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		<title>By: Phillip - Cape Town</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phillip - Cape Town</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 08:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The souls of the northern dead cry out,
'Mbeki, your idle and mute fuel our doubt!
You knew it was wrong, but all along,
you danced to the tune of the murderous lout.
Now all that's left of our once lovely land,
is smouldering ruin, and death, by your hand.
Quiet Diplomacy the concience stills,
and sleep evades not, the one who kills'.&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('189153','Phillip - Cape Town'); return false;"&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('189153','Phillip - Cape Town','The souls of the northern dead cry out,\r\n\'Mbeki, your idle and mute fuel our doubt!\r\nYou knew it was wrong, but all along,\r\nyou danced to the tune of the murderous lout.\r\nNow all that\'s left of our once lovely land,\r\nis smouldering ruin, and death, by your hand.\r\nQuiet Diplomacy the concience stills,\r\nand sleep evades not, the one who kills\'.'); return false;"&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The souls of the northern dead cry out,<br />
&#8216;Mbeki, your idle and mute fuel our doubt!<br />
You knew it was wrong, but all along,<br />
you danced to the tune of the murderous lout.<br />
Now all that&#8217;s left of our once lovely land,<br />
is smouldering ruin, and death, by your hand.<br />
Quiet Diplomacy the concience stills,<br />
and sleep evades not, the one who kills&#8217;.
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		<title>By: Tichatonga</title>
		<link>http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/856/comment-page-1#comment-188242</link>
		<dc:creator>Tichatonga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zimbabweans are suprised by Thabo Mbeki' stance over ZImbabwe. He says ther is no crisis, People are being beaten on a daily basis. The people spoke by ecleting the opposition. But still due to camaradieship SADC still continues to support the despot in Zimbabwe. What pains most is that when the Zimbabwe issue is taken to UN Security Council/AU Mbeki opposes the move, saying he is deling with the matter. I am sorry to say that SADC has failed and that Mbeki is selling out the Zimbabwe people.SADC like AU are adictators club whose purpose is to milk money from donors for their petty projects and useless gatherings.&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('188242','Tichatonga'); return false;"&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('188242','Tichatonga','Zimbabweans are suprised by Thabo Mbeki\' stance over ZImbabwe. He says ther is no crisis, People are being beaten on a daily basis. The people spoke by ecleting the opposition. But still due to camaradieship SADC still continues to support the despot in Zimbabwe. What pains most is that when the Zimbabwe issue is taken to UN Security Council\/AU Mbeki opposes the move, saying he is deling with the matter. I am sorry to say that SADC has failed and that Mbeki is selling out the Zimbabwe people.SADC like AU are adictators club whose purpose is to milk money from donors for their petty projects and useless gatherings.'); return false;"&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zimbabweans are suprised by Thabo Mbeki&#8217; stance over ZImbabwe. He says ther is no crisis, People are being beaten on a daily basis. The people spoke by ecleting the opposition. But still due to camaradieship SADC still continues to support the despot in Zimbabwe. What pains most is that when the Zimbabwe issue is taken to UN Security Council/AU Mbeki opposes the move, saying he is deling with the matter. I am sorry to say that SADC has failed and that Mbeki is selling out the Zimbabwe people.SADC like AU are adictators club whose purpose is to milk money from donors for their petty projects and useless gatherings.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('188242','Tichatonga'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('188242','Tichatonga','Zimbabweans are suprised by Thabo Mbeki\' stance over ZImbabwe. He says ther is no crisis, People are being beaten on a daily basis. The people spoke by ecleting the opposition. But still due to camaradieship SADC still continues to support the despot in Zimbabwe. What pains most is that when the Zimbabwe issue is taken to UN Security Council\/AU Mbeki opposes the move, saying he is deling with the matter. I am sorry to say that SADC has failed and that Mbeki is selling out the Zimbabwe people.SADC like AU are adictators club whose purpose is to milk money from donors for their petty projects and useless gatherings.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: Malcolm</title>
		<link>http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/856/comment-page-1#comment-187558</link>
		<dc:creator>Malcolm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 00:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a couple of suggestions - anyone know how to make representation to the Pope via email? And any thoughts on the likes of Sir Bob Geldof etc? I'll have a look around next opportunity&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('187558','Malcolm'); return false;"&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('187558','Malcolm','Just a couple of suggestions - anyone know how to make representation to the Pope via email? And any thoughts on the likes of Sir Bob Geldof etc? I\'ll have a look around next opportunity'); return false;"&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a couple of suggestions - anyone know how to make representation to the Pope via email? And any thoughts on the likes of Sir Bob Geldof etc? I&#8217;ll have a look around next opportunity
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		<title>By: Miko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 23:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SADC got it wrong. The SADC's cowardly stance must be reversed on the ground in Zimbabwe if it is to be reversed, and SADC marginalized. SADC got the facts wrong on many counts -- 
1) elections were in fact not free and not fair. This was made factually clear before the election day. Yet Zimbabweans spoke their minds anyway. 
2) That there is "no crisis" is contradicted by 77 incidents of intimidation that include violence and injuries requiring hospitalization. 
3) That a second round is needed, that the results should be gotten out now, comes right from the Mugabe camp. 

The heads of state (they can not be called "leaders" if they do not exercise leadership when required)  favor familiarity over change. It's partly rooted in the shameful cultural habit of deference: undue respect for age even in the face of gross incompetence, not causing a colleague embarrassment to the suffering of millions. 

This is not leadership that leads to a better regional future. It is tempting to ask, can the opinion of the SADC be bypassed in tis case? Who needs the opinion of such regional bodies if they fail to exercise leadership when required, and rubber-stamp failed elections?

The facts in Zimbabwe are there. But facts are as facts reported -- meaning that Zim civic groups have partly lost the battle in public relations:
1) not cementing the unfree, unfair nature of the election; 2) not getting out the real results on time in a convincing manner
3) slow to report increasing violence. 

Zim civics, the world wants to see and hear more of what you know. On ZESN, Crisis, Kubatana, and others who have the means to communicate with the world, pick it up and please get it out, the world is eager to hear from you.&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('187525','Miko'); return false;"&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('187525','Miko','SADC got it wrong. The SADC\'s cowardly stance must be reversed on the ground in Zimbabwe if it is to be reversed, and SADC marginalized. SADC got the facts wrong on many counts -- \r\n1) elections were in fact not free and not fair. This was made factually clear before the election day. Yet Zimbabweans spoke their minds anyway. \r\n2) That there is \&#34;no crisis\&#34; is contradicted by 77 incidents of intimidation that include violence and injuries requiring hospitalization. \r\n3) That a second round is needed, that the results should be gotten out now, comes right from the Mugabe camp. \r\n\r\nThe heads of state (they can not be called \&#34;leaders\&#34; if they do not exercise leadership when required)  favor familiarity over change. It\'s partly rooted in the shameful cultural habit of deference: undue respect for age even in the face of gross incompetence, not causing a colleague embarrassment to the suffering of millions. \r\n\r\nThis is not leadership that leads to a better regional future. It is tempting to ask, can the opinion of the SADC be bypassed in tis case? Who needs the opinion of such regional bodies if they fail to exercise leadership when required, and rubber-stamp failed elections?\r\n\r\nThe facts in Zimbabwe are there. But facts are as facts reported -- meaning that Zim civic groups have partly lost the battle in public relations:\r\n1) not cementing the unfree, unfair nature of the election; 2) not getting out the real results on time in a convincing manner\r\n3) slow to report increasing violence. \r\n\r\nZim civics, the world wants to see and hear more of what you know. On ZESN, Crisis, Kubatana, and others who have the means to communicate with the world, pick it up and please get it out, the world is eager to hear from you.'); return false;"&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SADC got it wrong. The SADC&#8217;s cowardly stance must be reversed on the ground in Zimbabwe if it is to be reversed, and SADC marginalized. SADC got the facts wrong on many counts &#8212;<br />
1) elections were in fact not free and not fair. This was made factually clear before the election day. Yet Zimbabweans spoke their minds anyway.<br />
2) That there is &#8220;no crisis&#8221; is contradicted by 77 incidents of intimidation that include violence and injuries requiring hospitalization.<br />
3) That a second round is needed, that the results should be gotten out now, comes right from the Mugabe camp. </p>
<p>The heads of state (they can not be called &#8220;leaders&#8221; if they do not exercise leadership when required)  favor familiarity over change. It&#8217;s partly rooted in the shameful cultural habit of deference: undue respect for age even in the face of gross incompetence, not causing a colleague embarrassment to the suffering of millions. </p>
<p>This is not leadership that leads to a better regional future. It is tempting to ask, can the opinion of the SADC be bypassed in tis case? Who needs the opinion of such regional bodies if they fail to exercise leadership when required, and rubber-stamp failed elections?</p>
<p>The facts in Zimbabwe are there. But facts are as facts reported &#8212; meaning that Zim civic groups have partly lost the battle in public relations:<br />
1) not cementing the unfree, unfair nature of the election; 2) not getting out the real results on time in a convincing manner<br />
3) slow to report increasing violence. </p>
<p>Zim civics, the world wants to see and hear more of what you know. On ZESN, Crisis, Kubatana, and others who have the means to communicate with the world, pick it up and please get it out, the world is eager to hear from you.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('187525','Miko'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('187525','Miko','SADC got it wrong. The SADC\'s cowardly stance must be reversed on the ground in Zimbabwe if it is to be reversed, and SADC marginalized. SADC got the facts wrong on many counts -- \r\n1) elections were in fact not free and not fair. This was made factually clear before the election day. Yet Zimbabweans spoke their minds anyway. \r\n2) That there is \&quot;no crisis\&quot; is contradicted by 77 incidents of intimidation that include violence and injuries requiring hospitalization. \r\n3) That a second round is needed, that the results should be gotten out now, comes right from the Mugabe camp. \r\n\r\nThe heads of state (they can not be called \&quot;leaders\&quot; if they do not exercise leadership when required)  favor familiarity over change. It\'s partly rooted in the shameful cultural habit of deference: undue respect for age even in the face of gross incompetence, not causing a colleague embarrassment to the suffering of millions. \r\n\r\nThis is not leadership that leads to a better regional future. It is tempting to ask, can the opinion of the SADC be bypassed in tis case? Who needs the opinion of such regional bodies if they fail to exercise leadership when required, and rubber-stamp failed elections?\r\n\r\nThe facts in Zimbabwe are there. But facts are as facts reported -- meaning that Zim civic groups have partly lost the battle in public relations:\r\n1) not cementing the unfree, unfair nature of the election; 2) not getting out the real results on time in a convincing manner\r\n3) slow to report increasing violence. \r\n\r\nZim civics, the world wants to see and hear more of what you know. On ZESN, Crisis, Kubatana, and others who have the means to communicate with the world, pick it up and please get it out, the world is eager to hear from you.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: Miko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 23:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>President Mbeki has been eclipsed. His actions are self-eclipsing to the diminishment of South Africa, whose image is tarnished before the World Cup. 

Worst of all for the future of South Africa, it's clear that for a significant portion of ANC leadership, it's all about liberation not about democracy. "Liberation Bullshitters" are in charge at the ANC.

Now Mbeki has left it to the people of Zimbabwe to prove him wrong, to relieve him of the role of coordinator for Bob's thugs, chief spokesman and messenger boy for Harare in Lusaka, To Zimbabweans, good luck in winning without Thabo on your side -- you have a better chance without him. Thabo, in the mid-point of your swan song, what a lousy way to go out. It will only get worse for the humiliated, angry Mugabe enabler.&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('187516','Miko'); return false;"&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('187516','Miko','President Mbeki has been eclipsed. His actions are self-eclipsing to the diminishment of South Africa, whose image is tarnished before the World Cup. \r\n\r\nWorst of all for the future of South Africa, it\'s clear that for a significant portion of ANC leadership, it\'s all about liberation not about democracy. \&#34;Liberation Bullshitters\&#34; are in charge at the ANC.\r\n\r\nNow Mbeki has left it to the people of Zimbabwe to prove him wrong, to relieve him of the role of coordinator for Bob\'s thugs, chief spokesman and messenger boy for Harare in Lusaka, To Zimbabweans, good luck in winning without Thabo on your side -- you have a better chance without him. Thabo, in the mid-point of your swan song, what a lousy way to go out. It will only get worse for the humiliated, angry Mugabe enabler.'); return false;"&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>President Mbeki has been eclipsed. His actions are self-eclipsing to the diminishment of South Africa, whose image is tarnished before the World Cup. </p>
<p>Worst of all for the future of South Africa, it&#8217;s clear that for a significant portion of ANC leadership, it&#8217;s all about liberation not about democracy. &#8220;Liberation Bullshitters&#8221; are in charge at the ANC.</p>
<p>Now Mbeki has left it to the people of Zimbabwe to prove him wrong, to relieve him of the role of coordinator for Bob&#8217;s thugs, chief spokesman and messenger boy for Harare in Lusaka, To Zimbabweans, good luck in winning without Thabo on your side &#8212; you have a better chance without him. Thabo, in the mid-point of your swan song, what a lousy way to go out. It will only get worse for the humiliated, angry Mugabe enabler.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('187516','Miko'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('187516','Miko','President Mbeki has been eclipsed. His actions are self-eclipsing to the diminishment of South Africa, whose image is tarnished before the World Cup. \r\n\r\nWorst of all for the future of South Africa, it\'s clear that for a significant portion of ANC leadership, it\'s all about liberation not about democracy. \&quot;Liberation Bullshitters\&quot; are in charge at the ANC.\r\n\r\nNow Mbeki has left it to the people of Zimbabwe to prove him wrong, to relieve him of the role of coordinator for Bob\'s thugs, chief spokesman and messenger boy for Harare in Lusaka, To Zimbabweans, good luck in winning without Thabo on your side -- you have a better chance without him. Thabo, in the mid-point of your swan song, what a lousy way to go out. It will only get worse for the humiliated, angry Mugabe enabler.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: innyanga</title>
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		<dc:creator>innyanga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 18:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm an ex-South African, living in Australia, who last visited Zimbabwe many years ago, and have been avidly following the recent news about your elections.  I don't know what news you receive and what you don't, but can tell you that many people here are appalled at the events in Zimbabwe.  
Surely, it is patently obvious to anyone with an ounce of sense, that Mugabe is a tyrant, a megalomaniac, and totally evil.  He has the blood of many Zimbabweans on his hands.  Other countries could have done much more to eradicate Zimbabwe of this evil man and his cohorts.
Even if Mugabe were not a tyrant, it is clear that he lost the election, and should be forcibly removed if he won't step down.  It is illegal and unconscionable that the election results have not been revealed so long after the election.  
Western leaders are guilty for not being more forceful in their condemnation of Mugabe, but it the leaders of Southern African countries are to be roundly condemned for their complicity in the evil that is Mugabe and his cohorts, and for supporting the current government in their refusal to release the election results.
Frankly, I have no respect for Mbeki, due to his idiotic stance on HIV-AIDS. Truly, in that alone, the man is a fool.  To see vision on our news broadcast tonight of Mbeki stopping off in Harare to visit Mugabe en route to the SADC summit in Zambia made me feel physically ill, and ashamed of my former homeland's government.
To all decent Zimbabweans fighting for change in your country, I salute you, admire your great courage, and pray that you will finally succeeed in your fight to evict this evil man and ZANU-PF from your beautiful country.&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('187219','innyanga'); return false;"&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('187219','innyanga','I\'m an ex-South African, living in Australia, who last visited Zimbabwe many years ago, and have been avidly following the recent news about your elections.  I don\'t know what news you receive and what you don\'t, but can tell you that many people here are appalled at the events in Zimbabwe.  \r\nSurely, it is patently obvious to anyone with an ounce of sense, that Mugabe is a tyrant, a megalomaniac, and totally evil.  He has the blood of many Zimbabweans on his hands.  Other countries could have done much more to eradicate Zimbabwe of this evil man and his cohorts.\r\nEven if Mugabe were not a tyrant, it is clear that he lost the election, and should be forcibly removed if he won\'t step down.  It is illegal and unconscionable that the election results have not been revealed so long after the election.  \r\nWestern leaders are guilty for not being more forceful in their condemnation of Mugabe, but it the leaders of Southern African countries are to be roundly condemned for their complicity in the evil that is Mugabe and his cohorts, and for supporting the current government in their refusal to release the election results.\r\nFrankly, I have no respect for Mbeki, due to his idiotic stance on HIV-AIDS. Truly, in that alone, the man is a fool.  To see vision on our news broadcast tonight of Mbeki stopping off in Harare to visit Mugabe en route to the SADC summit in Zambia made me feel physically ill, and ashamed of my former homeland\'s government.\r\nTo all decent Zimbabweans fighting for change in your country, I salute you, admire your great courage, and pray that you will finally succeeed in your fight to evict this evil man and ZANU-PF from your beautiful country.'); return false;"&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m an ex-South African, living in Australia, who last visited Zimbabwe many years ago, and have been avidly following the recent news about your elections.  I don&#8217;t know what news you receive and what you don&#8217;t, but can tell you that many people here are appalled at the events in Zimbabwe.<br />
Surely, it is patently obvious to anyone with an ounce of sense, that Mugabe is a tyrant, a megalomaniac, and totally evil.  He has the blood of many Zimbabweans on his hands.  Other countries could have done much more to eradicate Zimbabwe of this evil man and his cohorts.<br />
Even if Mugabe were not a tyrant, it is clear that he lost the election, and should be forcibly removed if he won&#8217;t step down.  It is illegal and unconscionable that the election results have not been revealed so long after the election.<br />
Western leaders are guilty for not being more forceful in their condemnation of Mugabe, but it the leaders of Southern African countries are to be roundly condemned for their complicity in the evil that is Mugabe and his cohorts, and for supporting the current government in their refusal to release the election results.<br />
Frankly, I have no respect for Mbeki, due to his idiotic stance on HIV-AIDS. Truly, in that alone, the man is a fool.  To see vision on our news broadcast tonight of Mbeki stopping off in Harare to visit Mugabe en route to the SADC summit in Zambia made me feel physically ill, and ashamed of my former homeland&#8217;s government.<br />
To all decent Zimbabweans fighting for change in your country, I salute you, admire your great courage, and pray that you will finally succeeed in your fight to evict this evil man and ZANU-PF from your beautiful country.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('187219','innyanga'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('187219','innyanga','I\'m an ex-South African, living in Australia, who last visited Zimbabwe many years ago, and have been avidly following the recent news about your elections.  I don\'t know what news you receive and what you don\'t, but can tell you that many people here are appalled at the events in Zimbabwe.  \r\nSurely, it is patently obvious to anyone with an ounce of sense, that Mugabe is a tyrant, a megalomaniac, and totally evil.  He has the blood of many Zimbabweans on his hands.  Other countries could have done much more to eradicate Zimbabwe of this evil man and his cohorts.\r\nEven if Mugabe were not a tyrant, it is clear that he lost the election, and should be forcibly removed if he won\'t step down.  It is illegal and unconscionable that the election results have not been revealed so long after the election.  \r\nWestern leaders are guilty for not being more forceful in their condemnation of Mugabe, but it the leaders of Southern African countries are to be roundly condemned for their complicity in the evil that is Mugabe and his cohorts, and for supporting the current government in their refusal to release the election results.\r\nFrankly, I have no respect for Mbeki, due to his idiotic stance on HIV-AIDS. Truly, in that alone, the man is a fool.  To see vision on our news broadcast tonight of Mbeki stopping off in Harare to visit Mugabe en route to the SADC summit in Zambia made me feel physically ill, and ashamed of my former homeland\'s government.\r\nTo all decent Zimbabweans fighting for change in your country, I salute you, admire your great courage, and pray that you will finally succeeed in your fight to evict this evil man and ZANU-PF from your beautiful country.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: BOOMERANG</title>
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		<dc:creator>BOOMERANG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 09:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SCOTCHCART
JUST FOUND WEBSITE 
 24.COM/BLOGS
DIFFERENT EMAILS ARE ON THERE IF YOU SCROLL DOWN REGARDING THE PROBLEMS THIS FARMER HAS HAD AND OTHER THINGS HAPPENING YESTERDAY
WORTH EVERYONE GOING ON TO READ IT&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('186796','BOOMERANG'); return false;"&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('186796','BOOMERANG','SCOTCHCART\r\nJUST FOUND WEBSITE \r\n 24.COM\/BLOGS\r\nDIFFERENT EMAILS ARE ON THERE IF YOU SCROLL DOWN REGARDING THE PROBLEMS THIS FARMER HAS HAD AND OTHER THINGS HAPPENING YESTERDAY\r\nWORTH EVERYONE GOING ON TO READ IT'); return false;"&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SCOTCHCART<br />
JUST FOUND WEBSITE<br />
 24.COM/BLOGS<br />
DIFFERENT EMAILS ARE ON THERE IF YOU SCROLL DOWN REGARDING THE PROBLEMS THIS FARMER HAS HAD AND OTHER THINGS HAPPENING YESTERDAY<br />
WORTH EVERYONE GOING ON TO READ IT
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		<title>By: Ralph - Australia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralph - Australia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 08:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mbeki has by his words and inaction relegated himself to the ineffectual sidelines, and brought shame on himself, his country and all decent people. I am now all the more afraid for the people of Zimbabwe as they will fast realise that no-one is going to help them but themselves and this may lead to a bloody struggle. My fervent hope is that it will be done gradually with people who have been aligned with Mugabe gradually rejoining the good people of Zimbabwe that belief in truth, democracy and that only democracy can lead to the road to recovery, economic and otherwise for a tortured Zimbabwe. We watch in earnest.&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('186783','Ralph - Australia'); return false;"&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('186783','Ralph - Australia','Mbeki has by his words and inaction relegated himself to the ineffectual sidelines, and brought shame on himself, his country and all decent people. I am now all the more afraid for the people of Zimbabwe as they will fast realise that no-one is going to help them but themselves and this may lead to a bloody struggle. My fervent hope is that it will be done gradually with people who have been aligned with Mugabe gradually rejoining the good people of Zimbabwe that belief in truth, democracy and that only democracy can lead to the road to recovery, economic and otherwise for a tortured Zimbabwe. We watch in earnest.'); return false;"&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mbeki has by his words and inaction relegated himself to the ineffectual sidelines, and brought shame on himself, his country and all decent people. I am now all the more afraid for the people of Zimbabwe as they will fast realise that no-one is going to help them but themselves and this may lead to a bloody struggle. My fervent hope is that it will be done gradually with people who have been aligned with Mugabe gradually rejoining the good people of Zimbabwe that belief in truth, democracy and that only democracy can lead to the road to recovery, economic and otherwise for a tortured Zimbabwe. We watch in earnest.
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		<title>By: BOOMERANG</title>
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		<dc:creator>BOOMERANG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 08:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SCOTCHCART
YOU NEED TO JOIN FACEBOOK THEN YOU ENTER YOUR PASSWORD AND IT TAKES YOU TO HER FACEBOOK SHE SEEMS TO BE IN TROUBLE AT THE FARM AND ANOTHER FARMER ALSO  HER NAME IS ANNETTE STRACHAN&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('186782','BOOMERANG'); return false;"&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('186782','BOOMERANG','SCOTCHCART\r\nYOU NEED TO JOIN FACEBOOK THEN YOU ENTER YOUR PASSWORD AND IT TAKES YOU TO HER FACEBOOK SHE SEEMS TO BE IN TROUBLE AT THE FARM AND ANOTHER FARMER ALSO  HER NAME IS ANNETTE STRACHAN'); return false;"&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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YOU NEED TO JOIN FACEBOOK THEN YOU ENTER YOUR PASSWORD AND IT TAKES YOU TO HER FACEBOOK SHE SEEMS TO BE IN TROUBLE AT THE FARM AND ANOTHER FARMER ALSO  HER NAME IS ANNETTE STRACHAN
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		<title>By: True Grit</title>
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		<dc:creator>True Grit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 01:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hear, hear! Anton in S.Africa. You have made an excellent comment. But don't forget, Lech Walensa from Poland was also a union leader and made an admirable president. True liberalism embodies the spirit of collectivism whilst upholding the rights and dignity of the individual. 

Now that a recount has been announced, let us hope that, especially in the outlying (or as I believe you say in Afrikaans: landelijk) regions, the counting will be well monitored.&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('186505','True Grit'); return false;"&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('186505','True Grit','Hear, hear! Anton in S.Africa. You have made an excellent comment. But don\'t forget, Lech Walensa from Poland was also a union leader and made an admirable president. True liberalism embodies the spirit of collectivism whilst upholding the rights and dignity of the individual. \r\n\r\nNow that a recount has been announced, let us hope that, especially in the outlying (or as I believe you say in Afrikaans: landelijk) regions, the counting will be well monitored.'); return false;"&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hear, hear! Anton in S.Africa. You have made an excellent comment. But don&#8217;t forget, Lech Walensa from Poland was also a union leader and made an admirable president. True liberalism embodies the spirit of collectivism whilst upholding the rights and dignity of the individual. </p>
<p>Now that a recount has been announced, let us hope that, especially in the outlying (or as I believe you say in Afrikaans: landelijk) regions, the counting will be well monitored.
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		<title>By: Anton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 21:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apologies to Zimbabwean people from South Africa for our lame duck president. He has always been a man who speaks a lot and says nothing and in some cases even subtracts wisdom from the subject he is talking about. I did not vote ANC and cannot understand how some African voters, vote like syncopantic slaves, over and over again for the same self-serving and useless idiots. South African leaders have a history of betraying Zimbabwean leaders. BJ Vorster betrayed Ian Smith too!

Anyway, I think Zimbabwe also has had one of the greatest men ever to have come out of Africa born there in Ian Smith. The bad press from the UK over him was because he declared UDI and the liberals over there swallowed all the Marxist "liberators" lies about him. Mugabe was their man (not quite the puppet they had in mind ) now they have to wipe the egg from their faces for installing him.Pius Ngube is also a courageous and admirable man who said of African leaders " All they do is back each other up and drink tea together. African leaders keep saying it is for the people of Zimbabwe to work it out. This is just an excuse for them.They fear facing the facts but they know very well there are so many injustices in Zimbabwe " So far in Africa, an African "leader" is like a man standing there with his arms folded while a woman is being raped by a another man and saying that it is for her to work it out by herself. Jesus said "..cowards...will not enter into the kingdom of heaven" because he equated them with murderers.

Morgan is also an excellent man to have withstood with such courage the evil of ZANU-PF. I like him for this but I am not so keen on the collectivism/socialism of his politics from his trade-unionism beginings, but nevertheless ,it may just have been the spring-board into where he is at, now. 

God bless you guys in Zimbabwe and Godspeed to to a new reign !&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('186337','Anton'); return false;"&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('186337','Anton','Apologies to Zimbabwean people from South Africa for our lame duck president. He has always been a man who speaks a lot and says nothing and in some cases even subtracts wisdom from the subject he is talking about. I did not vote ANC and cannot understand how some African voters, vote like syncopantic slaves, over and over again for the same self-serving and useless idiots. South African leaders have a history of betraying Zimbabwean leaders. BJ Vorster betrayed Ian Smith too!\r\n\r\nAnyway, I think Zimbabwe also has had one of the greatest men ever to have come out of Africa born there in Ian Smith. The bad press from the UK over him was because he declared UDI and the liberals over there swallowed all the Marxist \&#34;liberators\&#34; lies about him. Mugabe was their man (not quite the puppet they had in mind ) now they have to wipe the egg from their faces for installing him.Pius Ngube is also a courageous and admirable man who said of African leaders \&#34; All they do is back each other up and drink tea together. African leaders keep saying it is for the people of Zimbabwe to work it out. This is just an excuse for them.They fear facing the facts but they know very well there are so many injustices in Zimbabwe \&#34; So far in Africa, an African \&#34;leader\&#34; is like a man standing there with his arms folded while a woman is being raped by a another man and saying that it is for her to work it out by herself. Jesus said \&#34;..cowards...will not enter into the kingdom of heaven\&#34; because he equated them with murderers.\r\n\r\nMorgan is also an excellent man to have withstood with such courage the evil of ZANU-PF. I like him for this but I am not so keen on the collectivism\/socialism of his politics from his trade-unionism beginings, but nevertheless ,it may just have been the spring-board into where he is at, now. \r\n\r\nGod bless you guys in Zimbabwe and Godspeed to to a new reign !'); return false;"&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apologies to Zimbabwean people from South Africa for our lame duck president. He has always been a man who speaks a lot and says nothing and in some cases even subtracts wisdom from the subject he is talking about. I did not vote ANC and cannot understand how some African voters, vote like syncopantic slaves, over and over again for the same self-serving and useless idiots. South African leaders have a history of betraying Zimbabwean leaders. BJ Vorster betrayed Ian Smith too!</p>
<p>Anyway, I think Zimbabwe also has had one of the greatest men ever to have come out of Africa born there in Ian Smith. The bad press from the UK over him was because he declared UDI and the liberals over there swallowed all the Marxist &#8220;liberators&#8221; lies about him. Mugabe was their man (not quite the puppet they had in mind ) now they have to wipe the egg from their faces for installing him.Pius Ngube is also a courageous and admirable man who said of African leaders &#8221; All they do is back each other up and drink tea together. African leaders keep saying it is for the people of Zimbabwe to work it out. This is just an excuse for them.They fear facing the facts but they know very well there are so many injustices in Zimbabwe &#8221; So far in Africa, an African &#8220;leader&#8221; is like a man standing there with his arms folded while a woman is being raped by a another man and saying that it is for her to work it out by herself. Jesus said &#8220;..cowards&#8230;will not enter into the kingdom of heaven&#8221; because he equated them with murderers.</p>
<p>Morgan is also an excellent man to have withstood with such courage the evil of ZANU-PF. I like him for this but I am not so keen on the collectivism/socialism of his politics from his trade-unionism beginings, but nevertheless ,it may just have been the spring-board into where he is at, now. </p>
<p>God bless you guys in Zimbabwe and Godspeed to to a new reign !
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('186337','Anton'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('186337','Anton','Apologies to Zimbabwean people from South Africa for our lame duck president. He has always been a man who speaks a lot and says nothing and in some cases even subtracts wisdom from the subject he is talking about. I did not vote ANC and cannot understand how some African voters, vote like syncopantic slaves, over and over again for the same self-serving and useless idiots. South African leaders have a history of betraying Zimbabwean leaders. BJ Vorster betrayed Ian Smith too!\r\n\r\nAnyway, I think Zimbabwe also has had one of the greatest men ever to have come out of Africa born there in Ian Smith. The bad press from the UK over him was because he declared UDI and the liberals over there swallowed all the Marxist \&quot;liberators\&quot; lies about him. Mugabe was their man (not quite the puppet they had in mind ) now they have to wipe the egg from their faces for installing him.Pius Ngube is also a courageous and admirable man who said of African leaders \&quot; All they do is back each other up and drink tea together. African leaders keep saying it is for the people of Zimbabwe to work it out. This is just an excuse for them.They fear facing the facts but they know very well there are so many injustices in Zimbabwe \&quot; So far in Africa, an African \&quot;leader\&quot; is like a man standing there with his arms folded while a woman is being raped by a another man and saying that it is for her to work it out by herself. Jesus said \&quot;..cowards...will not enter into the kingdom of heaven\&quot; because he equated them with murderers.\r\n\r\nMorgan is also an excellent man to have withstood with such courage the evil of ZANU-PF. I like him for this but I am not so keen on the collectivism\/socialism of his politics from his trade-unionism beginings, but nevertheless ,it may just have been the spring-board into where he is at, now. \r\n\r\nGod bless you guys in Zimbabwe and Godspeed to to a new reign !'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 21:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who said:

"An African Renaissance must bring an end to these dictatorships, and to the civil wars that have given Africa the distinction of having the largest number of refugees in the world. This business of television pictures showing Africans fleeing war or repression, or dying of desperate hunger because of instability - that must end. 

"We have to address the abuse of the notion of national sovereignty, where terrible things would be going on within the borders of a particular country while the rest of the continent stands paralysed because taking action would be seen as interference. It would be said: "NO! NO!! You are interfering in internal affairs, you are violating national sovereignty". We've got to address that issue"

Step forward ... Thabo Mbeki!
in the Sowetan, 3rd October 1997.&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('186313','Mike'); return false;"&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('186313','Mike','Who said:\r\n\r\n\&#34;An African Renaissance must bring an end to these dictatorships, and to the civil wars that have given Africa the distinction of having the largest number of refugees in the world. This business of television pictures showing Africans fleeing war or repression, or dying of desperate hunger because of instability - that must end. \r\n\r\n\&#34;We have to address the abuse of the notion of national sovereignty, where terrible things would be going on within the borders of a particular country while the rest of the continent stands paralysed because taking action would be seen as interference. It would be said: \&#34;NO! NO!! You are interfering in internal affairs, you are violating national sovereignty\&#34;. We\'ve got to address that issue\&#34;\r\n\r\nStep forward ... Thabo Mbeki!\r\nin the Sowetan, 3rd October 1997.'); return false;"&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>&#8220;An African Renaissance must bring an end to these dictatorships, and to the civil wars that have given Africa the distinction of having the largest number of refugees in the world. This business of television pictures showing Africans fleeing war or repression, or dying of desperate hunger because of instability - that must end. </p>
<p>&#8220;We have to address the abuse of the notion of national sovereignty, where terrible things would be going on within the borders of a particular country while the rest of the continent stands paralysed because taking action would be seen as interference. It would be said: &#8220;NO! NO!! You are interfering in internal affairs, you are violating national sovereignty&#8221;. We&#8217;ve got to address that issue&#8221;</p>
<p>Step forward &#8230; Thabo Mbeki!<br />
in the Sowetan, 3rd October 1997.
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		<title>By: chidembo</title>
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		<dc:creator>chidembo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 21:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure how long it will stay up but there seems to be an interesting new addition to the list of Incumbent leaders of regimes who assumed power via a coup d'état on Wikipedia...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coup_d'état&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('186301','chidembo'); return false;"&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('186301','chidembo','Not sure how long it will stay up but there seems to be an interesting new addition to the list of Incumbent leaders of regimes who assumed power via a coup d\'&#195;&#169;tat on Wikipedia...\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Coup_d\'&#195;&#169;tat'); return false;"&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure how long it will stay up but there seems to be an interesting new addition to the list of Incumbent leaders of regimes who assumed power via a coup d&#8217;état on Wikipedia&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coup_d" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coup_d</a>&#8216;état
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		<title>By: scotchcart</title>
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		<dc:creator>scotchcart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 21:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ new generation - I couldn't find what you mean.  The link just takes me to the home page.&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('186280','scotchcart'); return false;"&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('186280','scotchcart','@ new generation - I couldn\'t find what you mean.  The link just takes me to the home page.'); return false;"&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ new generation - I couldn&#8217;t find what you mean.  The link just takes me to the home page.
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		<title>By: Dino</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 20:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree, I think that Mbeki has never failed to deliver because he always delivers exactly what we expect him to: ^&#038;*%$£ all!&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('186251','Dino'); return false;"&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('186251','Dino','I disagree, I think that Mbeki has never failed to deliver because he always delivers exactly what we expect him to: ^&#38;*%$&#194;&#163; all!'); return false;"&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree, I think that Mbeki has never failed to deliver because he always delivers exactly what we expect him to: ^&#038;*%$£ all!
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		<title>By: new generation</title>
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		<dc:creator>new generation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 19:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>guya i thinkthis is serious,found this online....dont know if anyone has any idea how to help
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>guya i thinkthis is serious,found this online&#8230;.dont know if anyone has any idea how to help<br />
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		<title>By: new generation</title>
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		<dc:creator>new generation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 19:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Thabo Mbeki is overhyped, i didnt actually hear him say the comment but someone told me, i really dont know what he is afraid of. Last Thursday in ENgland ,on a programme called Question Time, one of the punduts said that -maybe Africans just can not govern themselves.when i heard that i was deeply offended but if people like Thabo Mbeki make such iresponsible remarks than that notion that we need to be 'governed' will still stand. I think we need to stop looking at Mbeki as a voice of reason......as Zimbabweans we need to keep sending emails,calling and putting pressure for change.
God bless Zimbabwe...&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('186201','new generation'); return false;"&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('186201','new generation','I think Thabo Mbeki is overhyped, i didnt actually hear him say the comment but someone told me, i really dont know what he is afraid of. Last Thursday in ENgland ,on a programme called Question Time, one of the punduts said that -maybe Africans just can not govern themselves.when i heard that i was deeply offended but if people like Thabo Mbeki make such iresponsible remarks than that notion that we need to be \'governed\' will still stand. I think we need to stop looking at Mbeki as a voice of reason......as Zimbabweans we need to keep sending emails,calling and putting pressure for change.\r\nGod bless Zimbabwe...'); return false;"&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Thabo Mbeki is overhyped, i didnt actually hear him say the comment but someone told me, i really dont know what he is afraid of. Last Thursday in ENgland ,on a programme called Question Time, one of the punduts said that -maybe Africans just can not govern themselves.when i heard that i was deeply offended but if people like Thabo Mbeki make such iresponsible remarks than that notion that we need to be &#8216;governed&#8217; will still stand. I think we need to stop looking at Mbeki as a voice of reason&#8230;&#8230;as Zimbabweans we need to keep sending emails,calling and putting pressure for change.<br />
God bless Zimbabwe&#8230;
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		<title>By: chidembo</title>
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		<dc:creator>chidembo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 18:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In addition to years of baffling solidarity with Mugabe, today Mbeki has made himself entirely complicit in a coup d'etat.

There is room in the Hague for many defendants Mr. Mbeki, you won't have the immunity of a serving head of state for much longer!&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('186185','chidembo'); return false;"&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('186185','chidembo','In addition to years of baffling solidarity with Mugabe, today Mbeki has made himself entirely complicit in a coup d\'etat.\r\n\r\nThere is room in the Hague for many defendants Mr. Mbeki, you won\'t have the immunity of a serving head of state for much longer!'); return false;"&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition to years of baffling solidarity with Mugabe, today Mbeki has made himself entirely complicit in a coup d&#8217;etat.</p>
<p>There is room in the Hague for many defendants Mr. Mbeki, you won&#8217;t have the immunity of a serving head of state for much longer!
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		<title>By: A friend.</title>
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		<dc:creator>A friend.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 18:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Words fail me!!!!!! 

Talk about foot in mouth, I am more shocked that he uttered the words he was actually thinking than the fact he actually said them. I audibly gasped and clutched my chest when I read your post!! I cannot believe it!! :-(&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('186177','A friend.'); return false;"&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('186177','A friend.','Words fail me!!!!!! \r\n\r\nTalk about foot in mouth, I am more shocked that he uttered the words he was actually thinking than the fact he actually said them. I audibly gasped and clutched my chest when I read your post!! I cannot believe it!! :-('); return false;"&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Words fail me!!!!!! </p>
<p>Talk about foot in mouth, I am more shocked that he uttered the words he was actually thinking than the fact he actually said them. I audibly gasped and clutched my chest when I read your post!! I cannot believe it!! <img src='http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 17:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sending thsi email to all my friends who live outside of Zimbabwe and South Africa:

Dear Friend

I write to you as a Zimbabwean to ask you to consider boycotting South African goods and services from today and until South Africa supports the people of Zimbabwe. On Saturday 12th April, Thabo Mbeki, the President of South Africa, publically held hands with Robert Mugabe and declared that there was 'no crisis in Zimbabwe'. South Africa is by far the most powerful country in the region and no other country can afford to contradict Mbeki.

It is widely accepted that Zimbabweans have been subjected to violence by the Zimbabwean state for many years to consolidate the Mugabe regime. South Africa has the power to effect change in Zimbabwe, but Mbeki appears to be placing personal friendship above any principles. I ask you to consider boycotting South African goods and services until the South African government supports democracy in Zimbabwe. If you decide to do this, you could also do the following two things: 

1. inform the South African government of your decision by sending the following email to them at &#112;&#114;&#101;&#115;&#105;d&#101;nt&#64;&#112;o&#46;&#103;ov.&#122;a :

"I email to inform you that I have decided to boycott South African goods and services until such time as your government supports the people of Zimbabwe."

2. Forward this email to anybody you feel may sympathise with the plight of the Zimbabwean people. 

On behalf of the people of Zimbabwe, thank you.'&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('186139','Jim'); return false;"&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('186139','Jim','I am sending thsi email to all my friends who live outside of Zimbabwe and South Africa:\r\n\r\nDear Friend\r\n\r\nI write to you as a Zimbabwean to ask you to consider boycotting South African goods and services from today and until South Africa supports the people of Zimbabwe. On Saturday 12th April, Thabo Mbeki, the President of South Africa, publically held hands with Robert Mugabe and declared that there was \'no crisis in Zimbabwe\'. South Africa is by far the most powerful country in the region and no other country can afford to contradict Mbeki.\r\n\r\nIt is widely accepted that Zimbabweans have been subjected to violence by the Zimbabwean state for many years to consolidate the Mugabe regime. South Africa has the power to effect change in Zimbabwe, but Mbeki appears to be placing personal friendship above any principles. I ask you to consider boycotting South African goods and services until the South African government supports democracy in Zimbabwe. If you decide to do this, you could also do the following two things: \r\n\r\n1. inform the South African government of your decision by sending the following email to them at &#112;r&#101;&#115;&#105;de&#110;t&#64;&#112;o.gov.&#122;a :\r\n\r\n\&#34;I email to inform you that I have decided to boycott South African goods and services until such time as your government supports the people of Zimbabwe.\&#34;\r\n\r\n2. Forward this email to anybody you feel may sympathise with the plight of the Zimbabwean people. \r\n\r\nOn behalf of the people of Zimbabwe, thank you.\''); return false;"&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sending thsi email to all my friends who live outside of Zimbabwe and South Africa:</p>
<p>Dear Friend</p>
<p>I write to you as a Zimbabwean to ask you to consider boycotting South African goods and services from today and until South Africa supports the people of Zimbabwe. On Saturday 12th April, Thabo Mbeki, the President of South Africa, publically held hands with Robert Mugabe and declared that there was &#8216;no crisis in Zimbabwe&#8217;. South Africa is by far the most powerful country in the region and no other country can afford to contradict Mbeki.</p>
<p>It is widely accepted that Zimbabweans have been subjected to violence by the Zimbabwean state for many years to consolidate the Mugabe regime. South Africa has the power to effect change in Zimbabwe, but Mbeki appears to be placing personal friendship above any principles. I ask you to consider boycotting South African goods and services until the South African government supports democracy in Zimbabwe. If you decide to do this, you could also do the following two things: </p>
<p>1. inform the South African government of your decision by sending the following email to them at <a href="&#109;&#97;&#105;lt&#111;:p&#114;&#101;sid&#101;nt&#64;&#112;&#111;&#46;g&#111;v.&#122;a">&#112;r&#101;sid&#101;n&#116;&#64;&#112;o&#46;gov&#46;&#122;&#97;</a> :</p>
<p>&#8220;I email to inform you that I have decided to boycott South African goods and services until such time as your government supports the people of Zimbabwe.&#8221;</p>
<p>2. Forward this email to anybody you feel may sympathise with the plight of the Zimbabwean people. </p>
<p>On behalf of the people of Zimbabwe, thank you.&#8217;
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