Comments on: WOZA members beaten in Bulawayo today; at least 11 arrested - concern for their whereabouts http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/938 This is Zimbabwe is Sokwanele's pro-democracy activist blog. It provides grassroots news and views from Zimbabwe. Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:38:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: mama http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/938#comment-220178 mama Sat, 10 May 2008 06:49:52 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=938#comment-220178 Well the WOZA girls are out for now and the charges are rediculous but hey what's new....Good job everyone.... http://www.wozazimbabwe.org/...read this a judge with a brain.....<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('220178','mama'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('220178','mama','Well the WOZA girls are out for now and the charges are rediculous but hey what\'s new....Good job everyone....\r\nhttp:\/\/www.wozazimbabwe.org\/...read this a judge with a brain.....'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> Well the WOZA girls are out for now and the charges are rediculous but hey what’s new….Good job everyone….
http://www.wozazimbabwe.org/…read this a judge with a brain…..
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]]> By: mambo http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/938#comment-219780 mambo Fri, 09 May 2008 07:57:54 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=938#comment-219780 If the international community cannot be moved by such evidence of moral decadence, I don't know what else Zimbabweans should do to stop this slow motion horror. It defies logic and an absolute shame that we should be be parading such barbarity  when the whole world is getting more enlightened ( even quark Castro's Cuba is finally seeing the light). Think for a moment, the people behind these gruesome images are being made to do it and the people ordering this mayhem are themselves captives of a higher order. I say Mugabe must be made to account for this. The fact that such violence is commonplace elsewhere in the world should not be used as an excuse to let it fester in Zimbabwe.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('219780','mambo'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('219780','mambo','If the international community cannot be moved by such evidence of moral decadence, I don\'t know what else Zimbabweans should do to stop this slow motion horror. It defies logic and an absolute shame that we should be be parading such barbarity  when the whole world is getting more enlightened ( even quark Castro\'s Cuba is finally seeing the light). Think for a moment, the people behind these gruesome images are being made to do it and the people ordering this mayhem are themselves captives of a higher order. I say Mugabe must be made to account for this. The fact that such violence is commonplace elsewhere in the world should not be used as an excuse to let it fester in Zimbabwe.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> If the international community cannot be moved by such evidence of moral decadence, I don’t know what else Zimbabweans should do to stop this slow motion horror. It defies logic and an absolute shame that we should be be parading such barbarity  when the whole world is getting more enlightened ( even quark Castro’s Cuba is finally seeing the light). Think for a moment, the people behind these gruesome images are being made to do it and the people ordering this mayhem are themselves captives of a higher order. I say Mugabe must be made to account for this. The fact that such violence is commonplace elsewhere in the world should not be used as an excuse to let it fester in Zimbabwe.
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]]> By: mama http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/938#comment-218902 mama Wed, 07 May 2008 18:20:43 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=938#comment-218902 Mandela 90th b/day and they are holding a concert in London in his honour and he says they can only do that if they support his charities his and Operha's....SO GIRLS TOMORROW IS INTERNATIONAL WOMANS WEEK WHAT ARE WE DOING FOR IT...I wonder if Grace is a member in Malaysia (I might have to look that one up and write to there organisation there if she is......Any news on the WOZA detainees?.....<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('218902','mama'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('218902','mama','Mandela 90th b\/day and they are holding a concert in London in his honour and he says they can only do that if they support his charities his and Operha\'s....SO GIRLS TOMORROW IS INTERNATIONAL WOMANS WEEK WHAT ARE WE DOING FOR IT...I wonder if Grace is a member in Malaysia (I might have to look that one up and write to there organisation there if she is......Any news on the WOZA detainees?.....'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> Mandela 90th b/day and they are holding a concert in London in his honour and he says they can only do that if they support his charities his and Operha’s….SO GIRLS TOMORROW IS INTERNATIONAL WOMANS WEEK WHAT ARE WE DOING FOR IT…I wonder if Grace is a member in Malaysia (I might have to look that one up and write to there organisation there if she is……Any news on the WOZA detainees?…..
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]]> By: Bugs http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/938#comment-218187 Bugs Tue, 06 May 2008 15:17:01 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=938#comment-218187 I am somewhat confused about Mandela.   I was led to beleive that  he is still considered extremely influencial, politically and spiritually among the African leadership.  I understand he is ill etc but he is due to to London for his birthday pop concert.    Surely that is more taxing than saying his piece about the state of Zim and showing support for the people. He said quite a while ago that the people of Zimbabwe, 'knew what they had to do'... but they have done what they had to do ......?  So one has to wonder where the great leader is at this time when we desperatly need support from African leaders.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('218187','Bugs'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('218187','Bugs','I am somewhat confused about Mandela.   I was led to beleive that  he is still considered extremely influencial, politically and spiritually among the African leadership.  I understand he is ill etc but he is due to to London for his birthday pop concert.    Surely that is more taxing than saying his piece about the state of Zim and showing support for the people. He said quite a while ago that the people of Zimbabwe, \'knew what they had to do\'... but they have done what they had to do ......?  So one has to wonder where the great leader is at this time when we desperatly need support from African leaders.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> I am somewhat confused about Mandela.   I was led to beleive that  he is still considered extremely influencial, politically and spiritually among the African leadership.  I understand he is ill etc but he is due to to London for his birthday pop concert.    Surely that is more taxing than saying his piece about the state of Zim and showing support for the people. He said quite a while ago that the people of Zimbabwe, ‘knew what they had to do’… but they have done what they had to do ……?  So one has to wonder where the great leader is at this time when we desperatly need support from African leaders.
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]]> By: Tara http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/938#comment-218089 Tara Tue, 06 May 2008 12:25:57 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=938#comment-218089 @exbulawayo - Madiba (Nelson Mandela) has not been very active in the public, for what feels like a very long time. He is not all that well, needs lots of rest. He has done so much and more than his share, we cannot expect him to do it forever. The younger generations must now proof their leadership. Unfortunately, it is not always clear from media reports, who is worthy to lead us: <a href="http://www.swradioafrica.com/pages/mbekifoundout050508.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.swradioafrica.com/pages/mbekifoundout050508.htm</a> Mbeki tells SA pastors bluntly that he supports Mugabe.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('218089','Tara'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('218089','Tara','@exbulawayo - Madiba (Nelson Mandela) has not been very active in the public, for what feels like a very long time. He is not all that well, needs lots of rest. He has done so much and more than his share, we cannot expect him to do it forever. The younger generations must now proof their leadership. \r\n\r\nUnfortunately, it is not always clear from media reports, who is worthy to lead us:\r\n\r\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.swradioafrica.com\/pages\/mbekifoundout050508.htm\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/www.swradioafrica.com\/pages\/mbekifoundout050508.htm<\/a>\r\nMbeki tells SA pastors bluntly that he supports Mugabe.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> @exbulawayo - Madiba (Nelson Mandela) has not been very active in the public, for what feels like a very long time. He is not all that well, needs lots of rest. He has done so much and more than his share, we cannot expect him to do it forever. The younger generations must now proof their leadership.

Unfortunately, it is not always clear from media reports, who is worthy to lead us:

http://www.swradioafrica.com/pages/mbekifoundout050508.htm
Mbeki tells SA pastors bluntly that he supports Mugabe.

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]]> By: mama http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/938#comment-218000 mama Tue, 06 May 2008 10:09:43 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=938#comment-218000 From Woza's Web site Please call Bulawayo Central Police Station on +263 9 72515, +263 9 61706 or +263 9 63061 and demand the immediate release of the two WOZA members. Please also ask Inspector Mabhari why he ordered the beating of innocent protestors and bystanders. You can also remind the officers that they are unlikely to receive immunity from justice when democracy returns to Zimbabwe but they have an opportunity to be remembered for the good they have done by releasing members today and treating them fairly<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('218000','mama'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('218000','mama','From Woza\'s Web site\r\n\r\nPlease call Bulawayo Central Police Station on +263 9 72515, +263 9 61706 or +263 9 63061 and demand the immediate release of the two WOZA members. Please also ask Inspector Mabhari why he ordered the beating of innocent protestors and bystanders. You can also remind the officers that they are unlikely to receive immunity from justice when democracy returns to Zimbabwe but they have an opportunity to be remembered for the good they have done by releasing members today and treating them fairly'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> From Woza’s Web site

Please call Bulawayo Central Police Station on +263 9 72515, +263 9 61706 or +263 9 63061 and demand the immediate release of the two WOZA members. Please also ask Inspector Mabhari why he ordered the beating of innocent protestors and bystanders. You can also remind the officers that they are unlikely to receive immunity from justice when democracy returns to Zimbabwe but they have an opportunity to be remembered for the good they have done by releasing members today and treating them fairly

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]]> By: Cricket http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/938#comment-217925 Cricket Tue, 06 May 2008 08:32:16 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=938#comment-217925 I ask: Do the people of Zimbabwe really want to live like this for another 5 years?  NO!!  well you must pull yourselves together & I mean "everyone" and push Mugabe out by expressing you vote once again whether it involves violence or not for ZANU-PF coz that the only way they know how to resolve a problem or hang onto power. It would only be a pleasure to vote if were allowed to outside Zimbabwe, the more the better because it make it difficult to rig. Cricket<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('217925','Cricket'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('217925','Cricket','I ask: Do the people of Zimbabwe really want to live like this for another 5 years?  NO!!  well you must pull yourselves together &amp; I mean \"everyone\" and push Mugabe out by expressing you vote once again whether it involves violence or not for ZANU-PF coz that the only way they know how to resolve a problem or hang onto power. It would only be a pleasure to vote if were allowed to outside Zimbabwe, the more the better because it make it difficult to rig. \r\nCricket'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> I ask: Do the people of Zimbabwe really want to live like this for another 5 years?  NO!!  well you must pull yourselves together & I mean “everyone” and push Mugabe out by expressing you vote once again whether it involves violence or not for ZANU-PF coz that the only way they know how to resolve a problem or hang onto power. It would only be a pleasure to vote if were allowed to outside Zimbabwe, the more the better because it make it difficult to rig.
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]]> By: exbulawayo http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/938#comment-217792 exbulawayo Tue, 06 May 2008 05:25:22 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=938#comment-217792 A perfect example of dictatorship. Why has Nelson Mandela not intervened ? It seems all the African countries like to sit and watch murder, corruption, and poverty as part of their lives. Shocking state of affairs. May Morgan change all of this for all the people in Zim and may it come soon. How much longer can we keep a brave face ? Do they really only want to see the worst coming out from this before they will act ? What is wrong with the human race ?Does bloodshed turn them on ? and they all want to stand for democracy ?<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('217792','exbulawayo'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('217792','exbulawayo','A perfect example of dictatorship. Why has Nelson Mandela not intervened ? It seems all the African countries like to sit and watch murder, corruption, and poverty as part of their lives. Shocking state of affairs. May Morgan change all of this for all the people in Zim and may it come soon. How much longer can we keep a brave face ? Do they really only want to see the worst coming out from this before they will act ? What is wrong with the human race ?Does bloodshed turn them on ? and they all want to stand for democracy ?'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> A perfect example of dictatorship. Why has Nelson Mandela not intervened ? It seems all the African countries like to sit and watch murder, corruption, and poverty as part of their lives. Shocking state of affairs. May Morgan change all of this for all the people in Zim and may it come soon. How much longer can we keep a brave face ? Do they really only want to see the worst coming out from this before they will act ? What is wrong with the human race ?Does bloodshed turn them on ? and they all want to stand for democracy ?
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]]> By: David Morris http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/938#comment-217483 David Morris Mon, 05 May 2008 21:37:38 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=938#comment-217483 Innocent people getting beaten for simply voicing an opinion is totally unacceptable. They hadn't been physically violent at all and this happens. I really worry for the people of Zimbabwe. I do hope that Tsvangirai gets the presidency.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('217483','David Morris'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('217483','David Morris','Innocent people getting beaten for simply voicing an opinion is totally unacceptable. They hadn\'t been physically violent at all and this happens. I really worry for the people of Zimbabwe. I do hope that Tsvangirai gets the presidency.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> Innocent people getting beaten for simply voicing an opinion is totally unacceptable. They hadn’t been physically violent at all and this happens. I really worry for the people of Zimbabwe. I do hope that Tsvangirai gets the presidency.
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]]> By: 4th Chimurenga http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/938#comment-217376 4th Chimurenga Mon, 05 May 2008 19:31:40 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=938#comment-217376 <strong>DEATH OF DEMOCRACY!! </strong> Everyone in Zimbabwe is living in fear of the Mugabe regime. People  cannot express themselves peacefully. They are even intimidating for expressing their will in a ballot box. If you have a relative amongst the security forces please advise him/her not to be used for evil purposes. They would rather leave the job for God's sake. Thou shall not kill. I know life is hard but can you be paid a monthly salary of US$30 for killing innocent people?<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('217376','4th Chimurenga'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('217376','4th Chimurenga','<strong>DEATH OF DEMOCRACY!! \r\n<\/strong>\r\nEveryone in Zimbabwe is living in fear of the Mugabe regime. People  cannot express themselves peacefully. They are even intimidating for expressing their will in a ballot box. If you have a relative amongst the security forces please advise him\/her not to be used for evil purposes. They would rather leave the job for God\'s sake. Thou shall not kill. I know life is hard but can you be paid a monthly salary of US$30 for killing innocent people?'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> DEATH OF DEMOCRACY!!

Everyone in Zimbabwe is living in fear of the Mugabe regime. People  cannot express themselves peacefully. They are even intimidating for expressing their will in a ballot box. If you have a relative amongst the security forces please advise him/her not to be used for evil purposes. They would rather leave the job for God’s sake. Thou shall not kill. I know life is hard but can you be paid a monthly salary of US$30 for killing innocent people?
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