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	<title>Comments on: Australia deports eight students whose parents have links with Zanu-PF</title>
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		<title>By: concerned</title>
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		<dc:creator>concerned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 17:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>soldier...
Danayi didn't fail architecture twice. She left at her own after the first yr, point clear.
Guys, I'm really feeling sorry for you, but it's pathetic when the kids' teeth rot because the parents ate the sour grape. Was there no other way of teaching the dictators a listen without punishing the innocent kids? I miss Danayi heaps, she was a nice girl&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('102983','concerned'); return false;"&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('102983','concerned','soldier...\r\nDanayi didn\'t fail architecture twice. She left at her own after the first yr, point clear.\r\nGuys, I\'m really feeling sorry for you, but it\'s pathetic when the kids\' teeth rot because the parents ate the sour grape. Was there no other way of teaching the dictators a listen without punishing the innocent kids? I miss Danayi heaps, she was a nice girl'); return false;"&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>soldier&#8230;<br />
Danayi didn&#8217;t fail architecture twice. She left at her own after the first yr, point clear.<br />
Guys, I&#8217;m really feeling sorry for you, but it&#8217;s pathetic when the kids&#8217; teeth rot because the parents ate the sour grape. Was there no other way of teaching the dictators a listen without punishing the innocent kids? I miss Danayi heaps, she was a nice girl
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('102983','concerned'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('102983','concerned','soldier...\r\nDanayi didn\'t fail architecture twice. She left at her own after the first yr, point clear.\r\nGuys, I\'m really feeling sorry for you, but it\'s pathetic when the kids\' teeth rot because the parents ate the sour grape. Was there no other way of teaching the dictators a listen without punishing the innocent kids? I miss Danayi heaps, she was a nice girl'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: NoMsa Dube</title>
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		<dc:creator>NoMsa Dube</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 09:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would one comment that the children are being punished is it a puinishment to live in Zimbabwe. If it is then zimbabweans are being punished then if it is not why would think they are being punished. They must go and live in Zimbabwe&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('99708','NoMsa Dube'); return false;"&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('99708','NoMsa Dube','Why would one comment that the children are being punished is it a puinishment to live in Zimbabwe. If it is then zimbabweans are being punished then if it is not why would think they are being punished. They must go and live in Zimbabwe'); return false;"&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would one comment that the children are being punished is it a puinishment to live in Zimbabwe. If it is then zimbabweans are being punished then if it is not why would think they are being punished. They must go and live in Zimbabwe
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		<title>By: soldier</title>
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		<dc:creator>soldier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 05:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finaly justice had been done...This kids were here to spoil zimbabwean money while we strugle especially the chapfikas.Danayi chapfika for instance was center of atraction not only for her attitude but also her fancy dressing.She owned this place but at the same time failing at school as she failed architecture twice and still got the benefits,her brother was throwing parties every week and at the same time not going to school,what do you think does to other people?

justice had been done.thank you.&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('96394','soldier'); return false;"&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('96394','soldier','Finaly justice had been done...This kids were here to spoil zimbabwean money while we strugle especially the chapfikas.Danayi chapfika for instance was center of atraction not only for her attitude but also her fancy dressing.She owned this place but at the same time failing at school as she failed architecture twice and still got the benefits,her brother was throwing parties every week and at the same time not going to school,what do you think does to other people?\r\n\r\njustice had been done.thank you.'); return false;"&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finaly justice had been done&#8230;This kids were here to spoil zimbabwean money while we strugle especially the chapfikas.Danayi chapfika for instance was center of atraction not only for her attitude but also her fancy dressing.She owned this place but at the same time failing at school as she failed architecture twice and still got the benefits,her brother was throwing parties every week and at the same time not going to school,what do you think does to other people?</p>
<p>justice had been done.thank you.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('96394','soldier'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('96394','soldier','Finaly justice had been done...This kids were here to spoil zimbabwean money while we strugle especially the chapfikas.Danayi chapfika for instance was center of atraction not only for her attitude but also her fancy dressing.She owned this place but at the same time failing at school as she failed architecture twice and still got the benefits,her brother was throwing parties every week and at the same time not going to school,what do you think does to other people?\r\n\r\njustice had been done.thank you.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 13:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i personally do not believe that these children should be punsihed for their parents crimes. i think its a bit of a catch 22. Because the other children in zimbabwe do no have the same opportunities.
i actually am friends with some of these children and believe me they do no have influence on thier parents. Being African one should know this. I believe their parents have more influence on them than anything else.
i do not think any zimbwean should have to travel overseas for a better life and better education. They should have all this in thier own country.  We are now the new generation who are meant to be taking over the country but how do we do so. We were born free and we would like a free country but our parents fought the war have that old mentality. We did not go through what they went through.
We need to find a way to make zimbabwe beatiful again. Right it seems to be everyman for himself " let me see how i can exploit the situation and what can i get out of this"&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('91807','Anonymous'); return false;"&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('91807','Anonymous','i personally do not believe that these children should be punsihed for their parents crimes. i think its a bit of a catch 22. Because the other children in zimbabwe do no have the same opportunities.\r\ni actually am friends with some of these children and believe me they do no have influence on thier parents. Being African one should know this. I believe their parents have more influence on them than anything else.\r\ni do not think any zimbwean should have to travel overseas for a better life and better education. They should have all this in thier own country.  We are now the new generation who are meant to be taking over the country but how do we do so. We were born free and we would like a free country but our parents fought the war have that old mentality. We did not go through what they went through.\r\nWe need to find a way to make zimbabwe beatiful again. Right it seems to be everyman for himself \&#34; let me see how i can exploit the situation and what can i get out of this\&#34;'); return false;"&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i personally do not believe that these children should be punsihed for their parents crimes. i think its a bit of a catch 22. Because the other children in zimbabwe do no have the same opportunities.<br />
i actually am friends with some of these children and believe me they do no have influence on thier parents. Being African one should know this. I believe their parents have more influence on them than anything else.<br />
i do not think any zimbwean should have to travel overseas for a better life and better education. They should have all this in thier own country.  We are now the new generation who are meant to be taking over the country but how do we do so. We were born free and we would like a free country but our parents fought the war have that old mentality. We did not go through what they went through.<br />
We need to find a way to make zimbabwe beatiful again. Right it seems to be everyman for himself &#8221; let me see how i can exploit the situation and what can i get out of this&#8221;
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('91807','Anonymous'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('91807','Anonymous','i personally do not believe that these children should be punsihed for their parents crimes. i think its a bit of a catch 22. Because the other children in zimbabwe do no have the same opportunities.\r\ni actually am friends with some of these children and believe me they do no have influence on thier parents. Being African one should know this. I believe their parents have more influence on them than anything else.\r\ni do not think any zimbwean should have to travel overseas for a better life and better education. They should have all this in thier own country.  We are now the new generation who are meant to be taking over the country but how do we do so. We were born free and we would like a free country but our parents fought the war have that old mentality. We did not go through what they went through.\r\nWe need to find a way to make zimbabwe beatiful again. Right it seems to be everyman for himself \&quot; let me see how i can exploit the situation and what can i get out of this\&quot;'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: peter</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 14:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A wonderful, thought provoking piece. Living in a situation like Zimbabwe must require exceptional moral and ethical fortitude, and I think that that demand on peoples consciences can easily be forgotten when seen from the outside. 

The story of these students and their possible guilt reminds me of Ratko Mladic, the leader of the Bosnian Serbs and his daughter. While he was away waging war in Bosnia, ruthlessly laying siege to Sarajevo among other crimes, she was a promising student of medicine at Belgrade University. In her final year of study she increasingly became depressed and this ended in her taking her own life. Her reasons for suicide aren't really clear, but her depression seems to date from a trip she took to Russia. One possible explanation of this dramatic mood change is that in Russia she was exposed to the reality of her fathers part in the war in Bosnia (a reality which was seldom seen in the Belgrade media). If this is true, it must have been a devasting blow to find out the father she was so close to and adored was in fact guilty of the worse war crimes in Europe since the Second World War. 

I wonder if these students have found out any uncomfortable truths about their parents during their time in Australia and if so, do they care? Or are they just too attached to the propaganda of their parents?

Best wishes to you all down there, I really do hope that something changes for the better soon.&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('88004','peter'); return false;"&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('88004','peter','A wonderful, thought provoking piece. Living in a situation like Zimbabwe must require exceptional moral and ethical fortitude, and I think that that demand on peoples consciences can easily be forgotten when seen from the outside. \r\n\r\nThe story of these students and their possible guilt reminds me of Ratko Mladic, the leader of the Bosnian Serbs and his daughter. While he was away waging war in Bosnia, ruthlessly laying siege to Sarajevo among other crimes, she was a promising student of medicine at Belgrade University. In her final year of study she increasingly became depressed and this ended in her taking her own life. Her reasons for suicide aren\'t really clear, but her depression seems to date from a trip she took to Russia. One possible explanation of this dramatic mood change is that in Russia she was exposed to the reality of her fathers part in the war in Bosnia (a reality which was seldom seen in the Belgrade media). If this is true, it must have been a devasting blow to find out the father she was so close to and adored was in fact guilty of the worse war crimes in Europe since the Second World War. \r\n\r\nI wonder if these students have found out any uncomfortable truths about their parents during their time in Australia and if so, do they care? Or are they just too attached to the propaganda of their parents?\r\n\r\nBest wishes to you all down there, I really do hope that something changes for the better soon.'); return false;"&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A wonderful, thought provoking piece. Living in a situation like Zimbabwe must require exceptional moral and ethical fortitude, and I think that that demand on peoples consciences can easily be forgotten when seen from the outside. </p>
<p>The story of these students and their possible guilt reminds me of Ratko Mladic, the leader of the Bosnian Serbs and his daughter. While he was away waging war in Bosnia, ruthlessly laying siege to Sarajevo among other crimes, she was a promising student of medicine at Belgrade University. In her final year of study she increasingly became depressed and this ended in her taking her own life. Her reasons for suicide aren&#8217;t really clear, but her depression seems to date from a trip she took to Russia. One possible explanation of this dramatic mood change is that in Russia she was exposed to the reality of her fathers part in the war in Bosnia (a reality which was seldom seen in the Belgrade media). If this is true, it must have been a devasting blow to find out the father she was so close to and adored was in fact guilty of the worse war crimes in Europe since the Second World War. </p>
<p>I wonder if these students have found out any uncomfortable truths about their parents during their time in Australia and if so, do they care? Or are they just too attached to the propaganda of their parents?</p>
<p>Best wishes to you all down there, I really do hope that something changes for the better soon.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('88004','peter'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('88004','peter','A wonderful, thought provoking piece. Living in a situation like Zimbabwe must require exceptional moral and ethical fortitude, and I think that that demand on peoples consciences can easily be forgotten when seen from the outside. \r\n\r\nThe story of these students and their possible guilt reminds me of Ratko Mladic, the leader of the Bosnian Serbs and his daughter. While he was away waging war in Bosnia, ruthlessly laying siege to Sarajevo among other crimes, she was a promising student of medicine at Belgrade University. In her final year of study she increasingly became depressed and this ended in her taking her own life. Her reasons for suicide aren\'t really clear, but her depression seems to date from a trip she took to Russia. One possible explanation of this dramatic mood change is that in Russia she was exposed to the reality of her fathers part in the war in Bosnia (a reality which was seldom seen in the Belgrade media). If this is true, it must have been a devasting blow to find out the father she was so close to and adored was in fact guilty of the worse war crimes in Europe since the Second World War. \r\n\r\nI wonder if these students have found out any uncomfortable truths about their parents during their time in Australia and if so, do they care? Or are they just too attached to the propaganda of their parents?\r\n\r\nBest wishes to you all down there, I really do hope that something changes for the better soon.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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