josephine

Zambia

Which black people do you know that are benefiting from the so called land distribution today?

I think if you are honest, the Zanu PF bunch have failed the people of Zimbabwe because they cannot control their greed…simple….black, white, green or blue, greed is greed and that is the problem with Zanu PF, I have moved in their circles and they DO NOT CARE FOR THE PEOPLE!!!!!

Mugabe and Zanu PF have lied to the people of Zimbabwe, only to fill and feed their bellies…

To you, who all are offended by his comments - I think you’ve missed the bus.

He is clearly a common village wag - a tongue-in-cheek satirist. Read what he writes with an optimistic outlook - how he describes it all is exactly as Mugabe would have us believe. Hence it’s of course a joke!

Well written Kevin. We’re not giving you the credit you deserve for the subtle humour that you display in your comment that so obviously comes from great intelligence.

Yes we may have anger for what went before, the slave trade, Ian smith and all that went before. etc etc but going around in circles like this will not change it or gain compensation for those long dead.

We owe it our children, particularly our Zimbabwean children to MOVE ON and try and create a world with that sort of horror is NEVER REPEATED! AND where the sort of mindless blood shed that our country endured for so long and is still enduring STOPS and is never REPEATED AGAIN.

You talk about the slaves…. they are gone, their suffering is over and their descendents are making huge strides forward and making their mark on the world. Ian Smith is dead, those that followed him in life have moved on and care nothing for Zimbabwe and its people now. The black population now has the land back.

The nation has now the power to vote in an environment of freedom and peace. Which it did. The nation, freely without intimidation, voiced its opinion.

But our people in Zimbabwe NOW are suffering the agonies of the damned just for voting for a change of government. These ordinary black Zimbabweans are not being terrorised by Westerners, or even whites, they are being terrorised by black Zimbabweans. What justification is there for this! Please tell me.

Charlie you say a lot about Britain, you even mention Iraq and Bush. Can we ask you about the Chinese? Zimbabwe’s allies and trading partners - lets look at Tibet, was their action there any different to Bush in Iraq? Yet you as a patriotic Zimbabwean cannot discern their pieces of silver.

I agree we must be pragmatic about the world around us - EAST as well as west and understand everything comes with a price BUT
What has Iraq got to do with children being murdered in Karoi, because their parents choose to support a political movement different to the government. Come on? Who will save OUR People when we cannot even take them to hospital without being threatened and killed ourselves.

I want my kids to stand in lines to vote in peace and fairness where they know their voice will be respected, win or lose, and where they need not fear that some mindless beast will come and beat them for saying their piece.

Sorry Charlie, I hear your bitterness but you MUST LOOK TO THE FUTURE. This world is changing and we cannot look at the colour of our skin or their skin. We have to look at people for who they are, what their motivations are etc.

You cannot successfully drive a car forward if you are constantly looking in the rear view mirror.

The only reason my government is “suddenly” interested in Zimbabwean affairs is probably because trade partner China has been publicly exposed as a dirty arms trader. “Suddenly” it’s impossible to ignore Mugabe’s horrible regime.

Thank God another president will be along shortly to sort out the mess - for both our countries!

It is not legitimate. It lost the election and is refusing to transfer power as it should according to the law.

Probably a ZANU-PF bigwig in disguise.

I have read some rather interesting posts here, some having less merits than others but yours literally takes the proverbial cake.
Seriously, get some professional help because you sound like you actually beleive your own conspiracy theory..

*Britain is responsible for everything wrong in Zimbabwe,
* Sanctions have destroyed the economy,
* The opposition are out to overthrow a legitimate regime,
* The opposotion are waging terror aginst innocent Zanu PF people,
etc etc etc

It’s all part of the same propoganda effort, and I bet Sokwanele published KH because it it makes that point.

Zanu supporters will read all the blogs like this and try to create mayhem.

I am quite sure that had Mugabe ruled with integrity and done what was best for his country - and not his own interests - this terrible situation now facing Zimbabwe would not have arisen.

That country needs help to be rebuilt - not further destroyed - and thanks should be given to all prepared to help in that endeavour. I pity those with no compassion.

There is the principle of non refoulement which is protected in terms of the South African Refugees Act and it basically protects people from being sent back to the place they came from where to do so would be to place them in the hands of their persecutors. This can be applied in this situation and you can get an interdict to prevent their deportation.

Moreover, in terms of the Refugees Act asylum seekers should not be penalised for their unlawful entry into a country. This is also a basis on which you may seek to support the interdict.

The Legal Resources Centre has a Refugee and Asylum Seeker Project. The lead attorney (as far as I know) on these cases is William Kerfoot and you can contact him on this number (021) 481-3000 because it is the weekend you will get a message which should give you an emergency number to call. You may also contact
Janet love on (011) 836-9831, 838-6601, 403-0902 she works at the National Office in Joberg.

Another option is Wits Law Clinic and speak with Abeda Bhamjee bhamjeea@law.wits.ac.za their telephone number is +27 11 717 8562

I will also add these to your database.

I hope this works out for the guys because as you say it is unthinkable and also i think in violation of international and south african national law to deport these guys

There seems to be an depressing amount of lost rebels looking for a cause commenting on this blog, or using this forum as a stage to denigrate their perceived enemies in other issues. I apologise for submitting terse retaliatory comments in response, instead of concentrating on the issue at hand. Like many regulars to this site, we have ties with Zimbabwe, and especially if you have family there the situation is especially worrying. Our interest lies in the fate of Zimbabwe first and foremost, and we avidly search all news outlets for information to either soothe or be forewarned of our worst fears becoming reality. To have repressed individuals contributing their intellectual meanderings or amateurish journalistic leanings is nothing short of insulting, not just to us regulars, but also to the people of Zimbabwe. The errant bloggers effectively sideline the plight of Zimbabweans as no more than case scenarios and vehicles for their egotistical theorising.

Notwithstanding the above, I commend you for publishing comments from Kevin Hughes, who aptly illustrates a comment made by Churchill - ‘[He] looks at foreign affairs through the wrong end of a municipal drainpipe.’

Now do you see the alligators?

Are you saying that the person leading Sokwanele was previously white? Have you heard the one about alligators in the sewers of LA?