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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 12:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to the efforts of Satawu, South African civil society, and a court which is willing to hold the government to account, the Arms ship has left South African waters apparently bound for Beira in Mozambique. We all need to encourage our Mozambican friends to take similar steps to those taken here in South Africa to ensure that the arms are not allowed to pass through Mozambique.  It is time too to lobby our friends in cities where the Olympic torch parade is yet to take place to aid the issue of Chinese arms for the Mugabe regime to China's other human rights atrocities. Just as pressure from civil society around the world ultimately brought the old South African government to its senses, it is time for civil society around the world to stand up for the downtrodden people of Zimbabwe. Please encourage anyone that you may know in Mozambique, in Portugal, and in Australia where the Olympic torch has yet to make its appearance to stop the shipment of arms to Mugabe's regime.&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('195167','Steve'); return false;"&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('195167','Steve','Thanks to the efforts of Satawu, South African civil society, and a court which is willing to hold the government to account, the Arms ship has left South African waters apparently bound for Beira in Mozambique. We all need to encourage our Mozambican friends to take similar steps to those taken here in South Africa to ensure that the arms are not allowed to pass through Mozambique.  It is time too to lobby our friends in cities where the Olympic torch parade is yet to take place to aid the issue of Chinese arms for the Mugabe regime to China\'s other human rights atrocities. Just as pressure from civil society around the world ultimately brought the old South African government to its senses, it is time for civil society around the world to stand up for the downtrodden people of Zimbabwe. Please encourage anyone that you may know in Mozambique, in Portugal, and in Australia where the Olympic torch has yet to make its appearance to stop the shipment of arms to Mugabe\'s regime.'); return false;"&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to the efforts of Satawu, South African civil society, and a court which is willing to hold the government to account, the Arms ship has left South African waters apparently bound for Beira in Mozambique. We all need to encourage our Mozambican friends to take similar steps to those taken here in South Africa to ensure that the arms are not allowed to pass through Mozambique.  It is time too to lobby our friends in cities where the Olympic torch parade is yet to take place to aid the issue of Chinese arms for the Mugabe regime to China&#8217;s other human rights atrocities. Just as pressure from civil society around the world ultimately brought the old South African government to its senses, it is time for civil society around the world to stand up for the downtrodden people of Zimbabwe. Please encourage anyone that you may know in Mozambique, in Portugal, and in Australia where the Olympic torch has yet to make its appearance to stop the shipment of arms to Mugabe&#8217;s regime.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('195167','Steve'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('195167','Steve','Thanks to the efforts of Satawu, South African civil society, and a court which is willing to hold the government to account, the Arms ship has left South African waters apparently bound for Beira in Mozambique. We all need to encourage our Mozambican friends to take similar steps to those taken here in South Africa to ensure that the arms are not allowed to pass through Mozambique.  It is time too to lobby our friends in cities where the Olympic torch parade is yet to take place to aid the issue of Chinese arms for the Mugabe regime to China\'s other human rights atrocities. Just as pressure from civil society around the world ultimately brought the old South African government to its senses, it is time for civil society around the world to stand up for the downtrodden people of Zimbabwe. Please encourage anyone that you may know in Mozambique, in Portugal, and in Australia where the Olympic torch has yet to make its appearance to stop the shipment of arms to Mugabe\'s regime.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: One of millions</title>
		<link>http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/881#comment-193519</link>
		<dc:creator>One of millions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 19:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was there today i stood up to be counted.
Outside the very closed Zimbabwe embassy London.
the atmosphere was uplifting hope and happiness dancing hand in hand
to the sound of  bongo drums.
If this is the way Zimbabweans act when they are suppressed then it  will be some party the day
Be a mug departs.
Yes In the eyes of the whole world he is  a Mug.
Bob you can fool some of the people some of the time but can't fool all of the people all of the time.
another one for you 
WHEN YOUR WRONG YOU CANNOT BE STRONG.&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('193519','One of millions'); return false;"&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('193519','One of millions','I was there today i stood up to be counted.\r\nOutside the very closed Zimbabwe embassy London.\r\nthe atmosphere was uplifting hope and happiness dancing hand in hand\r\nto the sound of  bongo drums.\r\nIf this is the way Zimbabweans act when they are suppressed then it  will be some party the day\r\nBe a mug departs.\r\nYes In the eyes of the whole world he is  a Mug.\r\nBob you can fool some of the people some of the time but can\'t fool all of the people all of the time.\r\nanother one for you \r\nWHEN YOUR WRONG YOU CANNOT BE STRONG.'); return false;"&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was there today i stood up to be counted.<br />
Outside the very closed Zimbabwe embassy London.<br />
the atmosphere was uplifting hope and happiness dancing hand in hand<br />
to the sound of  bongo drums.<br />
If this is the way Zimbabweans act when they are suppressed then it  will be some party the day<br />
Be a mug departs.<br />
Yes In the eyes of the whole world he is  a Mug.<br />
Bob you can fool some of the people some of the time but can&#8217;t fool all of the people all of the time.<br />
another one for you<br />
WHEN YOUR WRONG YOU CANNOT BE STRONG.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('193519','One of millions'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('193519','One of millions','I was there today i stood up to be counted.\r\nOutside the very closed Zimbabwe embassy London.\r\nthe atmosphere was uplifting hope and happiness dancing hand in hand\r\nto the sound of  bongo drums.\r\nIf this is the way Zimbabweans act when they are suppressed then it  will be some party the day\r\nBe a mug departs.\r\nYes In the eyes of the whole world he is  a Mug.\r\nBob you can fool some of the people some of the time but can\'t fool all of the people all of the time.\r\nanother one for you \r\nWHEN YOUR WRONG YOU CANNOT BE STRONG.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: Sokwanele</title>
		<link>http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/881#comment-193469</link>
		<dc:creator>Sokwanele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/881#comment-193317" rel="nofollow"&gt;Kevin:&lt;/a&gt; I understand exactly what you mean when you say "our own history makes us sensitive to the plight of other countries struggling for freedom". I don't think I could ever be blind to the suffering of others after all we have gone through.

Hope&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('193469','Sokwanele'); return false;"&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('193469','Sokwanele','&#60;a href=\&#34;http:\/\/www.sokwanele.com\/thisiszimbabwe\/archives\/881#comment-193317\&#34; rel=\&#34;nofollow\&#34;&#62;Kevin:&#60;\/a&#62; I understand exactly what you mean when you say \&#34;our own history makes us sensitive to the plight of other countries struggling for freedom\&#34;. I don\'t think I could ever be blind to the suffering of others after all we have gone through.\r\n\r\nHope'); return false;"&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/881#comment-193317" rel="nofollow">Kevin:</a> I understand exactly what you mean when you say &#8220;our own history makes us sensitive to the plight of other countries struggling for freedom&#8221;. I don&#8217;t think I could ever be blind to the suffering of others after all we have gone through.</p>
<p>Hope
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('193469','Sokwanele'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('193469','Sokwanele','&lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/www.sokwanele.com\/thisiszimbabwe\/archives\/881#comment-193317\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Kevin:&lt;\/a&gt; I understand exactly what you mean when you say \&quot;our own history makes us sensitive to the plight of other countries struggling for freedom\&quot;. I don\'t think I could ever be blind to the suffering of others after all we have gone through.\r\n\r\nHope'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My country, Ireland, is small on the world stage, but our own history makes us sensitieve to the plight of other countries struggling for freedom.

The Irish Foreign Minister, Dermot Ahern, has issued the following statement:


Department of Foreign Affairs                Press Release

Press Office, Iveagh House, St Stephenâ€™s Green, Dublin 2.


Minister for Foreign Affairs Condemns Repression of Opposition in Zimbabwe

The Minister for Foreign Affairs, Mr. Dermot Ahern, T.D., has strongly condemned reports of violence and intimidation directed against opposition supporters by security forces in Zimbabwe, following the continuing failure to release final presidential election results in that country.

"We have received credible reports of increased violence and intimidatory tactics being directed by Zimbabwean security forces against supporters of the Movement for Democratic Change and other opposition supporters, as the political crisis in Zimbabwe deepens. This yet again highlights the need for the final results of the presidential election held on 29 March to be released immediately, in order to allay the very real concerns that an attempt is underway to subvert the democratic verdict of the Zimbabwean electorate." 

Noting the important role which Zimbabweâ€™s neighbours can play in helping to resolve the current crisis, Minister Ahern added: "I very much welcome the clear call made by the extraordinary Summit of SADC (Southern Africa Development Community) leaders on 13 April for the final results to be issued expeditiously and urging strict compliance with the rule of law and SADCâ€™s own principles for the conduct of democratic elections.  I equally welcome the similar call which has been made by the Secretary General of the United Nations."

"All  this is a very clear recognition of the major political crisis now unfolding within Zimbabwe and its implications for democratic governance within the broader Southern Africa region. The Government, both nationally and at EU level, intends to continue working closely with our partners in Africa and all those in the wider international community committed to working for the political and economic reforms in Zimbabwe which become more urgent with each passing day."&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('193317','Kevin'); return false;"&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('193317','Kevin','My country, Ireland, is small on the world stage, but our own history makes us sensitieve to the plight of other countries struggling for freedom.\r\n\r\nThe Irish Foreign Minister, Dermot Ahern, has issued the following statement:\r\n\r\n\r\nDepartment of Foreign Affairs                Press Release\r\n\r\nPress Office, Iveagh House, St Stephen&#226;€™s Green, Dublin 2.\r\n\r\n\r\nMinister for Foreign Affairs Condemns Repression of Opposition in Zimbabwe\r\n\r\nThe Minister for Foreign Affairs, Mr. Dermot Ahern, T.D., has strongly condemned reports of violence and intimidation directed against opposition supporters by security forces in Zimbabwe, following the continuing failure to release final presidential election results in that country.\r\n\r\n\&#34;We have received credible reports of increased violence and intimidatory tactics being directed by Zimbabwean security forces against supporters of the Movement for Democratic Change and other opposition supporters, as the political crisis in Zimbabwe deepens. This yet again highlights the need for the final results of the presidential election held on 29 March to be released immediately, in order to allay the very real concerns that an attempt is underway to subvert the democratic verdict of the Zimbabwean electorate.\&#34; \r\n\r\nNoting the important role which Zimbabwe&#226;€™s neighbours can play in helping to resolve the current crisis, Minister Ahern added: \&#34;I very much welcome the clear call made by the extraordinary Summit of SADC (Southern Africa Development Community) leaders on 13 April for the final results to be issued expeditiously and urging strict compliance with the rule of law and SADC&#226;€™s own principles for the conduct of democratic elections.  I equally welcome the similar call which has been made by the Secretary General of the United Nations.\&#34;\r\n\r\n\&#34;All  this is a very clear recognition of the major political crisis now unfolding within Zimbabwe and its implications for democratic governance within the broader Southern Africa region. The Government, both nationally and at EU level, intends to continue working closely with our partners in Africa and all those in the wider international community committed to working for the political and economic reforms in Zimbabwe which become more urgent with each passing day.\&#34;'); return false;"&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My country, Ireland, is small on the world stage, but our own history makes us sensitieve to the plight of other countries struggling for freedom.</p>
<p>The Irish Foreign Minister, Dermot Ahern, has issued the following statement:</p>
<p>Department of Foreign Affairs                Press Release</p>
<p>Press Office, Iveagh House, St Stephenâ€™s Green, Dublin 2.</p>
<p>Minister for Foreign Affairs Condemns Repression of Opposition in Zimbabwe</p>
<p>The Minister for Foreign Affairs, Mr. Dermot Ahern, T.D., has strongly condemned reports of violence and intimidation directed against opposition supporters by security forces in Zimbabwe, following the continuing failure to release final presidential election results in that country.</p>
<p>&#8220;We have received credible reports of increased violence and intimidatory tactics being directed by Zimbabwean security forces against supporters of the Movement for Democratic Change and other opposition supporters, as the political crisis in Zimbabwe deepens. This yet again highlights the need for the final results of the presidential election held on 29 March to be released immediately, in order to allay the very real concerns that an attempt is underway to subvert the democratic verdict of the Zimbabwean electorate.&#8221; </p>
<p>Noting the important role which Zimbabweâ€™s neighbours can play in helping to resolve the current crisis, Minister Ahern added: &#8220;I very much welcome the clear call made by the extraordinary Summit of SADC (Southern Africa Development Community) leaders on 13 April for the final results to be issued expeditiously and urging strict compliance with the rule of law and SADCâ€™s own principles for the conduct of democratic elections.  I equally welcome the similar call which has been made by the Secretary General of the United Nations.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;All  this is a very clear recognition of the major political crisis now unfolding within Zimbabwe and its implications for democratic governance within the broader Southern Africa region. The Government, both nationally and at EU level, intends to continue working closely with our partners in Africa and all those in the wider international community committed to working for the political and economic reforms in Zimbabwe which become more urgent with each passing day.&#8221;
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('193317','Kevin'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('193317','Kevin','My country, Ireland, is small on the world stage, but our own history makes us sensitieve to the plight of other countries struggling for freedom.\r\n\r\nThe Irish Foreign Minister, Dermot Ahern, has issued the following statement:\r\n\r\n\r\nDepartment of Foreign Affairs                Press Release\r\n\r\nPress Office, Iveagh House, St Stephen&acirc;€™s Green, Dublin 2.\r\n\r\n\r\nMinister for Foreign Affairs Condemns Repression of Opposition in Zimbabwe\r\n\r\nThe Minister for Foreign Affairs, Mr. Dermot Ahern, T.D., has strongly condemned reports of violence and intimidation directed against opposition supporters by security forces in Zimbabwe, following the continuing failure to release final presidential election results in that country.\r\n\r\n\&quot;We have received credible reports of increased violence and intimidatory tactics being directed by Zimbabwean security forces against supporters of the Movement for Democratic Change and other opposition supporters, as the political crisis in Zimbabwe deepens. This yet again highlights the need for the final results of the presidential election held on 29 March to be released immediately, in order to allay the very real concerns that an attempt is underway to subvert the democratic verdict of the Zimbabwean electorate.\&quot; \r\n\r\nNoting the important role which Zimbabwe&acirc;€™s neighbours can play in helping to resolve the current crisis, Minister Ahern added: \&quot;I very much welcome the clear call made by the extraordinary Summit of SADC (Southern Africa Development Community) leaders on 13 April for the final results to be issued expeditiously and urging strict compliance with the rule of law and SADC&acirc;€™s own principles for the conduct of democratic elections.  I equally welcome the similar call which has been made by the Secretary General of the United Nations.\&quot;\r\n\r\n\&quot;All  this is a very clear recognition of the major political crisis now unfolding within Zimbabwe and its implications for democratic governance within the broader Southern Africa region. The Government, both nationally and at EU level, intends to continue working closely with our partners in Africa and all those in the wider international community committed to working for the political and economic reforms in Zimbabwe which become more urgent with each passing day.\&quot;'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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