Comments on: Zanu PF politburo meets on keeping election results a secret (humourous) http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/842 This is Zimbabwe is Sokwanele's pro-democracy activist blog. It provides grassroots news and views from Zimbabwe. Wed, 08 Feb 2012 04:20:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Judy in the UK http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/842/comment-page-1#comment-182201 Judy in the UK Wed, 09 Apr 2008 10:15:29 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/842#comment-182201 Bravo to all at Sokwanele for this website and blog.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('182201','Judy in the UK'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('182201','Judy in the UK','Bravo to all at Sokwanele for this website and blog.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> Bravo to all at Sokwanele for this website and blog.
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]]> By: scotchcart http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/842/comment-page-1#comment-182121 scotchcart Wed, 09 Apr 2008 09:16:13 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/842#comment-182121 The HC is meeting again now, unless they have finished. I understand that MRT is working hard talking to people. Let's put our backs to the wheel and help, but like a car stuck in mud, gently on the pedal will get us out faster. Understanding how each of us helps a little to the collective effort is what is important now. Everyone doing one millimetre in a controlled and thoughtful way. I suggested to an American he calls his congressman and senator to ask what the USA is doing and to call back after 24 hours, and call back, and call back, and to drill down to the question in your last sentence. What is the interest of the USA? He seems to be willing to do it. What do other people think? Can we encourage our colleagues all over the world to ask questions, lots of questions, of politicians, NGO's, embassies, and newspapers. A lot of the report is anything other than investigative!! For that matter, does anyone know what has happened to George Chiweshe, chairman of ZEC. Was he at the High Court today? Is he safe?<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('182121','scotchcart'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('182121','scotchcart','The HC is meeting again now, unless they have finished. I understand that MRT is working hard talking to people. Let\'s put our backs to the wheel and help, but like a car stuck in mud, gently on the pedal will get us out faster. Understanding how each of us helps a little to the collective effort is what is important now. Everyone doing one millimetre in a controlled and thoughtful way.\r\n\r\nI suggested to an American he calls his congressman and senator to ask what the USA is doing and to call back after 24 hours, and call back, and call back, and to drill down to the question in your last sentence. What is the interest of the USA? He seems to be willing to do it.\r\n\r\nWhat do other people think? Can we encourage our colleagues all over the world to ask questions, lots of questions, of politicians, NGO\'s, embassies, and newspapers. A lot of the report is anything other than investigative!!\r\n\r\nFor that matter, does anyone know what has happened to George Chiweshe, chairman of ZEC. Was he at the High Court today? Is he safe?'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> The HC is meeting again now, unless they have finished. I understand that MRT is working hard talking to people. Let’s put our backs to the wheel and help, but like a car stuck in mud, gently on the pedal will get us out faster. Understanding how each of us helps a little to the collective effort is what is important now. Everyone doing one millimetre in a controlled and thoughtful way.

I suggested to an American he calls his congressman and senator to ask what the USA is doing and to call back after 24 hours, and call back, and call back, and to drill down to the question in your last sentence. What is the interest of the USA? He seems to be willing to do it.

What do other people think? Can we encourage our colleagues all over the world to ask questions, lots of questions, of politicians, NGO’s, embassies, and newspapers. A lot of the report is anything other than investigative!!

For that matter, does anyone know what has happened to George Chiweshe, chairman of ZEC. Was he at the High Court today? Is he safe?

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]]> By: Madresicilia http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/842/comment-page-1#comment-182059 Madresicilia Wed, 09 Apr 2008 08:33:35 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/842#comment-182059 Just how many people would be involved in this 'exit strategy'? It is naive to think of the number as being workable in any way, it would be like trying to provide an exit visa for every killer in the 1994 Rwandan massacres. 'They' are not interested in appeasement, they are committed to maintaining the power base in its entirety and their 'old man' is the best, the wisest, the strongest, the most experienced figurehead they could hope to hold.There are no quick fixes to be found here and running to the international community complaining of injustice will not bring about the shift either; the decision to leave Zimbabwe to its own leaders was made years ago and there is nothing today that will change it. Except the rights to oil, gold and diamonds in large quantities, in which case..<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('182059','Madresicilia'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('182059','Madresicilia','Just how many people would be involved in this \'exit strategy\'? It is naive to think of the number as being workable in any way, it would be like trying to provide an exit visa for every killer in the 1994 Rwandan massacres. \'They\' are not interested in appeasement, they are committed to maintaining the power base in its entirety and their \'old man\' is the best, the wisest, the strongest, the most experienced figurehead they could hope to hold.There are no quick fixes to be found here and running to the international community complaining of injustice will not bring about the shift either; the decision to leave Zimbabwe to its own leaders was made years ago and there is nothing today that will change it. Except the rights to oil, gold and diamonds in large quantities, in which case..'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> Just how many people would be involved in this ‘exit strategy’? It is naive to think of the number as being workable in any way, it would be like trying to provide an exit visa for every killer in the 1994 Rwandan massacres. ‘They’ are not interested in appeasement, they are committed to maintaining the power base in its entirety and their ‘old man’ is the best, the wisest, the strongest, the most experienced figurehead they could hope to hold.There are no quick fixes to be found here and running to the international community complaining of injustice will not bring about the shift either; the decision to leave Zimbabwe to its own leaders was made years ago and there is nothing today that will change it. Except the rights to oil, gold and diamonds in large quantities, in which case..
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]]> By: True Grit http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/842/comment-page-1#comment-181403 True Grit Tue, 08 Apr 2008 22:38:15 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/842#comment-181403 This 'humourous' post hides a very serious and pertinent message. That is that using violence when there is no other alternative is very different from Mugabe using it to overcome anyone who challenges his authority. The main 'beneficiaries' of Mugabe's wrath have been his own people all along. The white community was just used as a means of gaining votes and was not his perceived main threat. It is about time that Mbeki and other African leaders acknowledge this.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('181403','True Grit'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('181403','True Grit','This \'humourous\' post hides a very serious and pertinent message. That is that using violence when there is no other alternative is very different from Mugabe using it to overcome anyone who challenges his authority. The main \'beneficiaries\' of Mugabe\'s wrath have been his own people all along. The white community was just used as a means of gaining votes and was not his perceived main threat. It is about time that Mbeki and other African leaders acknowledge this.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> This ‘humourous’ post hides a very serious and pertinent message. That is that using violence when there is no other alternative is very different from Mugabe using it to overcome anyone who challenges his authority. The main ‘beneficiaries’ of Mugabe’s wrath have been his own people all along. The white community was just used as a means of gaining votes and was not his perceived main threat. It is about time that Mbeki and other African leaders acknowledge this.
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]]> By: Nyagura http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/842/comment-page-1#comment-180925 Nyagura Tue, 08 Apr 2008 17:21:49 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/842#comment-180925 We can always print some other bearer's cheques and give those men some hefty exit packages? Thats the Zim way of solving issues?<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('180925','Nyagura'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('180925','Nyagura','We can always print some other bearer\'s cheques and give those men some hefty exit packages? Thats the Zim way of solving issues?'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> We can always print some other bearer’s cheques and give those men some hefty exit packages? Thats the Zim way of solving issues?
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]]> By: dombodema http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/842/comment-page-1#comment-180883 dombodema Tue, 08 Apr 2008 17:00:45 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/842#comment-180883 Once you have been power that long you begin to take the people for granted and your level of arongance increases with every day. The man is 84 years old and being taken advantage of. He has been personally been assured of a future inside the country, but his side kicks are not assured any immunity hence they are playing on his ego to blindly lead them whilst he self destructs.The Mafia element is the one in control and we are best advised to negotiate an exit for these men and women who have never held a decent job in their lives. A guaranteed pension could do wonders provided all siphoned funds are accounted for course. With electronic movement of money & info we will fund the slush funds.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('180883','dombodema'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('180883','dombodema','Once you have been power that long you begin to take the people for granted and your level of arongance increases with every day. The man is 84 years old and being taken advantage of. He has been personally been assured of a future inside the country, but his side kicks are not assured any immunity hence they are playing on his ego to blindly lead them whilst he self destructs.The Mafia element is the one in control and we are best advised to negotiate an exit for these men and women who have never held a decent job in their lives. A guaranteed pension could do wonders provided all siphoned funds are accounted for course. With electronic movement of money & info we will fund the slush funds.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> Once you have been power that long you begin to take the people for granted and your level of arongance increases with every day. The man is 84 years old and being taken advantage of. He has been personally been assured of a future inside the country, but his side kicks are not assured any immunity hence they are playing on his ego to blindly lead them whilst he self destructs.The Mafia element is the one in control and we are best advised to negotiate an exit for these men and women who have never held a decent job in their lives. A guaranteed pension could do wonders provided all siphoned funds are accounted for course. With electronic movement of money & info we will fund the slush funds.
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]]> By: Nyagura http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/842/comment-page-1#comment-180834 Nyagura Tue, 08 Apr 2008 16:40:09 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/842#comment-180834 So this Mugabe guy thinks he can go against the whole nation just to defend his criminal acts he has been doing with his merciless cronies. Is that man human. Is it true that he is a member of the satanist movement?<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('180834','Nyagura'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('180834','Nyagura','So this Mugabe guy thinks he can go against the whole nation just to defend his criminal acts he has been doing with his merciless cronies. Is that man human. Is it true that he is a member of the satanist movement?'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> So this Mugabe guy thinks he can go against the whole nation just to defend his criminal acts he has been doing with his merciless cronies. Is that man human. Is it true that he is a member of the satanist movement?
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]]> By: dombodema http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/842/comment-page-1#comment-180831 dombodema Tue, 08 Apr 2008 16:39:05 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/842#comment-180831 It would be funny but it sounds so true if you live in Zimbabwe. We are in trouble and the International community has come and gone as observers. The elections were declared free and fair before their conclusion by the useless monitors after they had a lovely holiday in Zimbabwe.The Power vacuum is palpable and the ZANUPF politburo has moved to fill the void. Former Ministers and Deputy Ministers are clinging to obsolete titles (sources of illegitimate power) and prancing about because there is no more control.Cry the beloved country, you were once the rose of the world.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('180831','dombodema'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('180831','dombodema','It would be funny but it sounds so true if you live in Zimbabwe. We are in trouble and the International community has come and gone as observers. The elections were declared free and fair before their conclusion by the useless monitors after they had a lovely holiday in Zimbabwe.The Power vacuum is palpable and the ZANUPF politburo has moved to fill the void. Former Ministers and Deputy Ministers are clinging to obsolete titles (sources of illegitimate power) and prancing about because there is no more control.Cry the beloved country, you were once the rose of the world.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> It would be funny but it sounds so true if you live in Zimbabwe. We are in trouble and the International community has come and gone as observers. The elections were declared free and fair before their conclusion by the useless monitors after they had a lovely holiday in Zimbabwe.The Power vacuum is palpable and the ZANUPF politburo has moved to fill the void. Former Ministers and Deputy Ministers are clinging to obsolete titles (sources of illegitimate power) and prancing about because there is no more control.Cry the beloved country, you were once the rose of the world.
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]]> By: Jo http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/842/comment-page-1#comment-180431 Jo Tue, 08 Apr 2008 13:31:23 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/842#comment-180431 Brilliant!<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('180431','Jo'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('180431','Jo','Brilliant!'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> Brilliant!
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