Comments on: Mugabe Dishonoured by Edinburgh University http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/578 This is Zimbabwe is Sokwanele's pro-democracy activist blog. It provides grassroots news and views from Zimbabwe. Fri, 05 Dec 2008 12:17:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: sidlyderious http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/578#comment-84384 sidlyderious Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:06:51 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/578#comment-84384 True Zimbabwean, I take it you are posting this while living in the country?<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('84384','sidlyderious'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('84384','sidlyderious','True Zimbabwean, I take it you are posting this while living in the country?'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> True Zimbabwean, I take it you are posting this while living in the country?
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]]> By: Mahmood Abaza http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/578#comment-68013 Mahmood Abaza Thu, 21 Jun 2007 12:05:31 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/578#comment-68013 Truly Zimbo above seems to be tormented by a "greenbomber" mentality or the ancient gladiator testosterone. In the same breath the authour prescribes and proscribes. Stand there and fight like a man! Dont cut and run like a sissie!Haaaha! Truly Zimbo enough! The greenbomber, one-way thinking tendency. One is either with the people or without them. The people who are not in Zimbabwe only lack death certicifates but they are considered as dead people, not allowed the vote by the silly zimbos who rule the dying country except if you are on a govt holiday/vacation in the meaningless embassies the zimbo govt has planted across the entire planet. Because to work for Zim embassy is like being on paid govt vacation/leave, paid in forex, you dont have to have qualifications(like in international relations) but strong corrupting relations. Let me just end this discourse by saying that the fight for democracy and against dictator is multidemensional and not limited by the space you occupy on the planet. Nearness to the dictator may give you an advantage to eat the crumbs from his table, to shoot him or slash him by the sword or to polish his boots. But "awayness" makes fighters for justice and democracy adopt other strategies, use of the pen not a dagger, internetdiscourse which is soon to intercepted by the new law, cultivate home connections to keep those who fighting fight. When it comes foreign currency even the regime likes what the "dead aways" send back to their relatives who may be to weak to leave the grave in which they are buried alive- a new gukurahundi chapter the nation is going through. I can only hope that if you are seious about issues you will get out of the greenbomber mentality and realize that the view given by govt controlled media is propaganda or a lalaby for the lame minds. Mahmood Abaza<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('68013','Mahmood Abaza'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('68013','Mahmood Abaza','Truly Zimbo above seems to be tormented by a \"greenbomber\" mentality or the ancient gladiator testosterone. In the same breath the authour prescribes and proscribes. Stand there and fight like a man! Dont cut and run like a sissie!Haaaha! Truly Zimbo enough! The greenbomber, one-way thinking tendency. One is either with the people or without them. The people who are not in Zimbabwe only lack death certicifates but they are considered as dead people, not allowed the vote by the silly zimbos who rule the dying country except if you are on a govt holiday\/vacation in the meaningless embassies the zimbo govt has planted across the entire planet. Because to work for Zim embassy is like being on paid govt vacation\/leave, paid in forex, you dont have to have qualifications(like in international relations) but strong corrupting relations.\r\nLet me just end this discourse by saying that the fight for democracy and against dictator is multidemensional and not limited by the space you occupy on the planet. Nearness to the dictator may give you an advantage to eat the crumbs from his table, to shoot him or slash him by the sword or to polish his boots. But \"awayness\" makes fighters for justice and democracy adopt other strategies, use of the pen not a dagger, internetdiscourse which is soon to intercepted by the new law, cultivate home connections to keep those who fighting fight. When it comes foreign currency even the regime likes what the \"dead aways\" send back to their relatives who may be to weak to leave the grave in which they are buried alive- a new gukurahundi chapter the nation is going through. I can only hope that if you are seious about issues you will get out of the greenbomber mentality and realize that the view given by govt controlled media is propaganda or a lalaby for the lame minds.\r\nMahmood Abaza'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> Truly Zimbo above seems to be tormented by a “greenbomber” mentality or the ancient gladiator testosterone. In the same breath the authour prescribes and proscribes. Stand there and fight like a man! Dont cut and run like a sissie!Haaaha! Truly Zimbo enough! The greenbomber, one-way thinking tendency. One is either with the people or without them. The people who are not in Zimbabwe only lack death certicifates but they are considered as dead people, not allowed the vote by the silly zimbos who rule the dying country except if you are on a govt holiday/vacation in the meaningless embassies the zimbo govt has planted across the entire planet. Because to work for Zim embassy is like being on paid govt vacation/leave, paid in forex, you dont have to have qualifications(like in international relations) but strong corrupting relations.
Let me just end this discourse by saying that the fight for democracy and against dictator is multidemensional and not limited by the space you occupy on the planet. Nearness to the dictator may give you an advantage to eat the crumbs from his table, to shoot him or slash him by the sword or to polish his boots. But “awayness” makes fighters for justice and democracy adopt other strategies, use of the pen not a dagger, internetdiscourse which is soon to intercepted by the new law, cultivate home connections to keep those who fighting fight. When it comes foreign currency even the regime likes what the “dead aways” send back to their relatives who may be to weak to leave the grave in which they are buried alive- a new gukurahundi chapter the nation is going through. I can only hope that if you are seious about issues you will get out of the greenbomber mentality and realize that the view given by govt controlled media is propaganda or a lalaby for the lame minds.
Mahmood Abaza
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]]> By: for Nora http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/578#comment-65782 for Nora Fri, 15 Jun 2007 23:23:06 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/578#comment-65782 Oh come of it TZ. The fact that you are not in Zimbabwe explains a lot. If your degree was available at the UZ would you go there really... You are not in Zim coz you have choices which is more than can be said of millions of Zimbabweans youths whose fate is derilict lecture rooms, paltry payouts and no prospects after they finish their degrees. The oppossition did not mess up the country ...Mugabe did. Despite ZANU PF's propaganda which you seem to believe the only sanctions the west has placed on Zimbabwe are personal travel bans and freezing of illgotten gains that had been syphoned into European bank accounts by our esteemed leaders. We have not qualified for the aids fund because they messed up the proposal...this is true not because anyone hates us. Bilatereal development aid we wont get because our very esteemed leader tells the west to go hang.. while we the massses continue to do on a daily basis. However for your information the west still gives significant amounts in humanitarian aid.... i dont believe in this because it creates dependency but this is what Mugabe has reduced us to.. a once proud self reliant people to a nation that is pitied. I have no patience with armchair critics. Mugabe is not partially to blame... he is to blame.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('65782','for Nora'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('65782','for Nora','Oh come of it TZ. The fact that you are not in Zimbabwe explains a lot. If your degree was available at the UZ would you go there really... You are not in Zim coz you have choices which is more than can be said of millions of Zimbabweans youths whose fate is derilict lecture rooms, paltry payouts and no prospects after they finish their degrees. The oppossition did not mess up the country ...Mugabe did. Despite ZANU PF\'s propaganda which you seem to believe the only sanctions the west has placed on Zimbabwe are personal travel bans and freezing of illgotten gains that had been syphoned into European bank accounts by our esteemed leaders. We have not qualified for the aids fund because they messed up the proposal...this is true not because anyone hates us. Bilatereal development aid we wont get because our very esteemed leader tells the west to go hang.. while we the massses continue to do on a daily basis. However for your information the west still gives significant amounts in humanitarian aid.... i dont believe in this because it creates dependency but this is what Mugabe has reduced us to.. a once proud self reliant people to a nation that is pitied. I have no patience with armchair critics. Mugabe is not partially to blame... he is to blame.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> Oh come of it TZ. The fact that you are not in Zimbabwe explains a lot. If your degree was available at the UZ would you go there really… You are not in Zim coz you have choices which is more than can be said of millions of Zimbabweans youths whose fate is derilict lecture rooms, paltry payouts and no prospects after they finish their degrees. The oppossition did not mess up the country …Mugabe did. Despite ZANU PF’s propaganda which you seem to believe the only sanctions the west has placed on Zimbabwe are personal travel bans and freezing of illgotten gains that had been syphoned into European bank accounts by our esteemed leaders. We have not qualified for the aids fund because they messed up the proposal…this is true not because anyone hates us. Bilatereal development aid we wont get because our very esteemed leader tells the west to go hang.. while we the massses continue to do on a daily basis. However for your information the west still gives significant amounts in humanitarian aid…. i dont believe in this because it creates dependency but this is what Mugabe has reduced us to.. a once proud self reliant people to a nation that is pitied. I have no patience with armchair critics. Mugabe is not partially to blame… he is to blame.
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]]> By: Truely Zimbo http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/578#comment-64136 Truely Zimbo Mon, 11 Jun 2007 18:36:40 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/578#comment-64136 Mugabe might be partially to blame for the situation in Zimbabwe but it falls squarely on all Zimbos. even in a household when a father falters, you dont go around the neighbourhood whining like little boys and asking people not to assist. Pertaining to the Aids case, raised, Do you know that Zim is the only sub sahara country not receiving free ARVs or Aids assistance under the guise of sanctions? we the first country to have an aids levy also. the opposition goes about asking for power to be cut and fuel supplies blocked. So all in all, Zim has a dysfunctional goverment and a dead opposition! until we get more serious politicians , opposition or ruling, we aint going no where as a nation. by the way, how many people have fled the country? real men stay and fight not flee. Give me freedom or give me death! if it wasnt for academic purposes id be still in zim but the degree isnt offered there but il be there to stand up for wut i believe in when the time comes. food for thot!<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('64136','Truely Zimbo'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('64136','Truely Zimbo','Mugabe might be partially to blame for the situation in Zimbabwe but it falls squarely on all Zimbos. even in a household when a father falters, you dont go around the neighbourhood whining like little boys and asking people not to assist. Pertaining to the Aids case, raised, Do you know that Zim is the only sub sahara country not receiving free ARVs or Aids assistance under the guise of sanctions? we the first country to have an aids levy also. the opposition goes about asking for power to be cut and fuel supplies blocked. So all in all, Zim has a dysfunctional goverment and a dead opposition! until we get more serious politicians , opposition or ruling, we aint going no where as a nation. by the way, how many people have fled the country? real men stay and fight not flee. Give me freedom or give me death! if it wasnt for academic purposes id be still in zim but the degree isnt offered there but il be there to stand up for wut i believe in when the time comes. food for thot!'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> Mugabe might be partially to blame for the situation in Zimbabwe but it falls squarely on all Zimbos. even in a household when a father falters, you dont go around the neighbourhood whining like little boys and asking people not to assist. Pertaining to the Aids case, raised, Do you know that Zim is the only sub sahara country not receiving free ARVs or Aids assistance under the guise of sanctions? we the first country to have an aids levy also. the opposition goes about asking for power to be cut and fuel supplies blocked. So all in all, Zim has a dysfunctional goverment and a dead opposition! until we get more serious politicians , opposition or ruling, we aint going no where as a nation. by the way, how many people have fled the country? real men stay and fight not flee. Give me freedom or give me death! if it wasnt for academic purposes id be still in zim but the degree isnt offered there but il be there to stand up for wut i believe in when the time comes. food for thot!
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]]> By: Tammy http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/578#comment-62890 Tammy Fri, 08 Jun 2007 16:34:44 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/578#comment-62890 This is a good start hopefully others will follow.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('62890','Tammy'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('62890','Tammy','This is a good start hopefully others will follow.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> This is a good start hopefully others will follow.
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]]> By: for Nora http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/578#comment-61338 for Nora Tue, 05 Jun 2007 20:40:36 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/578#comment-61338 I am trully shocked by people who confuse the fear induced calmness that is in Zimbabwe for safety. TZ you can not be trully Zimbabwean if you fail to acknowledge the real issues in Zimbabwe today. Safety is not just about being mugged on a street corner. As a nation we have not been safe since this man came into power. We have been psychologically traumatised to normalize the abnormal. When a government kidnaps a copse, punches the opposition and the head of state brags about it on television saying 'vakarakashwa' you know you are in trouble. Please lets not be simplistic lest history judges us harshly.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('61338','for Nora'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('61338','for Nora','I am trully shocked by people who confuse the fear induced calmness that is in Zimbabwe for safety. TZ you can not be trully Zimbabwean if you fail to acknowledge the real issues in Zimbabwe today. Safety is not just about being mugged on a street corner. As a nation we have not been safe since this man came into power. We have been psychologically traumatised to normalize the abnormal. When a government kidnaps a copse, punches the opposition and the head of state brags about it on television saying \'vakarakashwa\' you know you are in trouble. Please lets not be simplistic lest history judges us harshly.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> I am trully shocked by people who confuse the fear induced calmness that is in Zimbabwe for safety. TZ you can not be trully Zimbabwean if you fail to acknowledge the real issues in Zimbabwe today. Safety is not just about being mugged on a street corner. As a nation we have not been safe since this man came into power. We have been psychologically traumatised to normalize the abnormal. When a government kidnaps a copse, punches the opposition and the head of state brags about it on television saying ‘vakarakashwa’ you know you are in trouble. Please lets not be simplistic lest history judges us harshly.
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]]> By: Robert Sharp http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/578#comment-61194 Robert Sharp Tue, 05 Jun 2007 14:25:48 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/578#comment-61194 <strong>Man without honour...</strong> I missed the Sunday papers, but I am glad I spotted the news that The University of Edinburgh have managed to strip Robert Mugabe of his honorary degree (via This Is Zimbabwe). Its a gesture, but an important step in discrediting this dictator, and ...<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('61194','Robert Sharp'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('61194','Robert Sharp','<strong>Man without honour...<\/strong>\n\n\nI missed the Sunday papers, but I am glad I spotted the news that The University of Edinburgh have managed to strip Robert Mugabe of his honorary degree (via This Is Zimbabwe). \nIts a gesture, but an important step in discrediting this dictator, and ...'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> Man without honour…

I missed the Sunday papers, but I am glad I spotted the news that The University of Edinburgh have managed to strip Robert Mugabe of his honorary degree (via This Is Zimbabwe).
Its a gesture, but an important step in discrediting this dictator, and …

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]]> By: Robert http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/578#comment-61189 Robert Tue, 05 Jun 2007 14:10:20 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/578#comment-61189 Oh come off it, TZ - Try telling those slaughtered in Matabele land that things are "proportion". Statistical saftety means nothing in a country with such a low life expectancy due to AIDS and poverty. Statistical safety means nothing to those thousands currently being terrorised by Mugabe's regime. A true Zimbabwean would be appalled at the depths to which this country, once so full of potential, has sunk.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('61189','Robert'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('61189','Robert','Oh come off it, TZ - Try telling those slaughtered in Matabele land that things are \"proportion\". Statistical saftety means nothing in a country with such a low life expectancy due to AIDS and poverty. Statistical safety means nothing to those thousands currently being terrorised by Mugabe\'s regime. A true Zimbabwean would be appalled at the depths to which this country, once so full of potential, has sunk.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> Oh come off it, TZ - Try telling those slaughtered in Matabele land that things are “proportion”. Statistical saftety means nothing in a country with such a low life expectancy due to AIDS and poverty. Statistical safety means nothing to those thousands currently being terrorised by Mugabe’s regime. A true Zimbabwean would be appalled at the depths to which this country, once so full of potential, has sunk.
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]]> By: Am feeling not so safe http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/578#comment-61143 Am feeling not so safe Tue, 05 Jun 2007 12:02:41 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/578#comment-61143 Zimbabwe is safe for as long as you keep your mouth shut dont complain and dont demand normal human rights and dignity that everyone else in the world takes for granted. I do not believe this can be called safe. I have had a gun pointed at me while my four year old daughter screamed for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Believe you me I did not feel safe then. Oh and to inflation...when children are being forced to go hungry because someone messed up the economy...I can tell you they do not feel safe then.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('61143','Am feeling not so safe'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('61143','Am feeling not so safe','Zimbabwe is safe for as long as you keep your mouth shut dont complain and dont demand normal human rights and dignity that everyone else in the world takes for granted. I do not believe this can be called safe. I have had a gun pointed at me while my four year old daughter screamed for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Believe you me I did not feel safe then. Oh and to inflation...when children are being forced to go hungry because someone messed up the economy...I can tell you they do not feel safe then.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> Zimbabwe is safe for as long as you keep your mouth shut dont complain and dont demand normal human rights and dignity that everyone else in the world takes for granted. I do not believe this can be called safe. I have had a gun pointed at me while my four year old daughter screamed for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Believe you me I did not feel safe then. Oh and to inflation…when children are being forced to go hungry because someone messed up the economy…I can tell you they do not feel safe then.
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]]> By: True Zimbabwean http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/578#comment-60601 True Zimbabwean Mon, 04 Jun 2007 16:39:51 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/578#comment-60601 Please lets be totally honest about the situation in Zimbabwe. yes things are really really bad but lets not try to blow things out of propotion. The only thing likely to hurt you in Zim is inflation not all the violence preached about. we are statistically the fifth safest country in Africa and anyone whose's been to Harare will testify. A people without a history are a people without a future but lets not history cloud our future.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('60601','True Zimbabwean'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('60601','True Zimbabwean','Please lets be totally honest about the situation in Zimbabwe. yes things are really really bad but lets not try to blow things out of propotion. The only thing likely to hurt you in Zim is inflation not all the violence preached about. we are statistically the fifth safest country in Africa and anyone whose\'s been to Harare will testify. A people without a history are a people without a future but lets not history cloud our future.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> Please lets be totally honest about the situation in Zimbabwe. yes things are really really bad but lets not try to blow things out of propotion. The only thing likely to hurt you in Zim is inflation not all the violence preached about. we are statistically the fifth safest country in Africa and anyone whose’s been to Harare will testify. A people without a history are a people without a future but lets not history cloud our future.
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