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		<title>By: Global Voices aminÂ´ny teny malagasy &#187; Zimbaboe : Valin&#8217;ny fifidianana filoham-pirenena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Global Voices aminÂ´ny teny malagasy &#187; Zimbaboe : Valin&#8217;ny fifidianana filoham-pirenena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 12:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] no mitatitra ao amin&#39;ny This is Zimbabwe ny valiny ofisialy tamin&#39;ny fifidianana filoham-pirenena any Zimbaboe : Here are the total counts per presidential candidate, according to The Herald. We [...]
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		<title>By: scotchcart</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 13:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice work Charles.
Jim, I think you are agreeing - we don&#039;t have to wait for anyone and small solutions go a long way.
Charles, I have a google app engine account which I have been reserving in the hope we can use it for a Zimbabwe mashup.  Anything listed there will get a large amount of publicity.
How interested are you in IT?  If you would like to collaborate, we could get your map up there and presumably make provision to feed in new data quickly as it comes in.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;217082&#039;,&#039;scotchcart&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;217082&#039;,&#039;scotchcart&#039;,&#039;Nice work Charles.\r\nJim, I think you are agreeing - we don\&#039;t have to wait for anyone and small solutions go a long way.\r\nCharles, I have a google app engine account which I have been reserving in the hope we can use it for a Zimbabwe mashup.  Anything listed there will get a large amount of publicity.\r\nHow interested are you in IT?  If you would like to collaborate, we could get your map up there and presumably make provision to feed in new data quickly as it comes in.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice work Charles.<br />
Jim, I think you are agreeing &#8211; we don&#8217;t have to wait for anyone and small solutions go a long way.<br />
Charles, I have a google app engine account which I have been reserving in the hope we can use it for a Zimbabwe mashup.  Anything listed there will get a large amount of publicity.<br />
How interested are you in IT?  If you would like to collaborate, we could get your map up there and presumably make provision to feed in new data quickly as it comes in.
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 13:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IT systems?...all you need is petrol, people, a sharp pencil and a notepad to write down the scores on the doors...unfortunately there isn&#039;t much petrol in the country.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;217039&#039;,&#039;Jim&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;217039&#039;,&#039;Jim&#039;,&#039;IT systems?...all you need is petrol, people, a sharp pencil and a notepad to write down the scores on the doors...unfortunately there isn\&#039;t much petrol in the country.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IT systems?&#8230;all you need is petrol, people, a sharp pencil and a notepad to write down the scores on the doors&#8230;unfortunately there isn&#8217;t much petrol in the country.
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		<title>By: Charles Worringham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Worringham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 12:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve put the parliamentary results on Google Earth as bar graphs for each constituency -Â  I hope some people will find this useful &#8211; and can benchmark any constituency results for the presidential poll (and any run-off) against it. Visit <a href="http://cjw.id.au/WordPress" rel="nofollow">http://cjw.id.au/WordPress</a> to view it.<br />
Please let me know about any mistakes and I&#8217;ll try to correct them &#8211; I think I had the Gokwe constituencies a bit mixed up but could not find a map of them.Â  It&#8217;s just another way to inform people.
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		<title>By: Tara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 12:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Scotchcart

Well said. I especially like the bit about the IT systems. Communications &quot;on the ground&quot; is vital, in my opinion. 
&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;216978&#039;,&#039;Tara&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;216978&#039;,&#039;Tara&#039;,&#039;@Scotchcart\r\n\r\nWell said. I especially like the bit about the IT systems. Communications \&quot;on the ground\&quot; is vital, in my opinion. \r\n&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>Well said. I especially like the bit about the IT systems. Communications &#8220;on the ground&#8221; is vital, in my opinion. </p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 12:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ exbulawayo</p>
<p>Someone on this site wrote&#8230;.&#8221;<em>Partly we are â€˜passive aggressiveâ€™ &#8211; we believe if we cry loudly enough, daddy will give in to our demands &#8211; and we all know who daddy is. Eh? And we donâ€™t really trust our â€˜big brotherâ€™ to fill daddy â€™s shoes? Ney?&#8221;</em></p>
<p>I wont say who but it kinda sums it up&#8230;these ZANU /JUNTA are Maoists, not democrats&#8230;they dont view this struggle like its Selma Alabama, and we shall overcome means anything&#8230;they see it like 1989 Tiananmen Square..On Thursday, <em>The Zimbabwean</em> reported that the JOC (a military body) was directing the ZANU operation, headed by the same men that headed Ghukurahundi&#8230;</p>
<p>This isnt a game&#8230;yet some do half the job and crow they see the finish line. [<em>... content deleted</em>]
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		<title>By: exbulawayo</title>
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		<dc:creator>exbulawayo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 11:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please can we have outside intervention to step in and haveÂ the complete results on black and white ? The results must be known now and the old man needs to go, we want to come back and rebuild what he broke down for our children&#8217;s sake. There is no time to wait anymore, it is getting worse by the day and why all those killings? All just to cling to a very sick form of power, looking after a very brainwashed minority.Â 
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		<title>By: scotchcart</title>
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		<dc:creator>scotchcart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 10:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee that was long.Â  When the comment box is small, it is hard to see the whole post and it gets longer and longer.Â  Sorry.
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		<title>By: scotchcart</title>
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		<dc:creator>scotchcart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 10:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ chinja,<br />
Rigid planning doesn&#8217;t work in conflict situations &#8211; for two reasons &#8211; the other guys are motivated to win too; and they can do anything.<br />
We have to do two things to win:<br />
a) Always ensure that we have energy and morale to spare.Â  The side that can bring energy and enthusiasm when the other side is tired is the side that wins.<br />
b) Be prepared to replan, replan, replan.Â  In the military they say that no plan survives meeting the enemy.Â  So why plan?Â  It is not the plan but the planning.Â  When we plan, we learn about our options so that we can think faster in heat of battle.<br />
I have been impressed by MRT so far.Â  He is articulate and consistent in his message.Â  He has been doing this a long time and he doesn&#8217;t waver.Â  For me he qualifies as a leader on three counts:<br />
He knows where he wants to go &#8211; to finish the job of liberation and have a democratic Zimbabwe.<br />
He knows how are we going to get there &#8211; democratically &#8211; we are going to fight the way we mean to live.Â  One adult one vote.<br />
Does he believe in the people of Zimbabwe &#8211; yes he does.Â  The other side does not believe that our opinions matter &#8211; we are told we cannot think for ourselves!Â  Each small voice matters &#8211; that is the nature of liberation.Â  Each ambuya kumusha, every sekuru with 15 grandchildren to look after, each grandchild particularly when they turn 18, each voice matters.Â Â  That is what this struggle is about.<br />
Everything thereafter is a detail.Â  And actually it will become easier.Â  With internet, it hard for anyone to &#8216;cover up&#8217;.Â  We will be able to insist on greater transparency than we dreamed was possible in 1980.<br />
Does Morgan have to do it all alone?Â  No he doesn&#8217;t.Â  He just has to &#8216;chair &#8216; the process.Â  The rest of us are capable of setting up IT systems that show us and the world exactly what is happening where.Â  The 100 dollar laptop scheme and some mobile phones and life changes very fast!!Â  The ten year olds will do it!<br />
Will that feed people?Â  Yes, it will.Â  Because people feed themselves.Â  They aren&#8217;t babes-in-arms.Â  All they need is the freedom to get on with their lives.<br />
<em>Votes that are respected.</em><br />
<em>A stable currency</em>.Â  <em><br />
</em><br />
<em>Transparent government and courts</em>.<br />
After that, the people do it all.Â  We trade, we study, we teach &#8211; we never get our dinner from charity &#8211; we get it from self-interest of the butcher and baker.Â  Zimbabweans understand that &#8211; we are not children.<br />
And do you know the best thing that we have achieved so far.Â  Is that the voice of Zimbabweans do count!Â  You try getting overbearing in a Zimbabwean workplace.Â  People will go very quiet.Â  Someone may even come to you and say something politely.Â  People in Zimbabwe like to discuss and then act &#8211; in that order.<br />
And does that work?Â  How many times have I had that discussion?!!! Yes it does.Â  Companies pay big consultants big fees of thousands of pounds a day to show them how to consult!! Ha ha.Â  How to have a <em>dare!</em><br />
We must continue having our modern-day <em>dare</em> and then that is our FIRST export product.Â  We replace tobacco with wisdom.Â  Yeah?<br />
We bring tourists to Zimbabwe not to see a lion &#8211; thought they can see that too &#8211; but to talk to a grandfather who raises 15 grand children.Â  To experience bravery, courage and resilience.Â  These attributes are short in other places.Â  People&#8217;s souls are as dry as the vlei in Matabeleland in October and they want the rain of our courage to bring out the green grass in their hearts.<br />
We will go to other countries and teach them about democracy.Â Â  To show people how to sit down and talk and to come to conclusion they can all live with.<br />
To stay true to real wisdom when life is bad.Â  That is what it is all about.<br />
Frankly, we have to show the old man that we have benefited from Independence.Â  We are free.Â  We are free to make up our own minds, to speak with our own voices, to consult each other, and to decide the way forward that we will try for 1 day, ten days, 3 months, I year, 5 years.Â  Always listening though because we could be wrong, and maybe we should change directions.Â  That balance is what we are good at.<br />
Â <br />
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<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('216907','scotchcart'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('216907','scotchcart','@ chinja,\r\nRigid planning doesn\'t work in conflict situations - for two reasons - the other guys are motivated to win too; and they can do anything.\r\nWe have to do two things to win:\r\na) Always ensure that we have energy and morale to spare.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; The side that can bring energy and enthusiasm when the other side is tired is the side that wins.\r\nb) Be prepared to replan, replan, replan.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; In the military they say that no plan survives meeting the enemy.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; So why plan?&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; It is not the plan but the planning.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; When we plan, we learn about our options so that we can think faster in heat of battle.\r\nI have been impressed by MRT so far.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; He is articulate and consistent in his message.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; He has been doing this a long time and he doesn\'t waver.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; For me he qualifies as a leader on three counts:\r\nHe knows where he wants to go - to finish the job of liberation and have a democratic Zimbabwe.\r\nHe knows how are we going to get there - democratically - we are going to fight the way we mean to live.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; One adult one vote.\r\nDoes he believe in the people of Zimbabwe - yes he does.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; The other side does not believe that our opinions matter - we are told we cannot think for ourselves!&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; Each small voice matters - that is the nature of liberation.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; Each ambuya kumusha, every sekuru with 15 grandchildren to look after, each grandchild particularly when they turn 18, each voice matters.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp;&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; That is what this struggle is about.\r\nEverything thereafter is a detail.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; And actually it will become easier.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; With internet, it hard for anyone to \'cover up\'.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; We will be able to insist on greater transparency than we dreamed was possible in 1980.\r\nDoes Morgan have to do it all alone?&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; No he doesn\'t.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; He just has to \'chair \' the process.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; The rest of us are capable of setting up IT systems that show us and the world exactly what is happening where.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; The 100 dollar laptop scheme and some mobile phones and life changes very fast!!&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; The ten year olds will do it!\r\nWill that feed people?&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; Yes, it will.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; Because people feed themselves.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; They aren\'t babes-in-arms.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; All they need is the freedom to get on with their lives.\r\n&lt;em&gt;Votes that are respected.&lt;\/em&gt;\r\n&lt;em&gt;A stable currency&lt;\/em&gt;.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; &lt;em&gt;\r\n&lt;\/em&gt;\r\n&lt;em&gt;Transparent government and courts&lt;\/em&gt;.\r\nAfter that, the people do it all.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; We trade, we study, we teach - we never get our dinner from charity - we get it from self-interest of the butcher and baker.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; Zimbabweans understand that - we are not children.\r\nAnd do you know the best thing that we have achieved so far.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; Is that the voice of Zimbabweans do count!&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; You try getting overbearing in a Zimbabwean workplace.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; People will go very quiet.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; Someone may even come to you and say something politely.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; People in Zimbabwe like to discuss and then act - in that order.\r\nAnd does that work?&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; How many times have I had that discussion?!!! Yes it does.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; Companies pay big consultants big fees of thousands of pounds a day to show them how to consult!! Ha ha.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; How to have a &lt;em&gt;dare!&lt;\/em&gt;\r\nWe must continue having our modern-day &lt;em&gt;dare&lt;\/em&gt; and then that is our FIRST export product.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; We replace tobacco with wisdom.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; Yeah?\r\nWe bring tourists to Zimbabwe not to see a lion - thought they can see that too - but to talk to a grandfather who raises 15 grand children.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; To experience bravery, courage and resilience.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; These attributes are short in other places.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; People\'s souls are as dry as the vlei in Matabeleland in October and they want the rain of our courage to bring out the green grass in their hearts.\r\nWe will go to other countries and teach them about democracy.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp;&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; To show people how to sit down and talk and to come to conclusion they can all live with.\r\nTo stay true to real wisdom when life is bad.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; That is what it is all about.\r\nFrankly, we have to show the old man that we have benefited from Independence.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; We are free.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; We are free to make up our own minds, to speak with our own voices, to consult each other, and to decide the way forward that we will try for 1 day, ten days, 3 months, I year, 5 years.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; Always listening though because we could be wrong, and maybe we should change directions.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; That balance is what we are good at.\r\n&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp;\r\n&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp;'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: chinja</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 09:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The MDC need really think about what to do when they win the run-off election.</p>
<p>They need a plan A and a plan b.</p>
<p>What happens if Mugabe says no?</p>
<p>What are they, MDC, going to doÂ if this happens?</p>
<p>I heard Morgan in an interview a few weeks ago&#8230;he was clueless as what to do next if the results dont come out or if he wins but Zanu Pf does not budge.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('216860','chinja'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('216860','chinja','The MDC need really think about what to do when they win the run-off election.\r\n\r\nThey need a plan A and a plan b.\r\n\r\nWhat happens if Mugabe says no?\r\n\r\nWhat are they, MDC, going to do&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp;if this happens?\r\n\r\nI heard Morgan in an interview a few weeks ago...he was clueless as what to do next if the results dont come out or if he wins but Zanu Pf does not budge.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: chinja</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 09:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately sadc or any other international union is not the answer for Zimbabwe.<br />
Zimbabwe needs to find their voice without committing violence and they can but at what cost.</p>
<p>Power sharing is only the answer for politicians and not for the nation.Â  A country will not go forawrd in a power sharing government especially in Zimbabwe at this time.</p>
<p>Zimbabweans need a lot of answers for what has happened over the past 28 years and a power sharing government is not going to give this.<br />
Zimbabwe has heaps of potential to be a country that can be an economic and social success..it can even reachÂ heights of a first world coutnry whilst maintaining its culture and identity.<br />
A power sharing government will hold this back.<br />
Zanu Pf has too much blood on its hands for a majority to trust it.</p>
<p>A solution;Â  A party to win outright and they invite elements of the opposition to form a small part in cabinet.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('216855','chinja'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('216855','chinja','Unfortunately sadc or any other international union is not the answer for Zimbabwe.\r\nZimbabwe needs to find their voice without committing violence and they can but at what cost.\r\n\r\nPower sharing is only the answer for politicians and not for the nation.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; A country will not go forawrd in a power sharing government especially in Zimbabwe at this time.\r\n\r\nZimbabweans need a lot of answers for what has happened over the past 28 years and a power sharing government is not going to give this.\r\nZimbabwe has heaps of potential to be a country that can be an economic and social success..it can even reach&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp;heights of a first world coutnry whilst maintaining its culture and identity.\r\nA power sharing government will hold this back.\r\nZanu Pf has too much blood on its hands for a majority to trust it.\r\n\r\nA solution;&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; A party to win outright and they invite elements of the opposition to form a small part in cabinet.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: Tara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 09:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Adrienne - I have seen this too. There is no way that it can take a year before there is a run-off. Can anyone imagine what will happen during that time? Just look at the reports of violence at present, and its escalating. I agree that intervention is needed.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;216851&#039;,&#039;Tara&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;216851&#039;,&#039;Tara&#039;,&#039;@ Adrienne - I have seen this too. There is no way that it can take a year before there is a run-off. Can anyone imagine what will happen during that time? Just look at the reports of violence at present, and its escalating. I agree that intervention is needed.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: chinja</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 09:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel the MDC are caught betweenÂ a rock and hard place and unfrtunately they have to make the tough decision of going to the run-off.</p>
<p>MDC need to make hard decisions but should be made easier that it is not their fault that they are the opposition and the government is committing violence.<br />
Their aim is to be the next goverment and that is their job.Â  they should not be distracted by what the government wants to do or their commitment to destabilastion.</p>
<p>The best the MDC can do for their people is to say we are in and this is the vision and leadership and we are going to govern.Â  Boycotting shows weakness and no directionÂ to the people who follow an organisation promising them peace, freedom and human rights.Â  Imagine the let down of many if they are told what they have fought for til now is all for nothing.</p>
<p>MDC your resolve is being tested&#8230;stand up and be resilient.Â  Tell Mugabe &#8220;you can bash our bodies but you wont dampen our spirits&#8221;.</p>
<p>Mugabe&#8217;s campaign is for MDC to surrender&#8230;does the MDC ant to do this.Â  If they do they just need to boycott.</p>
<p>Too many lives have been lost up to now.Â  Is this all for nothing?</p>
<p>MDC can educate people how to defend.Â  If Morgan wants to be president he needs to act like one.Â  Start having vision and start leading his people&#8230;get them to defend themselves.<br />
Defending oneself is not committing violence.</p>
<p>Its time MDC throws it back at Mugabe and say if it means that some blood will be spilled to get you out&#8230;.we will get you out.</p>
<p>Mugabe is in the corner..he has to be vicious to get himself out of it.Â <br />
More people will die if MDC boycotts the election.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('216848','chinja'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('216848','chinja','I feel the MDC are caught between&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp;a rock and hard place and unfrtunately they have to make the tough decision of going to the run-off.\r\n\r\nMDC need to make hard decisions but should be made easier that it is not their fault that they are the opposition and the government is committing violence.\r\nTheir aim is to be the next goverment and that is their job.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; they should not be distracted by what the government wants to do or their commitment to destabilastion.\r\n\r\nThe best the MDC can do for their people is to say we are in and this is the vision and leadership and we are going to govern.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; Boycotting shows weakness and no direction&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp;to the people who follow an organisation promising them peace, freedom and human rights.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; Imagine the let down of many if they are told what they have fought for til now is all for nothing.\r\n\r\nMDC your resolve is being tested...stand up and be resilient.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; Tell Mugabe \&quot;you can bash our bodies but you wont dampen our spirits\&quot;.\r\n\r\nMugabe\'s campaign is for MDC to surrender...does the MDC ant to do this.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; If they do they just need to boycott.\r\n\r\nToo many lives have been lost up to now.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; Is this all for nothing?\r\n\r\nMDC can educate people how to defend.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; If Morgan wants to be president he needs to act like one.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; Start having vision and start leading his people...get them to defend themselves.\r\nDefending oneself is not committing violence.\r\n\r\nIts time MDC throws it back at Mugabe and say if it means that some blood will be spilled to get you out....we will get you out.\r\n\r\nMugabe is in the corner..he has to be vicious to get himself out of it.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; \r\nMore people will die if MDC boycotts the election.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: Adrienne</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 08:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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The guardian is reporting that the run-off may be delayed by a year. Zimbabwe can&#039;t really take another year under Mugabe, so can I encourage everyone to take advantage of the action contact list, and get in touch with SADC, AU, UN and other government contacts to petition them to intervene and verify the votes themselves. I&#039;m sure there is photographic evidence somewhere of the returns posted outside polling stations. We should try and track this information down and send it on to as many contacts as we can. If ZANU insists on a run-off, we need the international community to intervene and make this happen as soon as possible!&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;216802&#039;,&#039;Adrienne&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt; --- &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;216802&#039;,&#039;Adrienne&#039;,&#039;http:\/\/www.guardian.co.uk\/world\/2008\/may\/05\/zimbabwe\r\n\r\nThe guardian is reporting that the run-off may be delayed by a year. Zimbabwe can\&#039;t really take another year under Mugabe, so can I encourage everyone to take advantage of the action contact list, and get in touch with SADC, AU, UN and other government contacts to petition them to intervene and verify the votes themselves. I\&#039;m sure there is photographic evidence somewhere of the returns posted outside polling stations. We should try and track this information down and send it on to as many contacts as we can. If ZANU insists on a run-off, we need the international community to intervene and make this happen as soon as possible!&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote from this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>The guardian is reporting that the run-off may be delayed by a year. Zimbabwe can&#8217;t really take another year under Mugabe, so can I encourage everyone to take advantage of the action contact list, and get in touch with SADC, AU, UN and other government contacts to petition them to intervene and verify the votes themselves. I&#8217;m sure there is photographic evidence somewhere of the returns posted outside polling stations. We should try and track this information down and send it on to as many contacts as we can. If ZANU insists on a run-off, we need the international community to intervene and make this happen as soon as possible!
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('216802','Adrienne'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('216802','Adrienne','http:\/\/www.guardian.co.uk\/world\/2008\/may\/05\/zimbabwe\r\n\r\nThe guardian is reporting that the run-off may be delayed by a year. Zimbabwe can\'t really take another year under Mugabe, so can I encourage everyone to take advantage of the action contact list, and get in touch with SADC, AU, UN and other government contacts to petition them to intervene and verify the votes themselves. I\'m sure there is photographic evidence somewhere of the returns posted outside polling stations. We should try and track this information down and send it on to as many contacts as we can. If ZANU insists on a run-off, we need the international community to intervene and make this happen as soon as possible!'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: Cricket</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cricket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 07:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ask! How can the votes have such a vast difference when &#8211; you have a member of the ZEC counting, a party member over see that count then a re-check &amp; all members including the chief ZEC sign off the count at each station. Then it was posted outside. MDC-50.3%Â  ZANU-PF 42.3%Â  &amp; the rest other party members, which shows the people choice so Who fooling who? MDC must run in the re-run to prove they are the party to turn Zimbabwe around.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('216740','Cricket'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('216740','Cricket','I ask! How can the votes have such a vast difference when - you have a member of the ZEC counting, a party member over see that count then a re-check &amp;amp; all members including the chief ZEC sign off the count at each station. Then it was posted outside. MDC-50.3%&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; ZANU-PF 42.3%&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; &amp;amp; the rest other party members, which shows the people choice so Who fooling who? MDC must run in the re-run to prove they are the party to turn Zimbabwe around.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: mama</title>
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		<dc:creator>mama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 06:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BBC today says the teachers will go on strike in Zimbabwe as 113 of their members have been attacked&#8230;..so what % of people will actualy be working in Zimbabwe now?Â Â and they aren&#8217;t gonna want to man theÂ pole the station at the next run off&#8230;.Loved the advert in the Zim paper with all the contactÂ well done&#8230;. I got the impression Avaaz seem to think their work was done with the ship but am keeping contact with them and have suggested about the United People of Zimbabwe campaign and using text messages to sign&#8230;.. I long for co-ordination now too many seperate groups all saying the same thing all in agreementÂ but not working together&#8230;.Â  I was interested to read on one of these blogs that Mugabe made Grace a promise to step down in May it continues my thoughts that He is not all there&#8230;..I am sure his ambition is to retire to a farm like Nyere&#8230;..I don&#8217;t think he is running the show at all&#8230;..the childrens story the Emporers New Clothes Keeps Coming Back to me&#8230;&#8230;.
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		<title>By: Tara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 06:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>MDC learns of sniper plot<br />
2008-5-5 00:09<br />
Johannesburg. &#8211; Snipers in Zimbabwe are ready to shoot and kill MDC party leaders.<br />
These were the words of MDC spokesperson and former MP Roy Bennett on Sunday after the party was told by informants in the military of a plot to murder those high up in the MDC.<br />
Another MDC spokesperson said on Friday that 20 MDC members had already been murdered for political reasons since the March 29 elections.<br />
Human Rights Watch (HRW) said last Wednesday in Johannesburg that they had proof that the military was handing out weapons to youth militia members and &#8220;war veterans&#8221; in a terror campaign against the MDC.<br />
HRW also said that MDC members were being kept in torture camps, assaulted and forced to declare their allegiance to the Zanu-PF.<br />
&#8220;The MDC were informed that these snipers would also eliminate any opposition leader if given the opportunity,&#8221; Bennett said.<br />
In an attempt to escape night-time attacks, the leaders did not sleep in the same place for more than two nights in a row.<br />
Shortly after they left the place where they had slept, it was destroyed so as not to be used again.<br />
&#8220;The party leaders&#8217; family members are also tortured in their own homes so that they will provide information over where the leaders are to be found.<br />
And if the don&#8217;t co-operate, their homes are burnt down.&#8221;<br />
In the current climate of violence prevalent in especially the rural areas of Zimbabwe, there were 600 MDC members who were seriously injured, besides the 20 deaths.</p>
<p>Die Burger<strong></strong></p>
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<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('216696','Tara'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('216696','Tara','\r\n&lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/www.24.com\/news\/?p=tsa&amp;amp;i=905455\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;http:\/\/www.24.com\/news\/?p=tsa&amp;amp;i=905455&lt;\/a&gt;\r\n\r\nMDC learns of sniper plot\r\n2008-5-5 00:09\r\nJohannesburg. - Snipers in Zimbabwe are ready to shoot and kill MDC party leaders.\r\nThese were the words of MDC spokesperson and former MP Roy Bennett on Sunday after the party was told by informants in the military of a plot to murder those high up in the MDC.\r\nAnother MDC spokesperson said on Friday that 20 MDC members had already been murdered for political reasons since the March 29 elections.\r\nHuman Rights Watch (HRW) said last Wednesday in Johannesburg that they had proof that the military was handing out weapons to youth militia members and \&quot;war veterans\&quot; in a terror campaign against the MDC.\r\nHRW also said that MDC members were being kept in torture camps, assaulted and forced to declare their allegiance to the Zanu-PF.\r\n\&quot;The MDC were informed that these snipers would also eliminate any opposition leader if given the opportunity,\&quot; Bennett said.\r\nIn an attempt to escape night-time attacks, the leaders did not sleep in the same place for more than two nights in a row.\r\nShortly after they left the place where they had slept, it was destroyed so as not to be used again.\r\n\&quot;The party leaders\' family members are also tortured in their own homes so that they will provide information over where the leaders are to be found.\r\nAnd if the don\'t co-operate, their homes are burnt down.\&quot;\r\nIn the current climate of violence prevalent in especially the rural areas of Zimbabwe, there were 600 MDC members who were seriously injured, besides the 20 deaths.\r\n\r\nDie Burger&lt;strong&gt;&lt;\/strong&gt;\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp;\r\n'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: scotchcart</title>
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		<dc:creator>scotchcart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 20:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>democracy at work. . .<br />
I have just lifted this quote off one of the Obama blogsÂ Â  . .. ordinary people set a goal to make 1m calls from him in the runup to the next primary<br />
<a href="http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/person/gWgH5" rel="nofollow">Sarah</a>: I will make 100 calls this weekend â€¦ At least!<br />
<a href="http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/person/gcjs" rel="nofollow">Chris</a>: You can count on me to make at least one hundred calls this weekend.<br />
<a href="http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/person/gGqmYP" rel="nofollow">Tracey</a>: I can commit to 25 calls tomorrow, maybe more! Itâ€™s our 7 year oldsâ€™ birthday party but Iâ€™ll do some in the morning.<br />
<a href="http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/person/gGRlNs" rel="nofollow">Max</a>: Iâ€™ll be calling all Saturday and Sunday too! Going for at least 250 calls!<br />
<a href="http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/person/gGgDMK" rel="nofollow">Barbara</a>: I plan to make at least 150 calls this weekend. The people Iâ€™ve called in Indiana seem to be interested in discussing the issues â€” some of the longest calls yet. Talking about everything from jobs to unions right to organize to taxes to gay rights. Itâ€™s fun and interesting and feels like itâ€™s making a difference. I like seeing the counter click over, knowing that so many others are doing the same thing.<br />
<a href="http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/person/CJ3p" rel="nofollow">Donna</a>: Iâ€™ll be making 25 calls to IN and 25 calls to NC this weekend.<br />
<a href="http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/person/gBykf" rel="nofollow">Daniel</a>: At least 10 calls for me<br />
<a href="http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/person/gGtgmt" rel="nofollow">Really Hopeful</a>: I am devoting Saturday and Sunday to calling. I am pledging now to call at least 50 numbers each day.<br />
I like Mama&#8217;s idea of galvanizing students in foreign universities.Â  I know some of them have the skills to make some good YouTube mashups.Â  Music, pictures, videos &#8211; with a clear message.Â  Support Zimbabwe.Â  45% of voters turned out.Â  That is the same as the UK in their last elections.Â  That is incredible.<br />
A simple campaign of Watch democracy in Zimbabwe.Â  Let&#8217;s get the buzz going.<br />
And having said that, I will check in tomorrow to see what other people think are the priorities.<br />
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<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('216324','scotchcart'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('216324','scotchcart','democracy at work. . .\r\nI have just lifted this quote off one of the Obama blogs&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp;&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; . .. ordinary people set a goal to make 1m calls from him in the runup to the next primary\r\n&lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/my.barackobama.com\/page\/community\/person\/gWgH5\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Sarah&lt;\/a&gt;: I will make 100 calls this weekend &Atilde;&cent;&acirc;&not;&Acirc;&brvbar; At least!\r\n&lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/my.barackobama.com\/page\/community\/person\/gcjs\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Chris&lt;\/a&gt;: You can count on me to make at least one hundred calls this weekend.\r\n&lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/my.barackobama.com\/page\/community\/person\/gGqmYP\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Tracey&lt;\/a&gt;: I can commit to 25 calls tomorrow, maybe more! It&Atilde;&cent;&acirc;&not;&acirc;&cent;s our 7 year olds&Atilde;&cent;&acirc;&not;&acirc;&cent; birthday party but I&Atilde;&cent;&acirc;&not;&acirc;&cent;ll do some in the morning.\r\n&lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/my.barackobama.com\/page\/community\/person\/gGRlNs\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Max&lt;\/a&gt;: I&Atilde;&cent;&acirc;&not;&acirc;&cent;ll be calling all Saturday and Sunday too! Going for at least 250 calls!\r\n&lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/my.barackobama.com\/page\/community\/person\/gGgDMK\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Barbara&lt;\/a&gt;: I plan to make at least 150 calls this weekend. The people I&Atilde;&cent;&acirc;&not;&acirc;&cent;ve called in Indiana seem to be interested in discussing the issues &Atilde;&cent;&acirc;&not;&acirc; some of the longest calls yet. Talking about everything from jobs to unions right to organize to taxes to gay rights. It&Atilde;&cent;&acirc;&not;&acirc;&cent;s fun and interesting and feels like it&Atilde;&cent;&acirc;&not;&acirc;&cent;s making a difference. I like seeing the counter click over, knowing that so many others are doing the same thing.\r\n&lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/my.barackobama.com\/page\/community\/person\/CJ3p\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Donna&lt;\/a&gt;: I&Atilde;&cent;&acirc;&not;&acirc;&cent;ll be making 25 calls to IN and 25 calls to NC this weekend.\r\n&lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/my.barackobama.com\/page\/community\/person\/gBykf\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Daniel&lt;\/a&gt;: At least 10 calls for me\r\n&lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/my.barackobama.com\/page\/community\/person\/gGtgmt\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Really Hopeful&lt;\/a&gt;: I am devoting Saturday and Sunday to calling. I am pledging now to call at least 50 numbers each day.\r\nI like Mama\'s idea of galvanizing students in foreign universities.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; I know some of them have the skills to make some good YouTube mashups.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; Music, pictures, videos - with a clear message.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; Support Zimbabwe.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; 45% of voters turned out.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; That is the same as the UK in their last elections.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; That is incredible.\r\nA simple campaign of Watch democracy in Zimbabwe.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; Let\'s get the buzz going.\r\nAnd having said that, I will check in tomorrow to see what other people think are the priorities.\r\n&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp;\r\n&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp;\r\n&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp;\r\n&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp;\r\n&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp;\r\n&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp;\r\n&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp;\r\n&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp;\r\n&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp;\r\n&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp;'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: 4th Chimurenga</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 19:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>INCLUSIVE GOVENMENT?</strong>??<br />
I dont think that will work in the Zimbabwean scenario. MDC &amp; ZANU have completely different ideologies which cannot be mixed up&#8230;Â  ZANU PF is for ZANU PF whilst MDC is for Zimbabweans. ZANU PF is only interested in safeguarding its loot at the expense of the whole nation.Â  Apart from that who can lead that inclusive govement? Nether of the two leaders of the parties is willing to be ruled by the other. ZANU PF should change its &#8220;military system&#8221; of ruling before joining hands with MDC. We dont care about the ZANU people but the system amongst them.. General Josiah Tongogara once said refering to the Smith regime &#8220;we are not fighting the whites, but a system amongst them&#8217;
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('216230','4th Chimurenga'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('216230','4th Chimurenga','&lt;strong&gt;INCLUSIVE GOVENMENT?&lt;\/strong&gt;??\r\nI dont think that will work in the Zimbabwean scenario. MDC &amp;amp; ZANU have completely different ideologies which cannot be mixed up...&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; ZANU PF is for ZANU PF whilst MDC is for Zimbabweans. ZANU PF is only interested in safeguarding its loot at the expense of the whole nation.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; Apart from that who can lead that inclusive govement? Nether of the two leaders of the parties is willing to be ruled by the other. ZANU PF should change its \&quot;military system\&quot; of ruling before joining hands with MDC. We dont care about the ZANU people but the system amongst them.. General Josiah Tongogara once said refering to the Smith regime \&quot;we are not fighting the whites, but a system amongst them\''); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: Malcolm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Malcolm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 16:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know where Jim got his table of results from, but it&#8217;s useful to comment on;</p>
<p>Did MDC factor in the postal votes (diplomatic and security service votes)? These counts were not included in the polling stations results, which MDC used for their projections.Â  Does this account for the 80435 difference between the MDC and ZEC totals? Referring to the postal vote â€˜wildcardâ€™ and being certain who those votes were for, what can be said of the minor variance between the MDC and ZEC counts for Mugabe? Something doesnâ€™t sit well in these results, and I canâ€™t put my finger on it! This whole thing strikes of statistical manipulation. No one can get to see all the data. All weâ€™re given is a final total, which can easily hide a host of discrepancies. Are we ever going to see the results by constituencies? I doubt it, because Mugabe has no idea which evidence MDC has from the displayed polling station results, and a comparison with ZEC manipulated votes is risky. There is absolutely no transparency in these results at all. It seems that international leaders are waiting in vainÂ for this cloudiness to dissipate and are holding back. Whatâ€™s wrong with the concept of â€˜reasonable doubtâ€™. Itâ€™s used frequently by jurors in criminal convictions.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('216133','Malcolm'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> &#8212; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('216133','Malcolm','I don\'t know where Jim got his table of results from, but it\'s useful to comment on;\r\n\r\nDid MDC factor in the postal votes (diplomatic and security service votes)? These counts were not included in the polling stations results, which MDC used for their projections.&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp; Does this account for the 80435 difference between the MDC and ZEC totals? Referring to the postal vote &Atilde;&cent;&acirc;&not;&Euml;wildcard&Atilde;&cent;&acirc;&not;&acirc;&cent; and being certain who those votes were for, what can be said of the minor variance between the MDC and ZEC counts for Mugabe? Something doesn&Atilde;&cent;&acirc;&not;&acirc;&cent;t sit well in these results, and I can&Atilde;&cent;&acirc;&not;&acirc;&cent;t put my finger on it! This whole thing strikes of statistical manipulation. No one can get to see all the data. All we&Atilde;&cent;&acirc;&not;&acirc;&cent;re given is a final total, which can easily hide a host of discrepancies. Are we ever going to see the results by constituencies? I doubt it, because Mugabe has no idea which evidence MDC has from the displayed polling station results, and a comparison with ZEC manipulated votes is risky. There is absolutely no transparency in these results at all. It seems that international leaders are waiting in vain&Atilde;&Acirc;&nbsp;for this cloudiness to dissipate and are holding back. What&Atilde;&cent;&acirc;&not;&acirc;&cent;s wrong with the concept of &Atilde;&cent;&acirc;&not;&Euml;reasonable doubt&Atilde;&cent;&acirc;&not;&acirc;&cent;. It&Atilde;&cent;&acirc;&not;&acirc;&cent;s used frequently by jurors in criminal convictions.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div>
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