Comments on: Hands… and other things on the day of a General Strike http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/864 This is Zimbabwe is Sokwanele's pro-democracy activist blog. It provides grassroots news and views from Zimbabwe. Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:30:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Mike http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/864/comment-page-1#comment-191609 Mike Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:10:43 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/864#comment-191609 I just received the following from ROHR (Restoration of Human Rights) in Zimbabwe. I've edited out names... "Security alert. The Zimbabwe Police looking for ROHR members. They came pa[address; name omitted]'s flat looking for our office and threatened mai [name omitted] the tenant with detention if she fails to give them our address. She did not know our address. Individuals from various civic orgs and MDC are being picked and arrested. So far more than 100 arrests have been reported".<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('191609','Mike'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('191609','Mike','I just received the following from ROHR (Restoration of Human Rights) in Zimbabwe. I\'ve edited out names...\r\n\r\n\"Security alert. The Zimbabwe Police looking for ROHR members. They came pa[address; name omitted]\'s flat looking for our office and threatened mai [name omitted] the tenant with detention if she fails to give them our address. She did not know our address. Individuals from various civic orgs and MDC are being picked and arrested. So far more than 100 arrests have been reported\".'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> I just received the following from ROHR (Restoration of Human Rights) in Zimbabwe. I’ve edited out names…

“Security alert. The Zimbabwe Police looking for ROHR members. They came pa[address; name omitted]’s flat looking for our office and threatened mai [name omitted] the tenant with detention if she fails to give them our address. She did not know our address. Individuals from various civic orgs and MDC are being picked and arrested. So far more than 100 arrests have been reported”.

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]]> By: BM http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/864/comment-page-1#comment-189920 BM Wed, 16 Apr 2008 09:16:05 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/864#comment-189920 "Chikwana, 38, says she is not an opposition activist and that her vote is her secret. But not secret enough. There were two polling stations in Chiwaka. The one in the centre appeared to be correctly run but the other, on the edge of the village, raised suspicions. Ahead of the elections Zanu-PF was telling people that they should vote there. "When they were beating me they wanted to know why I didn't go to their polling station. They said to me: there we could see how you put your vote, if you vote in the other place it's secret and that means you voted for the opposition. They said they knew how people voted in that polling station from the figures and it wasn't for Zanu-PF," she said. "They said we must vote for Zanu-PF. If you don't vote Zanu-PF you must go away. They said we were selling the country to the whites." See good report on http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/apr/16/zimbabwe<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('189920','BM'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('189920','BM','\"Chikwana, 38, says she is not an opposition activist and that her vote is her secret. But not secret enough. There were two polling stations in Chiwaka. The one in the centre appeared to be correctly run but the other, on the edge of the village, raised suspicions. Ahead of the elections Zanu-PF was telling people that they should vote there.\r\n\r\n\"When they were beating me they wanted to know why I didn\'t go to their polling station. They said to me: there we could see how you put your vote, if you vote in the other place it\'s secret and that means you voted for the opposition. They said they knew how people voted in that polling station from the figures and it wasn\'t for Zanu-PF,\" she said. \"They said we must vote for Zanu-PF. If you don\'t vote Zanu-PF you must go away. They said we were selling the country to the whites.\"\r\n\r\nSee good report on http:\/\/www.guardian.co.uk\/world\/2008\/apr\/16\/zimbabwe'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> “Chikwana, 38, says she is not an opposition activist and that her vote is her secret. But not secret enough. There were two polling stations in Chiwaka. The one in the centre appeared to be correctly run but the other, on the edge of the village, raised suspicions. Ahead of the elections Zanu-PF was telling people that they should vote there.

“When they were beating me they wanted to know why I didn’t go to their polling station. They said to me: there we could see how you put your vote, if you vote in the other place it’s secret and that means you voted for the opposition. They said they knew how people voted in that polling station from the figures and it wasn’t for Zanu-PF,” she said. “They said we must vote for Zanu-PF. If you don’t vote Zanu-PF you must go away. They said we were selling the country to the whites.”

See good report on http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/apr/16/zimbabwe

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]]> By: Sokwanele http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/864/comment-page-1#comment-189482 Sokwanele Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:16:06 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/864#comment-189482 <a href="http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/864#comment-189430" rel="nofollow">Boomerang</a>: I haven't been able to find anything more yet. I will give you an update, if I can, as soon as I can.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('189482','Sokwanele'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('189482','Sokwanele','<a href=\"http:\/\/www.sokwanele.com\/thisiszimbabwe\/archives\/864#comment-189430\" rel=\"nofollow\">Boomerang<\/a>: I haven\'t been able to find anything more yet. I will give you an update, if I can, as soon as I can.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> Boomerang: I haven’t been able to find anything more yet. I will give you an update, if I can, as soon as I can.
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]]> By: BOOMERANG http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/864/comment-page-1#comment-189430 BOOMERANG Tue, 15 Apr 2008 15:45:49 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/864#comment-189430 you have not come back to advise if the hand story is true have you anymore facts as yet i think you need to let everyone know what facts you have now found as it is very upsetting to say the least very hard for the brain to take in<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('189430','BOOMERANG'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('189430','BOOMERANG','you have not come back to advise if the hand story is true have you anymore facts as yet \r\ni think you need to let everyone know what facts you have now found as it is very upsetting to say the least very hard for the brain to take in'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> you have not come back to advise if the hand story is true have you anymore facts as yet
i think you need to let everyone know what facts you have now found as it is very upsetting to say the least very hard for the brain to take in
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]]> By: BM http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/864/comment-page-1#comment-189363 BM Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:01:34 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/864#comment-189363 This is such awful news. I pray it is not true. As someone has said: what cannot be forgiven is that Mugabe has brutalised and corrupted so many and such lovely Zimbabweans. Keep strong. We have come so far. The darkest before the dawn...<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('189363','BM'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('189363','BM','This is such awful news. I pray it is not true. As someone has said: what cannot be forgiven is that Mugabe has brutalised and corrupted so many and such lovely Zimbabweans. Keep strong. We have come so far. The darkest before the dawn...'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> This is such awful news. I pray it is not true. As someone has said: what cannot be forgiven is that Mugabe has brutalised and corrupted so many and such lovely Zimbabweans. Keep strong. We have come so far. The darkest before the dawn…
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]]> By: True Grit http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/864/comment-page-1#comment-189343 True Grit Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:32:07 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/864#comment-189343 Standing back for a moment, I do believe that the ultimate answer still lies somehow with South Africa. There are already small signs that the ANC are turning (not yet officially against Mugabe personally) but against the unchallenged power of Zanu PF. There is a whiff of new leadership afoot that wants to see a change. How this will play out, and how long it will take to become a full condemnation of the status quo is anyone's guess. But it is there, and, I think, growing.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('189343','True Grit'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('189343','True Grit','Standing back for a moment, I do believe that the ultimate answer still lies somehow with South Africa. There are already small signs that the ANC are turning (not yet officially against Mugabe personally) but against the unchallenged power of Zanu PF. There is a whiff of new leadership afoot that wants to see a change. How this will play out, and how long it will take to become a full condemnation of the status quo is anyone\'s guess. But it is there, and, I think, growing.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> Standing back for a moment, I do believe that the ultimate answer still lies somehow with South Africa. There are already small signs that the ANC are turning (not yet officially against Mugabe personally) but against the unchallenged power of Zanu PF. There is a whiff of new leadership afoot that wants to see a change. How this will play out, and how long it will take to become a full condemnation of the status quo is anyone’s guess. But it is there, and, I think, growing.
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]]> By: Sokwanele http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/864/comment-page-1#comment-189319 Sokwanele Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:45:22 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/864#comment-189319 <a href="http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/864#comment-189231" rel="nofollow">enough</a>: We hear you and are working very hard on finding a way to collect, collate, and make publically available - in a very very easy way accessible to Zimbabweans - a central list of contacts that Zimbabweans can work with. Zimbabweans cannot trawl through the internet looking for contacts; we need a tool at our fingertips.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('189319','Sokwanele'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('189319','Sokwanele','<a href=\"http:\/\/www.sokwanele.com\/thisiszimbabwe\/archives\/864#comment-189231\" rel=\"nofollow\">enough<\/a>: We hear you and are working very hard on finding a way to collect, collate, and make publically available - in a very very easy way accessible to Zimbabweans - a central list of contacts that Zimbabweans can work with. Zimbabweans cannot trawl through the internet looking for contacts; we need a tool at our fingertips.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> enough: We hear you and are working very hard on finding a way to collect, collate, and make publically available – in a very very easy way accessible to Zimbabweans – a central list of contacts that Zimbabweans can work with. Zimbabweans cannot trawl through the internet looking for contacts; we need a tool at our fingertips.
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]]> By: henry http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/864/comment-page-1#comment-189255 henry Tue, 15 Apr 2008 10:17:11 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/864#comment-189255 lthink zimbabweans have been patient enough for how long will the people suffer because of one person who is greed and selfish who does not want to give other people a chance to rule even if he loses in a democratic election.Why is the world afraid of Mugabe<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('189255','henry'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('189255','henry','lthink zimbabweans have been patient enough for how long will the people suffer because of one person who is greed and selfish who does not want to give other people a chance to rule even if he loses in a democratic election.Why is the world afraid of Mugabe'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> lthink zimbabweans have been patient enough for how long will the people suffer because of one person who is greed and selfish who does not want to give other people a chance to rule even if he loses in a democratic election.Why is the world afraid of Mugabe
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]]> By: enough http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/864/comment-page-1#comment-189231 enough Tue, 15 Apr 2008 09:52:28 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/864#comment-189231 Horror. Sokwanele, Please Please publish your list of addresses and a call for mailing action from outside Zim in an immediately visible place and make it very easy to do. I am directing a lot of people to your page to act, outside my personal circle, and it's very important to make it easy for them. Thank you.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('189231','enough'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('189231','enough','Horror. \r\n\r\nSokwanele, Please Please publish your list of addresses and a call for mailing action from outside Zim in an immediately visible place and make it very easy to do. I am directing a lot of people to your page to act, outside my personal circle, and it\'s very important to make it easy for them. Thank you.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> Horror.

Sokwanele, Please Please publish your list of addresses and a call for mailing action from outside Zim in an immediately visible place and make it very easy to do. I am directing a lot of people to your page to act, outside my personal circle, and it’s very important to make it easy for them. Thank you.

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]]> By: scotchcart http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/864/comment-page-1#comment-189190 scotchcart Tue, 15 Apr 2008 09:07:00 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/864#comment-189190 We are listening.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('189190','scotchcart'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('189190','scotchcart','We are listening.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> We are listening.
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]]> By: Sally D http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/864/comment-page-1#comment-189183 Sally D Tue, 15 Apr 2008 08:53:51 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/864#comment-189183 I understand the desperation to do something - anything - yet fear the effects of this strike call. So many are already unemployed in Zimbabwe, struggling to survive and to put one's job at risk is a big ask. I'm also thinking of the tragedies that ensued during the struggle years in SA when local communities effectively turned on each other, burning buses, throwing people's groceries on the ground, forcing women to drink detergent and many worse things. I would think that public actions such as WOZA have done, utilising "flash mobs" and/or well planned acts of symbolic impact (including sabotage), actions that start small (but annoying for ZANU-PF) and gradually ramp up, might be preferable. However, we hope and pray for a positive impact.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('189183','Sally D'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('189183','Sally D','I understand the desperation to do something - anything - yet fear the effects of this strike call. So many are already unemployed in Zimbabwe, struggling to survive and to put one\'s job at risk is a big ask. \r\n\r\nI\'m also thinking of the tragedies that ensued during the struggle years in SA when local communities effectively turned on each other, burning buses, throwing people\'s groceries on the ground, forcing women to drink detergent and many worse things. I would think that public actions such as WOZA have done, utilising \"flash mobs\" and\/or well planned acts of symbolic impact (including sabotage), actions that start small (but annoying for ZANU-PF) and gradually ramp up, might be preferable. However, we hope and pray for a positive impact.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> I understand the desperation to do something – anything – yet fear the effects of this strike call. So many are already unemployed in Zimbabwe, struggling to survive and to put one’s job at risk is a big ask.

I’m also thinking of the tragedies that ensued during the struggle years in SA when local communities effectively turned on each other, burning buses, throwing people’s groceries on the ground, forcing women to drink detergent and many worse things. I would think that public actions such as WOZA have done, utilising “flash mobs” and/or well planned acts of symbolic impact (including sabotage), actions that start small (but annoying for ZANU-PF) and gradually ramp up, might be preferable. However, we hope and pray for a positive impact.

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