Comments on: Statement made by William Bruce Rogers and Annette Mary Rogers http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/957 This is Zimbabwe is Sokwanele's pro-democracy activist blog. It provides grassroots news and views from Zimbabwe. Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:14:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Shevaunne http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/957#comment-236010 Shevaunne Fri, 06 Jun 2008 10:21:31 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=957#comment-236010 This is my Mum and Dad, and I would like to say on behalf of my entire family...thank you to everyone for you supporting words. They have meant the world to us all at a time like this. The Rogers Family<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('236010','Shevaunne'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('236010','Shevaunne','This is my Mum and Dad, and I would like to say on behalf of my entire family...thank you to everyone for you supporting words. They have meant the world to us all at a time like this.\r\n\r\nThe Rogers Family'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> This is my Mum and Dad, and I would like to say on behalf of my entire family…thank you to everyone for you supporting words. They have meant the world to us all at a time like this.

The Rogers Family

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]]> By: Jules http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/957#comment-231897 Jules Fri, 30 May 2008 12:51:18 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=957#comment-231897 To William and Annette Rogers, and to all unnamed people suffering so horrifically there in Zimbabwe, please know that there are many many people around the world in far off places who hearts break for each and every one of you and who would end what is happening in an instant if they had the power. The evil being perpetrated is unthinkable. Talk to us as often as you can. Tell the world what is going on. Get the information out, every little bit, any way you can - internet, letters, sms. Names, dates, places, actions... tell, tell, tell! Evil-doers most fear exposure - well documented, detailed testimony and supporting evidence of their actions. So, my fellow human beings, survive as best you can, and to live to tell your stories and see better days. No matter what is happening to you and your loved ones, know that there are people who desire to end your suffering and are doing what they can to try to stop it and bring the perpetrators to justice. Jules (Western Australia)<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('231897','Jules'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('231897','Jules','To William and Annette Rogers, and to all unnamed people suffering so horrifically there in Zimbabwe, please know that there are many many people around the world in far off places who hearts break for each and every one of you and who would end what is happening in an instant if they had the power. \r\nThe evil being perpetrated is unthinkable. \r\nTalk to us as often as you can.\r\nTell the world what is going on.\r\nGet the information out, every little bit, any way you can - internet, letters, sms. Names, dates, places, actions... tell, tell, tell!\r\nEvil-doers most fear exposure - well documented, detailed testimony and supporting evidence of their actions. \r\nSo, my fellow human beings, survive as best you can, and to live to tell your stories and see better days. No matter what is happening to you and your loved ones, know that there are people who desire to end your suffering and are doing what they can to try to stop it and bring the perpetrators to justice.\r\nJules\r\n(Western Australia)'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> To William and Annette Rogers, and to all unnamed people suffering so horrifically there in Zimbabwe, please know that there are many many people around the world in far off places who hearts break for each and every one of you and who would end what is happening in an instant if they had the power.
The evil being perpetrated is unthinkable.
Talk to us as often as you can.
Tell the world what is going on.
Get the information out, every little bit, any way you can - internet, letters, sms. Names, dates, places, actions… tell, tell, tell!
Evil-doers most fear exposure - well documented, detailed testimony and supporting evidence of their actions.
So, my fellow human beings, survive as best you can, and to live to tell your stories and see better days. No matter what is happening to you and your loved ones, know that there are people who desire to end your suffering and are doing what they can to try to stop it and bring the perpetrators to justice.
Jules
(Western Australia)
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]]> By: journalist http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/957#comment-223554 journalist Fri, 16 May 2008 12:32:00 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=957#comment-223554 Dear William and Annette, Your story will be published in Europe! Be sure, the Dutch audience will hear your voice. Keep up your work and be strong. A lot of christians in the world - black and white - are praying for a better Zimbabwe. Once Mugabe will be judged!<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('223554','journalist'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('223554','journalist','Dear William and Annette,\r\nYour story will be published in Europe! Be sure, the Dutch audience will hear your voice. Keep up your work and be strong. A lot of christians in the world - black and white - are praying for a better Zimbabwe. Once Mugabe will be judged!'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> Dear William and Annette,
Your story will be published in Europe! Be sure, the Dutch audience will hear your voice. Keep up your work and be strong. A lot of christians in the world - black and white - are praying for a better Zimbabwe. Once Mugabe will be judged!
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]]> By: tc http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/957#comment-223258 tc Thu, 15 May 2008 17:14:12 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=957#comment-223258 Thanks for your comments Rosemary. Anybody who thinks this could be of some use should write to zspeakpoint@gmail.com. I will then send them the password and we can use the address itself as a platform. My idea with that is to make the space a bit more private. I don't have the means to set it up any other way but ideas are welcome. My personal point of view is that Sokwanele and other sites already provide a good space for finding ways to act that give real results. My idea was more a space for dialogue and I don't know what direction it could really take or how we could do it. It will depend on what others want or think.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('223258','tc'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('223258','tc','Thanks for your comments Rosemary. Anybody who thinks this could be of some use should write to zspeakpoint@gmail.com. I will then send them the password and we can use the address itself as a platform. My idea with that is to make the space a bit more private. I don\'t have the means to set it up any other way but ideas are welcome.\r\nMy personal point of view is that Sokwanele and other sites already provide a good space for finding ways to act that give real results. My idea was more a space for dialogue and I don\'t know what direction it could really take or how we could do it. It will depend on what others want or think.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> Thanks for your comments Rosemary. Anybody who thinks this could be of some use should write to zspeakpoint@gmail.com. I will then send them the password and we can use the address itself as a platform. My idea with that is to make the space a bit more private. I don’t have the means to set it up any other way but ideas are welcome.
My personal point of view is that Sokwanele and other sites already provide a good space for finding ways to act that give real results. My idea was more a space for dialogue and I don’t know what direction it could really take or how we could do it. It will depend on what others want or think.
Reply to this comment — zspeakpoint@gmail.com. I will then send them the password and we can use the address itself as a platform. My idea with that is to make the space a bit more private. I don\’t have the means to set it up any other way but ideas are welcome.\r\nMy personal point of view is that Sokwanele and other sites already provide a good space for finding ways to act that give real results. My idea was more a space for dialogue and I don\’t know what direction it could really take or how we could do it. It will depend on what others want or think.’); return false;”>Quote from this comment
]]> By: Rosemary http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/957#comment-223199 Rosemary Thu, 15 May 2008 14:26:10 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=957#comment-223199 tc Go ahead and open up dialogue and I am sure people will participate.  I believe people want to be part of a group that yield results.  Just talking is not what Zimbabweans want at this point, but talking with solutions on how to stop the carnage, where they can go to get their wounds healed.  They want Peace.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('223199','Rosemary'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('223199','Rosemary','tc\r\nGo ahead and open up dialogue and I am sure people will participate.  I believe people want to be part of a group that yield results.  Just talking is not what Zimbabweans want at this point, but talking with solutions on how to stop the carnage, where they can go to get their wounds healed.  They want Peace.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> tc
Go ahead and open up dialogue and I am sure people will participate.  I believe people want to be part of a group that yield results.  Just talking is not what Zimbabweans want at this point, but talking with solutions on how to stop the carnage, where they can go to get their wounds healed.  They want Peace.
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]]> By: tc http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/957#comment-223120 tc Thu, 15 May 2008 10:56:46 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=957#comment-223120 I am Zimbabwean and grew up in the 70s there. I have heard accounts of violence like this by severely traumatised people all my life. The current violence is in my opinion reactivating historical traumas and is going to create problems for future generations as well.  I think it is so important that there be these visible accounts of the violence and that the perpetrators know they will be held accountable, because part of this culture has been the lawlessness the Rogers speak of - the police turning a blind eye - and the fact that Zimbabweans tend to bury this trauma in the desire for peace. How important is this semi-silenced memory of violence to Mugabe in his tactics to hold onto power by terrorising and how does this legacy of fear paralyse people? I am interested in talking/writing to other Zimbabweans about this, to open up space for dealing with how this violence affects us (wherever we are). If anyone is interested please leave a posting here and I'll then set up an email address to get it going.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('223120','tc'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('223120','tc','I am Zimbabwean and grew up in the 70s there. I have heard accounts of violence like this by severely traumatised people all my life. The current violence is in my opinion reactivating historical traumas and is going to create problems for future generations as well.  I think it is so important that there be these visible accounts of the violence and that the perpetrators know they will be held accountable, because part of this culture has been the lawlessness the Rogers speak of - the police turning a blind eye - and the fact that Zimbabweans tend to bury this trauma in the desire for peace. How important is this semi-silenced memory of violence to Mugabe in his tactics to hold onto power by terrorising and how does this legacy of fear paralyse people? I am interested in talking\/writing to other Zimbabweans about this, to open up space for dealing with how this violence affects us (wherever we are). If anyone is interested please leave a posting here and I\'ll then set up an email address to get it going.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> I am Zimbabwean and grew up in the 70s there. I have heard accounts of violence like this by severely traumatised people all my life. The current violence is in my opinion reactivating historical traumas and is going to create problems for future generations as well.  I think it is so important that there be these visible accounts of the violence and that the perpetrators know they will be held accountable, because part of this culture has been the lawlessness the Rogers speak of - the police turning a blind eye - and the fact that Zimbabweans tend to bury this trauma in the desire for peace. How important is this semi-silenced memory of violence to Mugabe in his tactics to hold onto power by terrorising and how does this legacy of fear paralyse people? I am interested in talking/writing to other Zimbabweans about this, to open up space for dealing with how this violence affects us (wherever we are). If anyone is interested please leave a posting here and I’ll then set up an email address to get it going.
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]]> By: Rosemary http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/957#comment-222716 Rosemary Wed, 14 May 2008 21:36:10 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=957#comment-222716 God, Our Heavenly Father, Please spare your children, how long should they suffer under one man like this.  I sympathise with Mr. & Mrs. Rogers, no man should suffer like this.  What has gotten into Zimbabweans, always known as peace loving, whose children are these thugs?  Why has the world forsaken us. I am appalled at the barbaric way these group of thugs are treating other humans who are just like them.  How do they sleep at night?  How much have they been paid, is this really worth any amount of money, such short lived miserable fame. God, you have promised that you will never leave nor forsake us, please send your angels to guard over the families who are perishing under Robert Mugabe.  We cannot ask why God, so please hear our prayers.  Let him keep the land, but please spare God's people, they have not done anything wrong, but expressed their free will.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('222716','Rosemary'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('222716','Rosemary','God, Our Heavenly Father, Please spare your children, how long should they suffer under one man like this.  I sympathise with Mr. &amp; Mrs. Rogers, no man should suffer like this.  \r\n\r\nWhat has gotten into Zimbabweans, always known as peace loving, whose children are these thugs?  Why has the world forsaken us.\r\nI am appalled at the barbaric way these group of thugs are treating other humans who are just like them.  How do they sleep at night?  How much have they been paid, is this really worth any amount of money, such short lived miserable fame.\r\n\r\nGod, you have promised that you will never leave nor forsake us, please send your angels to guard over the families who are perishing under Robert Mugabe.  We cannot ask why God, so please hear our prayers.  Let him keep the land, but please spare God\'s people, they have not done anything wrong, but expressed their free will.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> God, Our Heavenly Father, Please spare your children, how long should they suffer under one man like this.  I sympathise with Mr. & Mrs. Rogers, no man should suffer like this. 

What has gotten into Zimbabweans, always known as peace loving, whose children are these thugs?  Why has the world forsaken us.
I am appalled at the barbaric way these group of thugs are treating other humans who are just like them.  How do they sleep at night?  How much have they been paid, is this really worth any amount of money, such short lived miserable fame.

God, you have promised that you will never leave nor forsake us, please send your angels to guard over the families who are perishing under Robert Mugabe.  We cannot ask why God, so please hear our prayers.  Let him keep the land, but please spare God’s people, they have not done anything wrong, but expressed their free will.

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]]> By: exbulawayo http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/957#comment-222708 exbulawayo Wed, 14 May 2008 21:12:16 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=957#comment-222708 This type of behaviour will lead to the complete downfall for Africa as a whole, and can only be the result of racist terrorist leaders like Mugabe reigning terror on the people. Fortunately the majority of black Zimbos do know it is the wrong way, and sincerely hope they use their influence to set an example of how to live in peace along side of all races and to be tolerant with each other and realize that there are no perfect race and accept their differences too.We need to become the example for Africa, we can do it and we will, but at the same time we now need intervention from outside as it seems there seems to be a general revenge trip on the Matabele nation as a whole besides the revenge for the opposition movement. The blood flow must end now. <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('222708','exbulawayo'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('222708','exbulawayo','This type of behaviour will lead to the complete downfall for Africa as a whole, and can only be the result of racist terrorist leaders like Mugabe reigning terror on the people. Fortunately the majority of black Zimbos do know it is the wrong way, and sincerely hope they use their influence to set an example of how to live in peace along side of all races and to be tolerant with each other and realize that there are no perfect race and accept their differences too.We need to become the example for Africa, we can do it and we will, but at the same time we now need intervention from outside as it seems there seems to be a general revenge trip on the Matabele nation as a whole besides the revenge for the opposition movement. The blood flow must end now. '); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> This type of behaviour will lead to the complete downfall for Africa as a whole, and can only be the result of racist terrorist leaders like Mugabe reigning terror on the people. Fortunately the majority of black Zimbos do know it is the wrong way, and sincerely hope they use their influence to set an example of how to live in peace along side of all races and to be tolerant with each other and realize that there are no perfect race and accept their differences too.We need to become the example for Africa, we can do it and we will, but at the same time we now need intervention from outside as it seems there seems to be a general revenge trip on the Matabele nation as a whole besides the revenge for the opposition movement. The blood flow must end now.
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]]> By: Ants http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/957#comment-222639 Ants Wed, 14 May 2008 17:55:12 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=957#comment-222639 Ijahman - Yes the old racist adage for Majority Rule in Africa is actually "One man - One vote - ONCE". Funny how those old jokes become reality time after time in Africa thanks to creatures like Mugabe. Indeed, I agree - Zim needs peace keeping intervention more now than it never has in its history.  I don't believe for one minute that Mugabe ever actually WON one single election fairly and squarely during his reign.  Now is the time to teach him a lesson.  I can recall the rife intimidation and duress he turned on the rural Zimbabweans prior to winning that first election in 1980 - even though many would decry that. I also remember what living through a terrorist war was like.  Liberator or not - Mugabe has ALWAYS been a terrorist, exercising extreme fear against white and black alike to get his way, all the while pretending to be a statesman. The leopard NEVER changes its spots.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('222639','Ants'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('222639','Ants','Ijahman - Yes the old racist adage for Majority Rule in Africa is actually \"One man - One vote - ONCE\".\r\n\r\nFunny how those old jokes become reality time after time in Africa thanks to creatures like Mugabe.\r\n\r\nIndeed, I agree - Zim needs peace keeping intervention more now than it never has in its history.  I don\'t believe for one minute that Mugabe ever actually WON one single election fairly and squarely during his reign.  Now is the time to teach him a lesson.  I can recall the rife intimidation and duress he turned on the rural Zimbabweans prior to winning that first election in 1980 - even though many would decry that.\r\n\r\nI also remember what living through a terrorist war was like.  Liberator or not - Mugabe has ALWAYS been a terrorist, exercising extreme fear against white and black alike to get his way, all the while pretending to be a statesman.\r\n\r\nThe leopard NEVER changes its spots.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> Ijahman - Yes the old racist adage for Majority Rule in Africa is actually ”One man - One vote - ONCE”.

Funny how those old jokes become reality time after time in Africa thanks to creatures like Mugabe.

Indeed, I agree - Zim needs peace keeping intervention more now than it never has in its history.  I don’t believe for one minute that Mugabe ever actually WON one single election fairly and squarely during his reign.  Now is the time to teach him a lesson.  I can recall the rife intimidation and duress he turned on the rural Zimbabweans prior to winning that first election in 1980 - even though many would decry that.

I also remember what living through a terrorist war was like.  Liberator or not - Mugabe has ALWAYS been a terrorist, exercising extreme fear against white and black alike to get his way, all the while pretending to be a statesman.

The leopard NEVER changes its spots.

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]]> By: Ijahman http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/957#comment-222618 Ijahman Wed, 14 May 2008 16:54:56 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=957#comment-222618 Editor, tell me something .Was it that bad under Ian Smith. I didnt know  one man one vote meant 'vote Mugabe only'. I am sure many didnt know it was about him and not Zimbabwe.Through you Mr Editor I humbly appeal to the UN to intervene. UN  must stop 'THE KILLING FIELDS ' Khamer Rouge or the Rwandan style genocide . 'Being concerned' with the unfolding tragedy in Zimbabwe is not enough.Practical action is what is needed to save Zimbabweans from their vampire government.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('222618','Ijahman'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('222618','Ijahman','Editor, tell me something .Was it that bad under Ian Smith. I didnt know  one man one vote meant \'vote Mugabe only\'. I am sure many didnt know it was about him and not Zimbabwe.Through you Mr Editor I humbly appeal to the UN to intervene. UN  must stop \'THE KILLING FIELDS \' Khamer Rouge or the Rwandan style genocide . \'Being concerned\' with the unfolding tragedy in Zimbabwe is not enough.Practical action is what is needed to save Zimbabweans from their vampire government.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> Editor, tell me something .Was it that bad under Ian Smith. I didnt know  one man one vote meant ‘vote Mugabe only’. I am sure many didnt know it was about him and not Zimbabwe.Through you Mr Editor I humbly appeal to the UN to intervene. UN  must stop ‘THE KILLING FIELDS ’ Khamer Rouge or the Rwandan style genocide . ‘Being concerned’ with the unfolding tragedy in Zimbabwe is not enough.Practical action is what is needed to save Zimbabweans from their vampire government.
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]]> By: Erin http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/957#comment-222556 Erin Wed, 14 May 2008 13:12:33 +0000 http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/?p=957#comment-222556 I am so sorry for the Rogers family. How can people treat other people like this???? When will the crazyiness stop? My thoughts go to the Rogers - know that lots of people around the world are thinking about you and trying to influence our own governments to take a real stand against Mugabe.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('222556','Erin'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> --- <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('222556','Erin','I am so sorry for the Rogers family. How can people treat other people like this???? When will the crazyiness stop? My thoughts go to the Rogers - know that lots of people around the world are thinking about you and trying to influence our own governments to take a real stand against Mugabe.'); return false;">Quote from this comment</a></div> I am so sorry for the Rogers family. How can people treat other people like this???? When will the crazyiness stop? My thoughts go to the Rogers - know that lots of people around the world are thinking about you and trying to influence our own governments to take a real stand against Mugabe.
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