Comments on: Truth and Justice Coalition formed by the Institute for a Democratic Alternative for Zimbabwe (IDAZIM) http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/915 This is Zimbabwe is Sokwanele's pro-democracy activist blog. It provides grassroots news and views from Zimbabwe. Wed, 08 Feb 2012 04:20:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Global Voices Online » Zimbabwe: Truth and Justice Coalition http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/915/comment-page-1#comment-209248 Global Voices Online » Zimbabwe: Truth and Justice Coalition Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:28:45 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=915#comment-209248 [...] is Truth and Justice Coalition in Zimbabwe: “The Institute for a Democratic Alternative for Zimbabwe (IDAZIM) has initiated, [...]<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('209248','Global Voices Online » Zimbabwe: Truth and Justice Coalition'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('209248','Global Voices Online » Zimbabwe: Truth and Justice Coalition','[...] is Truth and Justice Coalition in Zimbabwe: “The Institute for a Democratic Alternative for Zimbabwe (IDAZIM) has initiated, [...]'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> [...] is Truth and Justice Coalition in Zimbabwe: “The Institute for a Democratic Alternative for Zimbabwe (IDAZIM) has initiated, [...]
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]]> By: True Grit http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/915/comment-page-1#comment-208108 True Grit Sun, 27 Apr 2008 21:15:50 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=915#comment-208108 The Mugabe regime has an ambivalent approach towards the law. But if there is one thing that worries Mugabe now more than anything, it is the lack of legitimacy that he now faces. Although keen to claim legality, however, the interest is not in substance or values, but in the form and structure of laws. Why do such regimes insist on legality? Why do they worry about legitimacy? It is because even a thief eventually craves to be recognised as the legal and legitimate owner of the property he has stolen. It is because it has failed to honour its part of the 'social contract'and underlying values as laid down in the Constitution that the Mugabe regime is now facing a crisis of legitimacy.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('208108','True Grit'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('208108','True Grit','The Mugabe regime has an ambivalent approach towards the law. But if there is one thing that worries Mugabe now more than anything, it is the lack of legitimacy that he now faces. \r\n\r\nAlthough keen to claim legality, however, the interest is not in substance or values, but in the form and structure of laws. Why do such regimes insist on legality? Why do they worry about legitimacy? It is because even a thief eventually craves to be recognised as the legal and legitimate owner of the property he has stolen. It is because it has failed to honour its part of the \'social contract\'and underlying values as laid down in the Constitution that the Mugabe regime is now facing a crisis of legitimacy.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> The Mugabe regime has an ambivalent approach towards the law. But if there is one thing that worries Mugabe now more than anything, it is the lack of legitimacy that he now faces.

Although keen to claim legality, however, the interest is not in substance or values, but in the form and structure of laws. Why do such regimes insist on legality? Why do they worry about legitimacy? It is because even a thief eventually craves to be recognised as the legal and legitimate owner of the property he has stolen. It is because it has failed to honour its part of the ‘social contract’and underlying values as laid down in the Constitution that the Mugabe regime is now facing a crisis of legitimacy.

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]]> By: from Oz http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/915/comment-page-1#comment-207800 from Oz Sun, 27 Apr 2008 13:28:42 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=915#comment-207800 We have just said sorry to the indigineous people of Australia. It is is perceived here as a major turning point but much more clearly needs to be done. I will die before Mugabe says sorry. The children die, the children die waiting for drugs to save them which we can buy over the counter anywhere, anytime. Robert Mugabe now joins a list of men whom the world will for ever know as evil. That is his legacy.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('207800','from Oz'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('207800','from Oz','We have just said sorry to the indigineous people of Australia. It is is perceived here as a major turning point but much more clearly needs to be done. I will die before Mugabe says sorry. The children die, the children die waiting for drugs to save them which we can buy over the counter anywhere, anytime. Robert Mugabe now joins a list of men whom the world will for ever know as evil. That is his legacy.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> We have just said sorry to the indigineous people of Australia. It is is perceived here as a major turning point but much more clearly needs to be done. I will die before Mugabe says sorry. The children die, the children die waiting for drugs to save them which we can buy over the counter anywhere, anytime. Robert Mugabe now joins a list of men whom the world will for ever know as evil. That is his legacy.
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]]> By: exbulawayo http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/915/comment-page-1#comment-207764 exbulawayo Sun, 27 Apr 2008 12:21:54 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=915#comment-207764 In short, get all the truth, find the justice system that will work, and start to build and reconcile the nation.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('207764','exbulawayo'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('207764','exbulawayo','In short, get all the truth, find the justice system that will work, and start to build and reconcile the nation.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> In short, get all the truth, find the justice system that will work, and start to build and reconcile the nation.
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]]> By: Dave http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/915/comment-page-1#comment-207733 Dave Sun, 27 Apr 2008 11:20:13 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=915#comment-207733 It worked in SA but I think the name should reflect all of your aims. Why not call it the Truth, Justice AND RECONCILIATION Coalition. Good Luck.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('207733','Dave'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('207733','Dave','It worked in SA but I think the name should reflect all of your aims. Why not call it the Truth, Justice AND RECONCILIATION Coalition.\r\n\r\nGood Luck.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> It worked in SA but I think the name should reflect all of your aims. Why not call it the Truth, Justice AND RECONCILIATION Coalition.

Good Luck.

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]]> By: mama http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/915/comment-page-1#comment-207727 mama Sun, 27 Apr 2008 11:11:49 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=915#comment-207727 Guys the UN are still in Tanzania over Rwanda and they have only convicted a few and the lawyers there sit in big fat houses get big fat salaries and their wheels of justice roll by slower than a snail. Whilst I commend the identification of these men and women far better to spend the money on helping the victims get over their traumas....help them to rebuild their lives with the money these guys accumulated illegally. Sue them in civil courts.......much better......<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('207727','mama'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('207727','mama','Guys the UN are still in Tanzania over Rwanda and they have only convicted a few and the lawyers there sit in big fat houses get big fat salaries and their wheels of justice roll by slower than a snail. Whilst I commend the identification of these men and women far better to spend the money on helping the victims get over their traumas....help them to rebuild their lives with the money these guys accumulated illegally. Sue them in civil courts.......much better......'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> Guys the UN are still in Tanzania over Rwanda and they have only convicted a few and the lawyers there sit in big fat houses get big fat salaries and their wheels of justice roll by slower than a snail. Whilst I commend the identification of these men and women far better to spend the money on helping the victims get over their traumas….help them to rebuild their lives with the money these guys accumulated illegally. Sue them in civil courts…….much better……
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]]> By: Sally D http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/915/comment-page-1#comment-207644 Sally D Sun, 27 Apr 2008 09:37:29 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=915#comment-207644 Fantastic news. This has to happen. It will take time, funds and organisation - for instance, to train interpreters and people to take statements, not easy from traumatised people, that can stand up to cross examination. Something else I have long hoped for: a United Nations forensic investigation similar to the ones they led in Rwanda and former Yugoslavia, to investigate the older genocide in Matabeleland and also this fresh one that is underway. Let the bones and murdered remains of innocents like little Brighton tell their stories and then be reburied with due ceremony and honour.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('207644','Sally D'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('207644','Sally D','Fantastic news. This has to happen. It will take time, funds and organisation - for instance, to train interpreters and people to take statements, not easy from traumatised people, that can stand up to cross examination. \r\n\r\nSomething else I have long hoped for: a United Nations forensic investigation similar to the ones they led in Rwanda and former Yugoslavia, to investigate the older genocide in Matabeleland and also this fresh one that is underway. Let the bones and murdered remains of innocents like little Brighton tell their stories and then be reburied with due ceremony and honour.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> Fantastic news. This has to happen. It will take time, funds and organisation – for instance, to train interpreters and people to take statements, not easy from traumatised people, that can stand up to cross examination.

Something else I have long hoped for: a United Nations forensic investigation similar to the ones they led in Rwanda and former Yugoslavia, to investigate the older genocide in Matabeleland and also this fresh one that is underway. Let the bones and murdered remains of innocents like little Brighton tell their stories and then be reburied with due ceremony and honour.

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