zimbabwe. Wed, 08 Feb 2012 04:20:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Jamie K http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/4313/comment-page-1#comment-274185 Jamie K Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:25:40 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=4313#comment-274185 As long as Mugabe is around, no government will provide any significant funding. Mugabe always was and always will be a crook. [...]<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('274185','Jamie K'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('274185','Jamie K','As long as Mugabe is around, no government will provide any significant funding. Mugabe always was and always will be a crook. [...]'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> As long as Mugabe is around, no government will provide any significant funding. Mugabe always was and always will be a crook. [...]
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]]> By: Faraway http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/4313/comment-page-1#comment-274157 Faraway Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:13:38 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=4313#comment-274157 While Mugabe and his top henchmen are in government, very little will change. Mugabe has Morgan exactly where he wants him, wrapped around his little finger. Come next election and the people will be disenchanted with Morgan. Morgan will lose another fraudulent election, and everything will be back where it was, in a mess. Rid of the conniving and brutal top ZanuPf leadership first, then Zimbabwe will change. Bit like Iran really. In fact, Since Mugabe is very friendly with the irrational and unbalanced Ahmadinejad, did Iran intelligence ever meddle in the Zimbabwe fraudulent elections.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('274157','Faraway'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('274157','Faraway','While Mugabe and his top henchmen are in government, very little will change. Mugabe has Morgan exactly where he wants him, wrapped around his little finger.\r\n\r\nCome next election and the people will be disenchanted with Morgan. Morgan will lose another fraudulent election, and everything will be back where it was, in a mess.\r\n\r\nRid of the conniving and brutal top ZanuPf leadership first, then Zimbabwe will change.\r\n\r\nBit like Iran really. In fact, Since Mugabe is very friendly with the irrational and unbalanced Ahmadinejad, did Iran intelligence ever meddle in the Zimbabwe fraudulent elections.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> While Mugabe and his top henchmen are in government, very little will change. Mugabe has Morgan exactly where he wants him, wrapped around his little finger.

Come next election and the people will be disenchanted with Morgan. Morgan will lose another fraudulent election, and everything will be back where it was, in a mess.

Rid of the conniving and brutal top ZanuPf leadership first, then Zimbabwe will change.

Bit like Iran really. In fact, Since Mugabe is very friendly with the irrational and unbalanced Ahmadinejad, did Iran intelligence ever meddle in the Zimbabwe fraudulent elections.

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]]> By: Ants http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/4313/comment-page-1#comment-274155 Ants Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:20:39 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=4313#comment-274155 <a href='#comment-274149' rel="nofollow">@UK - Diaspora</a> - I'm with you. I'm afraid that while Mugabe is in the picture Zim does not deserve anyone thinking of returning home. It may not be in the same scale of atrocities, but it would be tantamount to suggesting Jewish people return to Germany while Hitler was alive. A naive and foolish comment from Morgan. So, Morgan and MDC, let me remind you how things really work. When there is freedom to title, and freedom to conduct business, and freedom to employ at will, and facilities are in place to ensure 'institutions' like schools, hospitals, government services and the like all function and you can guarantee that these rights will not be revoked at whim - then, by all means, invite the people who built the country to return.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('274155','Ants'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('274155','Ants','<a href=\'#comment-274149\' rel=\"nofollow\">@UK - Diaspora<\/a> - I\'m with you. I\'m afraid that while Mugabe is in the picture Zim does not deserve anyone thinking of returning home.\r\n\r\nIt may not be in the same scale of atrocities, but it would be tantamount to suggesting Jewish people return to Germany while Hitler was alive.\r\n\r\nA naive and foolish comment from Morgan.\r\n\r\nSo, Morgan and MDC, let me remind you how things really work. When there is freedom to title, and freedom to conduct business, and freedom to employ at will, and facilities are in place to ensure \'institutions\' like schools, hospitals, government services and the like all function and you can guarantee that these rights will not be revoked at whim - then, by all means, invite the people who built the country to return.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> @UK – Diaspora – I’m with you. I’m afraid that while Mugabe is in the picture Zim does not deserve anyone thinking of returning home.

It may not be in the same scale of atrocities, but it would be tantamount to suggesting Jewish people return to Germany while Hitler was alive.

A naive and foolish comment from Morgan.

So, Morgan and MDC, let me remind you how things really work. When there is freedom to title, and freedom to conduct business, and freedom to employ at will, and facilities are in place to ensure ‘institutions’ like schools, hospitals, government services and the like all function and you can guarantee that these rights will not be revoked at whim – then, by all means, invite the people who built the country to return.

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]]> By: Graham (the original) http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/4313/comment-page-1#comment-274154 Graham (the original) Tue, 23 Jun 2009 04:05:38 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=4313#comment-274154 Morgan, don't waste your breath trying to whitewash the facts and tell us things are okay in Zim - we know they're not, and never will be while Mugabe and his thugs hold onto the justice and security apparatus and are able to white-ant any of your small improvements on the ground. You would get a completely different reception in the Diaspora if you could show us that you have arranged for everyone in the Diaspora to have a postal/overseas vote in the next election.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('274154','Graham (the original)'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('274154','Graham (the original)','Morgan, don\'t waste your breath trying to whitewash the facts and tell us things are okay in Zim - we know they\'re not, and never will be while Mugabe and his thugs hold onto the justice and security apparatus and are able to white-ant any of your small improvements on the ground. \r\n\r\nYou would get a completely different reception in the Diaspora if you could show us that you have arranged for everyone in the Diaspora to have a postal\/overseas vote in the next election.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> Morgan, don’t waste your breath trying to whitewash the facts and tell us things are okay in Zim – we know they’re not, and never will be while Mugabe and his thugs hold onto the justice and security apparatus and are able to white-ant any of your small improvements on the ground.

You would get a completely different reception in the Diaspora if you could show us that you have arranged for everyone in the Diaspora to have a postal/overseas vote in the next election.

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]]> By: True Grit http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/4313/comment-page-1#comment-274152 True Grit Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:42:19 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=4313#comment-274152 As Eddie Cross writes elsehere, Mugabe has always been afraid of losing power, and has, in fact, been entirely willing to do whatever it takes to retain it. From the Shona Fifth Brigade let loose on the Ndebele in the early years to the mobs of supposed veterans seizing white-owned farms turning the breadbasket of africa into a land of famine, Mugabe has been a deeply dangerous opponent to take on. And yet the MDC have done so. they have challenged him, and in so doing they have challenged the validation of his power. The tide is with them. The murderous career of Robert Mugabe wiil, like the totalitarians of the last century, enter the history books with shame.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('274152','True Grit'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('274152','True Grit','As Eddie Cross writes elsehere, Mugabe has always been afraid of losing power, and has, in fact, been entirely willing to do whatever it takes to retain it. From the Shona Fifth Brigade let loose on the Ndebele in the early years to the mobs of supposed veterans seizing white-owned farms turning the breadbasket of africa into a land of famine, Mugabe has been a deeply dangerous opponent to take on. And yet the MDC have done so. they have challenged him, and in so doing they have challenged the validation of his power. The tide is with them. The murderous career of Robert Mugabe wiil, like the totalitarians of the last century, enter the history books with shame.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> As Eddie Cross writes elsehere, Mugabe has always been afraid of losing power, and has, in fact, been entirely willing to do whatever it takes to retain it. From the Shona Fifth Brigade let loose on the Ndebele in the early years to the mobs of supposed veterans seizing white-owned farms turning the breadbasket of africa into a land of famine, Mugabe has been a deeply dangerous opponent to take on. And yet the MDC have done so. they have challenged him, and in so doing they have challenged the validation of his power. The tide is with them. The murderous career of Robert Mugabe wiil, like the totalitarians of the last century, enter the history books with shame.
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]]> By: Jim http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/4313/comment-page-1#comment-274150 Jim Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:50:43 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=4313#comment-274150 I suppose there is a real danger that people won't actually bother to vote, disillusioned by the so called democratic process. They never get the change they want, crave or vote for en mass. If this were to happen, then ZPF would get a legitimate majority and we are back to square one...how depsressing.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('274150','Jim'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('274150','Jim','I suppose there is a real danger that people won\'t actually bother to vote, disillusioned by the so called democratic process. They never get the change they want, crave or vote for en mass. If this were to happen, then ZPF would get a legitimate majority and we are back to square one...how depsressing.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> I suppose there is a real danger that people won’t actually bother to vote, disillusioned by the so called democratic process. They never get the change they want, crave or vote for en mass. If this were to happen, then ZPF would get a legitimate majority and we are back to square one…how depsressing.
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]]> By: UK - Diaspora http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/4313/comment-page-1#comment-274149 UK - Diaspora Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:22:26 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=4313#comment-274149 If Zimbabweans lose faith in their politicians then it's not suprising that western donors aren't brimming with confidence either. My response to those who heckled MT in London is "GOOD" and "WELL DONE". Keep it up until politicos get their act together and make REAL changes... like the ones we want and demand.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('274149','UK - Diaspora'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('274149','UK - Diaspora','If Zimbabweans lose faith in their politicians then it\'s not suprising that western donors aren\'t brimming with confidence either. \r\n\r\nMy response to those who heckled MT in London is \"GOOD\" and \"WELL DONE\". Keep it up until politicos get their act together and make REAL changes... like the ones we want and demand.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> If Zimbabweans lose faith in their politicians then it’s not suprising that western donors aren’t brimming with confidence either.

My response to those who heckled MT in London is “GOOD” and “WELL DONE”. Keep it up until politicos get their act together and make REAL changes… like the ones we want and demand.

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