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		<title>By: 419</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's a 419 scam. Ignore it. They hook onto whatever is in the news and like vultures claim to know the victims etc. Disgusting.

Visit here: http://www.419eater.com/&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('203501','419'); return false;"&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('203501','419','It\'s a 419 scam. Ignore it. They hook onto whatever is in the news and like vultures claim to know the victims etc. Disgusting.\r\n\r\nVisit here: http:\/\/www.419eater.com\/'); return false;"&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a 419 scam. Ignore it. They hook onto whatever is in the news and like vultures claim to know the victims etc. Disgusting.</p>
<p>Visit here: <a href="http://www.419eater.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.419eater.com/</a>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have got an email from a Rose moyo in Gwanda zimbabwe trying to transfer a huge amount of money to me and I know it is pretty sure a scam and do not know how they have gotten my email or information I have donated to africa through many agencies, it is talking about her husband being executed by the presidents aides and begging me to let money transfer has anyone heard anything about this before?&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('203499','Erin'); return false;"&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('203499','Erin','I have got an email from a Rose moyo in Gwanda zimbabwe trying to transfer a huge amount of money to me and I know it is pretty sure a scam and do not know how they have gotten my email or information I have donated to africa through many agencies, it is talking about her husband being executed by the presidents aides and begging me to let money transfer has anyone heard anything about this before?'); return false;"&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have got an email from a Rose moyo in Gwanda zimbabwe trying to transfer a huge amount of money to me and I know it is pretty sure a scam and do not know how they have gotten my email or information I have donated to africa through many agencies, it is talking about her husband being executed by the presidents aides and begging me to let money transfer has anyone heard anything about this before?
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		<title>By: zongweni</title>
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		<dc:creator>zongweni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 18:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are the names of the Mugabe criminals,"War Veterans" etc who are currently carrying out their evil masters orders. These names must be remembered when the traitor mugabe is deposed.

Harare Metropolitan Province 
AVM Karakadzai + CIO

Bulawayo Province Col. C. Sibanda
Bulawayo central Maj. J. Ndhlovu
Maj. J. Ncube

Manicaland and Mutare South Brig. Tarumbwa
Buhera Central Col. M. Mzilikazi (MID)
Buhera North Maj. L. M. Svosve
Buhera South Maj. D. Muchena
Buhera West Lt. Col. Kamonge
Major Nhachi
Chimanimani East Lt. Col. Murecherwa
Chimanimani West Maj. Mabvuu
Headlands Col. Mutsvunguma
Makoni North Maj. V. Chisuko
Makoni South Wing Commander Mandeya
Mutare Central Lt. Col. Tsodzai
Lt. Col. Sedze
Mandi Chimene
Mutare West Lt. Col. B. Kashiri
Mutare North Lt. Col. Chizengwe
Lt. Col. Mazaiwana

Mashonaland Central Brig. Gen. Shungu
Bindura South Col. Chipwere
Bindura North Lt. Col. Parwada
Muzarabani North Lt. Col. Kazaza
Muzarabani South Maj. H. Maziri
Rushinga Col. F. Mhonda
Lt. Col. Betheuni
Shamva North Lt. Col. Dzuda
Shamva South Makumire

Midlands AVM Muchena
Brig. Gen. S. B. Moyo
Lt Colonel Kuhuni
Chirumhanzu South Maj T. Tsvangirai
Mberengwa east Col. B. Mavire
Mberengwa West Maj T. Marufu

Matebeleland South AVM Abu Basutu
Beit Bridge East Group Cpt. Mayera
Rtd. Maj. Mbedzi
Lt. Col. B. Moyo
Gwanda South Maj J. D. Moyo
Gwanda Central Maj. B. Tshuma
Matopo North Lt. Col. Maphosa

Matebeleland North Brig. Gen. Khumalo
Binga North Maj E. S. Matonga
Lupane East Lt Col. Mkwananzi
Lupane West Lt Col. Mabhena
Tsholotsho Lt. Col. Mlalazi
Hwange Central Lt. Col P. Ndhlovu

Masvingo Province Maj. Gen. E. A. Rugeje
Rtd. Maj. Gen. Gibson Mashingaidze
Rtd. Brig. General Rangwani

Bikita West Maj. B. R. Murwira
Chiredzi Central Col G. Mashava
Chiredzi West Maj. E. Gono
Gutu South Maj. Chimedza (Medical Doctor)
AVM Muchena
Masvingo Lt. Col. Takavingofa
Mwenezi West Lt. Col. Muchono
Mwenezi East Lt. Col. Mpabanga
Zaka East Maj. R. Kwenda

Mash West Province Brig. Gen. Sigauke
Chinhoyi Col Gwekwerere
Chegutu East Lt. Colonel W. Tutisa
Hurungwe East Lt. Col. B. Mabambe
Mhondoro Mubaira Col. C. T. Gurira
Zvimba North Cpt. T. Majongwe

Mashonaland East Brig. Gen. D. Nyikayaramba
Rtd. Brig Gen Rungani
Chikomba Central Lt. Col. Marara
Gromonzi North Lt Col. Mudzimba
Maj F. Mbewe
Marondera Central Maj. Gen. Chedondo (COSG)
Lt. Col B. Kashiri
Marondera West Squadron Leader U. Chitauro
Murehwa South Maj. Gurure
Murehwa North Lt. Col. Mukurazhizha
Lt. Col. Chinete

In total, 200 serving senior officers of the armed forces will be participating in the exercise. They will be commanding other war veterans and Zanu pf thugs.

The teams will be deployed on 8th April 2008 to campaign for RG Mugabe in the run off under the guise of war veterans. With the exception of two, all the deployed officers are senior serving officers of the armed services. It is understood that Lt. Gen. PV Sibanda will command the operation with the assistance of Maj. Gen. Nick Dube. General Chiwenga will be the overall commander of the operation. He is being assisted by Maj. Gen Last Mugova and Col. S. Mudambo&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('182694','zongweni'); return false;"&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('182694','zongweni','These are the names of the Mugabe criminals,\&#34;War Veterans\&#34; etc who are currently carrying out their evil masters orders. These names must be remembered when the traitor mugabe is deposed.\r\n\r\nHarare Metropolitan Province \r\nAVM Karakadzai + CIO\r\n\r\nBulawayo Province Col. C. Sibanda\r\nBulawayo central Maj. J. Ndhlovu\r\nMaj. J. Ncube\r\n\r\nManicaland and Mutare South Brig. Tarumbwa\r\nBuhera Central Col. M. Mzilikazi (MID)\r\nBuhera North Maj. L. M. Svosve\r\nBuhera South Maj. D. Muchena\r\nBuhera West Lt. Col. Kamonge\r\nMajor Nhachi\r\nChimanimani East Lt. Col. Murecherwa\r\nChimanimani West Maj. Mabvuu\r\nHeadlands Col. Mutsvunguma\r\nMakoni North Maj. V. Chisuko\r\nMakoni South Wing Commander Mandeya\r\nMutare Central Lt. Col. Tsodzai\r\nLt. Col. Sedze\r\nMandi Chimene\r\nMutare West Lt. Col. B. Kashiri\r\nMutare North Lt. Col. Chizengwe\r\nLt. Col. Mazaiwana\r\n\r\nMashonaland Central Brig. Gen. Shungu\r\nBindura South Col. Chipwere\r\nBindura North Lt. Col. Parwada\r\nMuzarabani North Lt. Col. Kazaza\r\nMuzarabani South Maj. H. Maziri\r\nRushinga Col. F. Mhonda\r\nLt. Col. Betheuni\r\nShamva North Lt. Col. Dzuda\r\nShamva South Makumire\r\n\r\nMidlands AVM Muchena\r\nBrig. Gen. S. B. Moyo\r\nLt Colonel Kuhuni\r\nChirumhanzu South Maj T. Tsvangirai\r\nMberengwa east Col. B. Mavire\r\nMberengwa West Maj T. Marufu\r\n\r\nMatebeleland South AVM Abu Basutu\r\nBeit Bridge East Group Cpt. Mayera\r\nRtd. Maj. Mbedzi\r\nLt. Col. B. Moyo\r\nGwanda South Maj J. D. Moyo\r\nGwanda Central Maj. B. Tshuma\r\nMatopo North Lt. Col. Maphosa\r\n\r\nMatebeleland North Brig. Gen. Khumalo\r\nBinga North Maj E. S. Matonga\r\nLupane East Lt Col. Mkwananzi\r\nLupane West Lt Col. Mabhena\r\nTsholotsho Lt. Col. Mlalazi\r\nHwange Central Lt. Col P. Ndhlovu\r\n\r\nMasvingo Province Maj. Gen. E. A. Rugeje\r\nRtd. Maj. Gen. Gibson Mashingaidze\r\nRtd. Brig. General Rangwani\r\n\r\nBikita West Maj. B. R. Murwira\r\nChiredzi Central Col G. Mashava\r\nChiredzi West Maj. E. Gono\r\nGutu South Maj. Chimedza (Medical Doctor)\r\nAVM Muchena\r\nMasvingo Lt. Col. Takavingofa\r\nMwenezi West Lt. Col. Muchono\r\nMwenezi East Lt. Col. Mpabanga\r\nZaka East Maj. R. Kwenda\r\n\r\nMash West Province Brig. Gen. Sigauke\r\nChinhoyi Col Gwekwerere\r\nChegutu East Lt. Colonel W. Tutisa\r\nHurungwe East Lt. Col. B. Mabambe\r\nMhondoro Mubaira Col. C. T. Gurira\r\nZvimba North Cpt. T. Majongwe\r\n\r\nMashonaland East Brig. Gen. D. Nyikayaramba\r\nRtd. Brig Gen Rungani\r\nChikomba Central Lt. Col. Marara\r\nGromonzi North Lt Col. Mudzimba\r\nMaj F. Mbewe\r\nMarondera Central Maj. Gen. Chedondo (COSG)\r\nLt. Col B. Kashiri\r\nMarondera West Squadron Leader U. Chitauro\r\nMurehwa South Maj. Gurure\r\nMurehwa North Lt. Col. Mukurazhizha\r\nLt. Col. Chinete\r\n\r\nIn total, 200 serving senior officers of the armed forces will be participating in the exercise. They will be commanding other war veterans and Zanu pf thugs.\r\n\r\nThe teams will be deployed on 8th April 2008 to campaign for RG Mugabe in the run off under the guise of war veterans. With the exception of two, all the deployed officers are senior serving officers of the armed services. It is understood that Lt. Gen. PV Sibanda will command the operation with the assistance of Maj. Gen. Nick Dube. General Chiwenga will be the overall commander of the operation. He is being assisted by Maj. Gen Last Mugova and Col. S. Mudambo'); return false;"&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are the names of the Mugabe criminals,&#8221;War Veterans&#8221; etc who are currently carrying out their evil masters orders. These names must be remembered when the traitor mugabe is deposed.</p>
<p>Harare Metropolitan Province<br />
AVM Karakadzai + CIO</p>
<p>Bulawayo Province Col. C. Sibanda<br />
Bulawayo central Maj. J. Ndhlovu<br />
Maj. J. Ncube</p>
<p>Manicaland and Mutare South Brig. Tarumbwa<br />
Buhera Central Col. M. Mzilikazi (MID)<br />
Buhera North Maj. L. M. Svosve<br />
Buhera South Maj. D. Muchena<br />
Buhera West Lt. Col. Kamonge<br />
Major Nhachi<br />
Chimanimani East Lt. Col. Murecherwa<br />
Chimanimani West Maj. Mabvuu<br />
Headlands Col. Mutsvunguma<br />
Makoni North Maj. V. Chisuko<br />
Makoni South Wing Commander Mandeya<br />
Mutare Central Lt. Col. Tsodzai<br />
Lt. Col. Sedze<br />
Mandi Chimene<br />
Mutare West Lt. Col. B. Kashiri<br />
Mutare North Lt. Col. Chizengwe<br />
Lt. Col. Mazaiwana</p>
<p>Mashonaland Central Brig. Gen. Shungu<br />
Bindura South Col. Chipwere<br />
Bindura North Lt. Col. Parwada<br />
Muzarabani North Lt. Col. Kazaza<br />
Muzarabani South Maj. H. Maziri<br />
Rushinga Col. F. Mhonda<br />
Lt. Col. Betheuni<br />
Shamva North Lt. Col. Dzuda<br />
Shamva South Makumire</p>
<p>Midlands AVM Muchena<br />
Brig. Gen. S. B. Moyo<br />
Lt Colonel Kuhuni<br />
Chirumhanzu South Maj T. Tsvangirai<br />
Mberengwa east Col. B. Mavire<br />
Mberengwa West Maj T. Marufu</p>
<p>Matebeleland South AVM Abu Basutu<br />
Beit Bridge East Group Cpt. Mayera<br />
Rtd. Maj. Mbedzi<br />
Lt. Col. B. Moyo<br />
Gwanda South Maj J. D. Moyo<br />
Gwanda Central Maj. B. Tshuma<br />
Matopo North Lt. Col. Maphosa</p>
<p>Matebeleland North Brig. Gen. Khumalo<br />
Binga North Maj E. S. Matonga<br />
Lupane East Lt Col. Mkwananzi<br />
Lupane West Lt Col. Mabhena<br />
Tsholotsho Lt. Col. Mlalazi<br />
Hwange Central Lt. Col P. Ndhlovu</p>
<p>Masvingo Province Maj. Gen. E. A. Rugeje<br />
Rtd. Maj. Gen. Gibson Mashingaidze<br />
Rtd. Brig. General Rangwani</p>
<p>Bikita West Maj. B. R. Murwira<br />
Chiredzi Central Col G. Mashava<br />
Chiredzi West Maj. E. Gono<br />
Gutu South Maj. Chimedza (Medical Doctor)<br />
AVM Muchena<br />
Masvingo Lt. Col. Takavingofa<br />
Mwenezi West Lt. Col. Muchono<br />
Mwenezi East Lt. Col. Mpabanga<br />
Zaka East Maj. R. Kwenda</p>
<p>Mash West Province Brig. Gen. Sigauke<br />
Chinhoyi Col Gwekwerere<br />
Chegutu East Lt. Colonel W. Tutisa<br />
Hurungwe East Lt. Col. B. Mabambe<br />
Mhondoro Mubaira Col. C. T. Gurira<br />
Zvimba North Cpt. T. Majongwe</p>
<p>Mashonaland East Brig. Gen. D. Nyikayaramba<br />
Rtd. Brig Gen Rungani<br />
Chikomba Central Lt. Col. Marara<br />
Gromonzi North Lt Col. Mudzimba<br />
Maj F. Mbewe<br />
Marondera Central Maj. Gen. Chedondo (COSG)<br />
Lt. Col B. Kashiri<br />
Marondera West Squadron Leader U. Chitauro<br />
Murehwa South Maj. Gurure<br />
Murehwa North Lt. Col. Mukurazhizha<br />
Lt. Col. Chinete</p>
<p>In total, 200 serving senior officers of the armed forces will be participating in the exercise. They will be commanding other war veterans and Zanu pf thugs.</p>
<p>The teams will be deployed on 8th April 2008 to campaign for RG Mugabe in the run off under the guise of war veterans. With the exception of two, all the deployed officers are senior serving officers of the armed services. It is understood that Lt. Gen. PV Sibanda will command the operation with the assistance of Maj. Gen. Nick Dube. General Chiwenga will be the overall commander of the operation. He is being assisted by Maj. Gen Last Mugova and Col. S. Mudambo
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('182694','zongweni'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('182694','zongweni','These are the names of the Mugabe criminals,\&quot;War Veterans\&quot; etc who are currently carrying out their evil masters orders. These names must be remembered when the traitor mugabe is deposed.\r\n\r\nHarare Metropolitan Province \r\nAVM Karakadzai + CIO\r\n\r\nBulawayo Province Col. C. Sibanda\r\nBulawayo central Maj. J. Ndhlovu\r\nMaj. J. Ncube\r\n\r\nManicaland and Mutare South Brig. Tarumbwa\r\nBuhera Central Col. M. Mzilikazi (MID)\r\nBuhera North Maj. L. M. Svosve\r\nBuhera South Maj. D. Muchena\r\nBuhera West Lt. Col. Kamonge\r\nMajor Nhachi\r\nChimanimani East Lt. Col. Murecherwa\r\nChimanimani West Maj. Mabvuu\r\nHeadlands Col. Mutsvunguma\r\nMakoni North Maj. V. Chisuko\r\nMakoni South Wing Commander Mandeya\r\nMutare Central Lt. Col. Tsodzai\r\nLt. Col. Sedze\r\nMandi Chimene\r\nMutare West Lt. Col. B. Kashiri\r\nMutare North Lt. Col. Chizengwe\r\nLt. Col. Mazaiwana\r\n\r\nMashonaland Central Brig. Gen. Shungu\r\nBindura South Col. Chipwere\r\nBindura North Lt. Col. Parwada\r\nMuzarabani North Lt. Col. Kazaza\r\nMuzarabani South Maj. H. Maziri\r\nRushinga Col. F. Mhonda\r\nLt. Col. Betheuni\r\nShamva North Lt. Col. Dzuda\r\nShamva South Makumire\r\n\r\nMidlands AVM Muchena\r\nBrig. Gen. S. B. Moyo\r\nLt Colonel Kuhuni\r\nChirumhanzu South Maj T. Tsvangirai\r\nMberengwa east Col. B. Mavire\r\nMberengwa West Maj T. Marufu\r\n\r\nMatebeleland South AVM Abu Basutu\r\nBeit Bridge East Group Cpt. Mayera\r\nRtd. Maj. Mbedzi\r\nLt. Col. B. Moyo\r\nGwanda South Maj J. D. Moyo\r\nGwanda Central Maj. B. Tshuma\r\nMatopo North Lt. Col. Maphosa\r\n\r\nMatebeleland North Brig. Gen. Khumalo\r\nBinga North Maj E. S. Matonga\r\nLupane East Lt Col. Mkwananzi\r\nLupane West Lt Col. Mabhena\r\nTsholotsho Lt. Col. Mlalazi\r\nHwange Central Lt. Col P. Ndhlovu\r\n\r\nMasvingo Province Maj. Gen. E. A. Rugeje\r\nRtd. Maj. Gen. Gibson Mashingaidze\r\nRtd. Brig. General Rangwani\r\n\r\nBikita West Maj. B. R. Murwira\r\nChiredzi Central Col G. Mashava\r\nChiredzi West Maj. E. Gono\r\nGutu South Maj. Chimedza (Medical Doctor)\r\nAVM Muchena\r\nMasvingo Lt. Col. Takavingofa\r\nMwenezi West Lt. Col. Muchono\r\nMwenezi East Lt. Col. Mpabanga\r\nZaka East Maj. R. Kwenda\r\n\r\nMash West Province Brig. Gen. Sigauke\r\nChinhoyi Col Gwekwerere\r\nChegutu East Lt. Colonel W. Tutisa\r\nHurungwe East Lt. Col. B. Mabambe\r\nMhondoro Mubaira Col. C. T. Gurira\r\nZvimba North Cpt. T. Majongwe\r\n\r\nMashonaland East Brig. Gen. D. Nyikayaramba\r\nRtd. Brig Gen Rungani\r\nChikomba Central Lt. Col. Marara\r\nGromonzi North Lt Col. Mudzimba\r\nMaj F. Mbewe\r\nMarondera Central Maj. Gen. Chedondo (COSG)\r\nLt. Col B. Kashiri\r\nMarondera West Squadron Leader U. Chitauro\r\nMurehwa South Maj. Gurure\r\nMurehwa North Lt. Col. Mukurazhizha\r\nLt. Col. Chinete\r\n\r\nIn total, 200 serving senior officers of the armed forces will be participating in the exercise. They will be commanding other war veterans and Zanu pf thugs.\r\n\r\nThe teams will be deployed on 8th April 2008 to campaign for RG Mugabe in the run off under the guise of war veterans. With the exception of two, all the deployed officers are senior serving officers of the armed services. It is understood that Lt. Gen. PV Sibanda will command the operation with the assistance of Maj. Gen. Nick Dube. General Chiwenga will be the overall commander of the operation. He is being assisted by Maj. Gen Last Mugova and Col. S. Mudambo'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/843#comment-182446</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 14:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many thanks, Vincent.

The prolonged delay makes me wonder, also, where the real power lies at this stage? No doubt, Mugabe is still a formidable figure, but an 84-year old can only have so much mental and physical energy.

Are other Zanu-PF and/or army people actually calling the shots? No doubt, huge personal interests (especially financial) may depend on the outcome.&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('182446','Kevin'); return false;"&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('182446','Kevin','Many thanks, Vincent.\r\n\r\nThe prolonged delay makes me wonder, also, where the real power lies at this stage? No doubt, Mugabe is still a formidable figure, but an 84-year old can only have so much mental and physical energy.\r\n\r\nAre other Zanu-PF and\/or army people actually calling the shots? No doubt, huge personal interests (especially financial) may depend on the outcome.'); return false;"&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks, Vincent.</p>
<p>The prolonged delay makes me wonder, also, where the real power lies at this stage? No doubt, Mugabe is still a formidable figure, but an 84-year old can only have so much mental and physical energy.</p>
<p>Are other Zanu-PF and/or army people actually calling the shots? No doubt, huge personal interests (especially financial) may depend on the outcome.
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		<title>By: vincent</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 13:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin according to my understanding the zesn s results was based on a sampling of some 400 or so polling station which showed that variance .In other words the data collected might not be what is on the ground.The mdc finding as supported by zimelectionresults could be closer to the truth.However a point of caution it is possible that the results for MT could be highier than the projection by the mdc and zimresults.Why do I say that there are a number of pointers on the ground namely(1) the failure to announce the results up to now(2)the idea being touted of a run off even before we know the results(3)the fact that zpf has started to cllect the 4900 votes even before announcement of results in abid to bring down MTs'totals and lastly(4) zpf appears to be in a quandry as to what to do as of now we have no govt mugabe is ruling but without appearing to do so because he knows that he does not have the legal right to do so.That would be my reading of the situation on the ground I might be wrong but I doubt it very much.&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('182368','vincent'); return false;"&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('182368','vincent','Kevin according to my understanding the zesn s results was based on a sampling of some 400 or so polling station which showed that variance .In other words the data collected might not be what is on the ground.The mdc finding as supported by zimelectionresults could be closer to the truth.However a point of caution it is possible that the results for MT could be highier than the projection by the mdc and zimresults.Why do I say that there are a number of pointers on the ground namely(1) the failure to announce the results up to now(2)the idea being touted of a run off even before we know the results(3)the fact that zpf has started to cllect the 4900 votes even before announcement of results in abid to bring down MTs\'totals and lastly(4) zpf appears to be in a quandry as to what to do as of now we have no govt mugabe is ruling but without appearing to do so because he knows that he does not have the legal right to do so.That would be my reading of the situation on the ground I might be wrong but I doubt it very much.'); return false;"&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin according to my understanding the zesn s results was based on a sampling of some 400 or so polling station which showed that variance .In other words the data collected might not be what is on the ground.The mdc finding as supported by zimelectionresults could be closer to the truth.However a point of caution it is possible that the results for MT could be highier than the projection by the mdc and zimresults.Why do I say that there are a number of pointers on the ground namely(1) the failure to announce the results up to now(2)the idea being touted of a run off even before we know the results(3)the fact that zpf has started to cllect the 4900 votes even before announcement of results in abid to bring down MTs&#8217;totals and lastly(4) zpf appears to be in a quandry as to what to do as of now we have no govt mugabe is ruling but without appearing to do so because he knows that he does not have the legal right to do so.That would be my reading of the situation on the ground I might be wrong but I doubt it very much.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('182368','vincent'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('182368','vincent','Kevin according to my understanding the zesn s results was based on a sampling of some 400 or so polling station which showed that variance .In other words the data collected might not be what is on the ground.The mdc finding as supported by zimelectionresults could be closer to the truth.However a point of caution it is possible that the results for MT could be highier than the projection by the mdc and zimresults.Why do I say that there are a number of pointers on the ground namely(1) the failure to announce the results up to now(2)the idea being touted of a run off even before we know the results(3)the fact that zpf has started to cllect the 4900 votes even before announcement of results in abid to bring down MTs\'totals and lastly(4) zpf appears to be in a quandry as to what to do as of now we have no govt mugabe is ruling but without appearing to do so because he knows that he does not have the legal right to do so.That would be my reading of the situation on the ground I might be wrong but I doubt it very much.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: vincent</title>
		<link>http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/843#comment-182095</link>
		<dc:creator>vincent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 08:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have always wondered why this govt thinks its legitimate for it to continue holding onto power when they lack the mandate to govern and it has made me realise that they believe that this country of ours is God gven to them to ruin.Can you imagine even the most iliterate so called war vet thinks he has a right to invade some one s'land and claim it as his yet numerous farms have been invaded and now are dust bowls after the fruits of ones labour has been removed they are unable todo anything with the land.Such is our story CRY THE BELOVED COUNTRY&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('182095','vincent'); return false;"&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('182095','vincent','I have always wondered why this govt thinks its legitimate for it to continue holding onto power when they lack the mandate to govern and it has made me realise that they believe that this country of ours is God gven to them to ruin.Can you imagine even the most iliterate so called war vet thinks he has a right to invade some one s\'land and claim it as his yet numerous farms have been invaded and now are dust bowls after the fruits of ones labour has been removed they are unable todo anything with the land.Such is our story CRY THE BELOVED COUNTRY'); return false;"&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always wondered why this govt thinks its legitimate for it to continue holding onto power when they lack the mandate to govern and it has made me realise that they believe that this country of ours is God gven to them to ruin.Can you imagine even the most iliterate so called war vet thinks he has a right to invade some one s&#8217;land and claim it as his yet numerous farms have been invaded and now are dust bowls after the fruits of ones labour has been removed they are unable todo anything with the land.Such is our story CRY THE BELOVED COUNTRY
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('182095','vincent'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('182095','vincent','I have always wondered why this govt thinks its legitimate for it to continue holding onto power when they lack the mandate to govern and it has made me realise that they believe that this country of ours is God gven to them to ruin.Can you imagine even the most iliterate so called war vet thinks he has a right to invade some one s\'land and claim it as his yet numerous farms have been invaded and now are dust bowls after the fruits of ones labour has been removed they are unable todo anything with the land.Such is our story CRY THE BELOVED COUNTRY'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/843#comment-181584</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 01:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for sharing that (horrific) first-hand account.

For those of us outside Zimbabwe trying to make sense of the Presidential results, could anyone comment on the reliability/credibility of the two bodies claiming to be 'independent'?

According to the PVT at www.zimelectionresults.com, Morgan Tsvangirai won 50.3% (the figure apparently accepted by Mr. Tsvangirai, making him the outright winner)

According to www.zesn.org.zw/, Morgan Tsvangirai won with 49.4% (supposedly, the figure accepted by Zany-PF, justifying a run-off).

Is the Zimbabwe Election Support Network actually independent and credible? What is the difference between the two 'independent' organizations?

Thanks for any help with this.&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('181584','Kevin'); return false;"&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('181584','Kevin','Thanks for sharing that (horrific) first-hand account.\r\n\r\nFor those of us outside Zimbabwe trying to make sense of the Presidential results, could anyone comment on the reliability\/credibility of the two bodies claiming to be \'independent\'?\r\n\r\nAccording to the PVT at www.zimelectionresults.com, Morgan Tsvangirai won 50.3% (the figure apparently accepted by Mr. Tsvangirai, making him the outright winner)\r\n\r\nAccording to www.zesn.org.zw\/, Morgan Tsvangirai won with 49.4% (supposedly, the figure accepted by Zany-PF, justifying a run-off).\r\n\r\nIs the Zimbabwe Election Support Network actually independent and credible? What is the difference between the two \'independent\' organizations?\r\n\r\nThanks for any help with this.'); return false;"&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing that (horrific) first-hand account.</p>
<p>For those of us outside Zimbabwe trying to make sense of the Presidential results, could anyone comment on the reliability/credibility of the two bodies claiming to be &#8216;independent&#8217;?</p>
<p>According to the PVT at <a href="http://www.zimelectionresults.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.zimelectionresults.com</a>, Morgan Tsvangirai won 50.3% (the figure apparently accepted by Mr. Tsvangirai, making him the outright winner)</p>
<p>According to <a href="http://www.zesn.org.zw/" rel="nofollow">http://www.zesn.org.zw/</a>, Morgan Tsvangirai won with 49.4% (supposedly, the figure accepted by Zany-PF, justifying a run-off).</p>
<p>Is the Zimbabwe Election Support Network actually independent and credible? What is the difference between the two &#8216;independent&#8217; organizations?</p>
<p>Thanks for any help with this.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('181584','Kevin'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('181584','Kevin','Thanks for sharing that (horrific) first-hand account.\r\n\r\nFor those of us outside Zimbabwe trying to make sense of the Presidential results, could anyone comment on the reliability\/credibility of the two bodies claiming to be \'independent\'?\r\n\r\nAccording to the PVT at <a href="http://www.zimelectionresults.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.zimelectionresults.com</a>, Morgan Tsvangirai won 50.3% (the figure apparently accepted by Mr. Tsvangirai, making him the outright winner)\r\n\r\nAccording to <a href="http://www.zesn.org.zw" rel="nofollow">http://www.zesn.org.zw</a>\/, Morgan Tsvangirai won with 49.4% (supposedly, the figure accepted by Zany-PF, justifying a run-off).\r\n\r\nIs the Zimbabwe Election Support Network actually independent and credible? What is the difference between the two \&#8217;independent\&#8217; organizations?\r\n\r\nThanks for any help with this.&#8217;); return false;&#8221;>Quote from this comment</div>
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		<title>By: Beth</title>
		<link>http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/843#comment-181388</link>
		<dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 22:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would it help to have a pertition going to SADCC, AU Thabo Mbeki and anyone who might be able to be of influence to save our country in this period of impasse. I am going crazy and wish there was something practical that I could do.&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('181388','Beth'); return false;"&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('181388','Beth','Would it help to have a pertition going to SADCC, AU Thabo Mbeki and anyone who might be able to be of influence to save our country in this period of impasse. I am going crazy and wish there was something practical that I could do.'); return false;"&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would it help to have a pertition going to SADCC, AU Thabo Mbeki and anyone who might be able to be of influence to save our country in this period of impasse. I am going crazy and wish there was something practical that I could do.
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		<title>By: brooklynzim</title>
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		<dc:creator>brooklynzim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 22:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you for an incredible and inspiring story. it is courage like this that is freeing Zimbabwe. the end is around the corner and it is actions like yours and those of tens of thousands of others on election day that is helping us get to that place.&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('181364','brooklynzim'); return false;"&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('181364','brooklynzim','thank you for an incredible and inspiring story. it is courage like this that is freeing Zimbabwe. the end is around the corner and it is actions like yours and those of tens of thousands of others on election day that is helping us get to that place.'); return false;"&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you for an incredible and inspiring story. it is courage like this that is freeing Zimbabwe. the end is around the corner and it is actions like yours and those of tens of thousands of others on election day that is helping us get to that place.
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		<title>By: Sandra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 21:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's now not the first time you hear the voices of people (on internet) who got phonecalls from insiders of ZEC who told shortly after the vote giving that Tsvangirai got around 60% or something. And now the arrests of these people...What can I say more for the moment. Hope that truth will come out soon.&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('181327','Sandra'); return false;"&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('181327','Sandra','It\'s now not the first time you hear the voices of people (on internet) who got phonecalls from insiders of ZEC who told shortly after the vote giving that Tsvangirai got around 60% or something. And now the arrests of these people...What can I say more for the moment. Hope that truth will come out soon.'); return false;"&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s now not the first time you hear the voices of people (on internet) who got phonecalls from insiders of ZEC who told shortly after the vote giving that Tsvangirai got around 60% or something. And now the arrests of these people&#8230;What can I say more for the moment. Hope that truth will come out soon.
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