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	<title>Comments on: Action: Stop the An Yue Jiang from delivering Chinese weapons to Zimbabwe</title>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 05:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sokwanele</title>
		<link>http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/885#comment-213484</link>
		<dc:creator>Sokwanele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 09:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi friends, &lt;a href="http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/932" rel="nofollow"&gt;a new article on this story&lt;/a&gt; has been added to the blog today.  

I am going to close comments on this thread and ask if you would mind leaving them on the latest post instead. It's very difficult to browse through all these comments on slower connections.

May I ask you to summarise, in one comment on the new thread, the main points of any ongoing conversations here so everything is consolidated again. 

Many thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi friends, <a href="http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/932" rel="nofollow">a new article on this story</a> has been added to the blog today.  </p>
<p>I am going to close comments on this thread and ask if you would mind leaving them on the latest post instead. It&#8217;s very difficult to browse through all these comments on slower connections.</p>
<p>May I ask you to summarise, in one comment on the new thread, the main points of any ongoing conversations here so everything is consolidated again. </p>
<p>Many thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: js</title>
		<link>http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/885#comment-211592</link>
		<dc:creator>js</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>see also new comments on 
http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/924</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>see also new comments on<br />
<a href="http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/924" rel="nofollow">http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/924</a></p>
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		<title>By: js</title>
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		<dc:creator>js</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>see the thread here for more discussion re: Avient Aviation, where the managing director of the company has issued a denial of involvement. This is the same director who, according to the Sunday Times, is/was being investigated for war crimes.

http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/910</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>see the thread here for more discussion re: Avient Aviation, where the managing director of the company has issued a denial of involvement. This is the same director who, according to the Sunday Times, is/was being investigated for war crimes.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/910" rel="nofollow">http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/910</a></p>
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		<title>By: Durbs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Durbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 20:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Air cargo carrier perhaps Avient Aviation?

http://www.fingaz.co.zw/story.aspx?stid=2660

"An airlift would require at least two flights on the Russian-made cargo plane, an Illyushin II-76, which has a payload of 44 tonnes.
The Air Force of Zimbabwe has an Illyushin, but the cost could be prohibitive.
Military officials have also discussed the possibility of hiring a private operator, Avient Aviation, a British cargo charter airline that has previously flown into Zimbabwe. However, this is unlikely, a source said."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Air cargo carrier perhaps Avient Aviation?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fingaz.co.zw/story.aspx?stid=2660" rel="nofollow">http://www.fingaz.co.zw/story.aspx?stid=2660</a></p>
<p>&#8220;An airlift would require at least two flights on the Russian-made cargo plane, an Illyushin II-76, which has a payload of 44 tonnes.<br />
The Air Force of Zimbabwe has an Illyushin, but the cost could be prohibitive.<br />
Military officials have also discussed the possibility of hiring a private operator, Avient Aviation, a British cargo charter airline that has previously flown into Zimbabwe. However, this is unlikely, a source said.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: js</title>
		<link>http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/885#comment-210457</link>
		<dc:creator>js</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 19:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cc: please post URL of the malawi thread here. can't find it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cc: please post URL of the malawi thread here. can&#8217;t find it.</p>
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		<title>By: js</title>
		<link>http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/885#comment-210376</link>
		<dc:creator>js</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good picture of the ship of shame, to add to the gallery
http://gcaptain.com/maritime/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/ship-of-shame.jpg

and the New York Times story that the above text points to is at:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/27/world/africa/27zimbabwe.html
BUT that is two days old now.

Have made a few postings now on plane spotters networks in hopes they might be able to respond.

Does this mean that we know for a fact the ship has docked at Luanda, not Lobito??

Hopefully the local dockers have wisened up and the S.A. folks have gotten the dangerous goods documentation to them by now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good picture of the ship of shame, to add to the gallery<br />
<a href="http://gcaptain.com/maritime/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/ship-of-shame.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://gcaptain.com/maritime/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/ship-of-shame.jpg</a></p>
<p>and the New York Times story that the above text points to is at:<br />
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/27/world/africa/27zimbabwe.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/27/world/africa/27zimbabwe.html</a><br />
BUT that is two days old now.</p>
<p>Have made a few postings now on plane spotters networks in hopes they might be able to respond.</p>
<p>Does this mean that we know for a fact the ship has docked at Luanda, not Lobito??</p>
<p>Hopefully the local dockers have wisened up and the S.A. folks have gotten the dangerous goods documentation to them by now!</p>
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		<title>By: CC</title>
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		<dc:creator>CC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK I've posted progress, on the Malawi thread (the newest thread) thoughts appreciated
We need more emails to go out to Angolan Press and unions, my temporary Zim account now thinks I'm a spammer and hasn't let many of my emails through!! (Umm, any advice on how to avoid this in the future?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK I&#8217;ve posted progress, on the Malawi thread (the newest thread) thoughts appreciated<br />
We need more emails to go out to Angolan Press and unions, my temporary Zim account now thinks I&#8217;m a spammer and hasn&#8217;t let many of my emails through!! (Umm, any advice on how to avoid this in the future?)</p>
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		<title>By: Miko</title>
		<link>http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/885#comment-210273</link>
		<dc:creator>Miko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>scotchcart and CC -- I took your suggestion and called the dockworkers union that I could find, that is the International Longshoreman and Warehouse Union (ILWU) in Sand Francisco. 

It was an opportunity to THANK DOCKWORKERS for standing up for what's right. They immediately picked up the call and gave me 10 minutes. 

The ILWU gave all the credit to the South African dockworkers. I made them aware of Malawi's devious efforts, and let them know that the longshoremen will be remembered as those who put the WAY OUT in Robert Mugabe Way. It did not have a direct effect on today's situation, yet making calls is one way to keep the issue alive while in time finding the right people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>scotchcart and CC &#8212; I took your suggestion and called the dockworkers union that I could find, that is the International Longshoreman and Warehouse Union (ILWU) in Sand Francisco. </p>
<p>It was an opportunity to THANK DOCKWORKERS for standing up for what&#8217;s right. They immediately picked up the call and gave me 10 minutes. </p>
<p>The ILWU gave all the credit to the South African dockworkers. I made them aware of Malawi&#8217;s devious efforts, and let them know that the longshoremen will be remembered as those who put the WAY OUT in Robert Mugabe Way. It did not have a direct effect on today&#8217;s situation, yet making calls is one way to keep the issue alive while in time finding the right people.</p>
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		<title>By: js</title>
		<link>http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/885#comment-210256</link>
		<dc:creator>js</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CC: we're all grateful that you're portugese capable. ;)  Please let us know anything that you can find out on the issue from portugese sources and/or press.

Do we have any eyes on the ground -- e.g. at the port where supposedly only non-Zim goods are being unloaded? At the airport, on the lookout for large cargo plane.  

With plane spotters, who are really good at providing info on what registration the purported cargo plane will be...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CC: we&#8217;re all grateful that you&#8217;re portugese capable. <img src='http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  Please let us know anything that you can find out on the issue from portugese sources and/or press.</p>
<p>Do we have any eyes on the ground &#8212; e.g. at the port where supposedly only non-Zim goods are being unloaded? At the airport, on the lookout for large cargo plane.  </p>
<p>With plane spotters, who are really good at providing info on what registration the purported cargo plane will be&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: scotchcart</title>
		<link>http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/885#comment-210237</link>
		<dc:creator>scotchcart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CC if you can afford it, pick up the phone and call.  Offices are probably shut now - 6pm there I think.

I introduced myself as a blogger.  I gave my real name and number too.  I just asked if they could confirm what was in the news - and told them what was in the news.

In this case, you would be thanking the IFTW and the local union for everything they have done.  It means so much to us and the world is admiring their courage and integrity.  You are phoning to so say thank you and to ask - are they able confirm the weapons have left and if there is some way of confirming to the world.  A picture. Something?  Do they have any ideas?

Sometimes they can't do anything but it starts the conversation and ideas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CC if you can afford it, pick up the phone and call.  Offices are probably shut now - 6pm there I think.</p>
<p>I introduced myself as a blogger.  I gave my real name and number too.  I just asked if they could confirm what was in the news - and told them what was in the news.</p>
<p>In this case, you would be thanking the IFTW and the local union for everything they have done.  It means so much to us and the world is admiring their courage and integrity.  You are phoning to so say thank you and to ask - are they able confirm the weapons have left and if there is some way of confirming to the world.  A picture. Something?  Do they have any ideas?</p>
<p>Sometimes they can&#8217;t do anything but it starts the conversation and ideas.</p>
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		<title>By: Miko</title>
		<link>http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/885#comment-210235</link>
		<dc:creator>Miko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CC -- looks about right, a good plan. m</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CC &#8212; looks about right, a good plan. m</p>
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		<title>By: CC</title>
		<link>http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/885#comment-210189</link>
		<dc:creator>CC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm sorry I mean shipment not ship...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry I mean shipment not ship&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Durbs</title>
		<link>http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/885#comment-210185</link>
		<dc:creator>Durbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I came across this report, "The Arms Fixers", which someone may find helpful.

For full report see:  http://www.nisat.org/publications/armsfixers/Preface.html

"This study seeks to cast light on some recent cases of arms brokering and trafficking via third countries to regions of violent conflict and serious human rights abuse. We want to describe the activities of arms brokers and trafficking or transport agents (also known as shipping agents or brokers) and their associated sub-contractors, in order to examine what measures governments can take to prevent such activities from contributing to serious violations of international law. We also propose an agenda for change which includes a package of interdependent recommendations for priority action by governments."

If Cosco is acting as an arms trafficking agent in this case, the press may be happy to help out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came across this report, &#8220;The Arms Fixers&#8221;, which someone may find helpful.</p>
<p>For full report see:  <a href="http://www.nisat.org/publications/armsfixers/Preface.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nisat.org/publications/armsfixers/Preface.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;This study seeks to cast light on some recent cases of arms brokering and trafficking via third countries to regions of violent conflict and serious human rights abuse. We want to describe the activities of arms brokers and trafficking or transport agents (also known as shipping agents or brokers) and their associated sub-contractors, in order to examine what measures governments can take to prevent such activities from contributing to serious violations of international law. We also propose an agenda for change which includes a package of interdependent recommendations for priority action by governments.&#8221;</p>
<p>If Cosco is acting as an arms trafficking agent in this case, the press may be happy to help out.</p>
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		<title>By: CC</title>
		<link>http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/885#comment-210157</link>
		<dc:creator>CC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can I be of service? Portuguese crew on standby :) 
- hmm we need to
a) phone Angola unions and just ask if they know anything further about the directions of this boat. 
b) Draft emails to Angola alerting to the importance of the ship's destination after leaving Angola and further information on this.

Sound about right?
*Feedback and advice on action appreciated right away as I'm preparing to do this now.* 

Alright, am on the case. 

[Oh yes, also, any Angolan or European Portuguesers your help is always appreciated]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can I be of service? Portuguese crew on standby <img src='http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
- hmm we need to<br />
a) phone Angola unions and just ask if they know anything further about the directions of this boat.<br />
b) Draft emails to Angola alerting to the importance of the ship&#8217;s destination after leaving Angola and further information on this.</p>
<p>Sound about right?<br />
*Feedback and advice on action appreciated right away as I&#8217;m preparing to do this now.* </p>
<p>Alright, am on the case. </p>
<p>[Oh yes, also, any Angolan or European Portuguesers your help is always appreciated]</p>
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		<title>By: js</title>
		<link>http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/885#comment-210084</link>
		<dc:creator>js</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Sokwanele!

I fear that the shipment is now on its way... I also fear that we're a long way behind now as we may not have many portugese speakers/writers here to help us. I know my portugese is non-existent :)

It looks like the international transport workers federeation has dropped the story (last posting: 24 Apr). Does anyone have any connections with airport workers in Angola?  

Does anyone have capacity to confirm the netherlands-based air cargo company so we can try to get response from them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Sokwanele!</p>
<p>I fear that the shipment is now on its way&#8230; I also fear that we&#8217;re a long way behind now as we may not have many portugese speakers/writers here to help us. I know my portugese is non-existent <img src='http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>It looks like the international transport workers federeation has dropped the story (last posting: 24 Apr). Does anyone have any connections with airport workers in Angola?  </p>
<p>Does anyone have capacity to confirm the netherlands-based air cargo company so we can try to get response from them?</p>
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		<title>By: Sokwanele</title>
		<link>http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/885#comment-210031</link>
		<dc:creator>Sokwanele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently plans are afoot to get to Zim via Malawi - posted on the front page today. My apologies I should have kept this post updated too.

The link is &lt;a href="http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/924" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently plans are afoot to get to Zim via Malawi - posted on the front page today. My apologies I should have kept this post updated too.</p>
<p>The link is <a href="http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/924" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: js</title>
		<link>http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/885#comment-210014</link>
		<dc:creator>js</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BM: if you're awake now, where *is* the latest posting?

i've heard that the arms were unloaded over the weekend &#38; that a netherlands-based air cargo company was contracted to fly the shipment all in one go to zim using one of its larger cargo planes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BM: if you&#8217;re awake now, where *is* the latest posting?</p>
<p>i&#8217;ve heard that the arms were unloaded over the weekend &amp; that a netherlands-based air cargo company was contracted to fly the shipment all in one go to zim using one of its larger cargo planes.</p>
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		<title>By: BM</title>
		<link>http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/885#comment-209949</link>
		<dc:creator>BM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check the new posting on this blog about new Malawi involvement... 29 April ... action needed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check the new posting on this blog about new Malawi involvement&#8230; 29 April &#8230; action needed.</p>
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		<title>By: Tara</title>
		<link>http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/885#comment-209334</link>
		<dc:creator>Tara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Bruno - Thanks for the info

This doesn't sound right to me. Don't they have to declare the contents before offloading? No information at all regarding the contents of the cargo sounds too suspicious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bruno - Thanks for the info</p>
<p>This doesn&#8217;t sound right to me. Don&#8217;t they have to declare the contents before offloading? No information at all regarding the contents of the cargo sounds too suspicious.</p>
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		<title>By: Global Voices Online &#187; Zimbabwe: Post-election violence on the rise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Global Voices Online &#187; Zimbabwe: Post-election violence on the rise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 12:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Stop the An Yue Jiang from delivering Chinese weapons to Zimbabwe. [...]</description>
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